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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 1 5 January 1998
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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HERE WE GO AGAIN!
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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The New Year starts with a LARGE Issue! .................. 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
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Comments on the 1452 Snooze Editorial .................... 2
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FidoNews also available here ............................. 2
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Announcing ARGUS FidoNet to Internet software ............ 3
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FidoNet explained for Internet folks ..................... 4
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Needs MajorBBS info ...................................... 5
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Comments to News Vol.14, No 52 ........................... 5
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 7
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Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator Election List of Candidates .. 7
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ZEC Election Questionnaire sent .......................... 8
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Candidate questionnaire - Intro .......................... 10
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John Glinski questionnaire ............................... 10
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Mike Luther's questionnaire .............................. 12
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David Calafrancesco questionnaire ........................ 23
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Jim Balcom questionnaire ................................. 27
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Retrofitting & Updating Conference Naming Conventions .... 30
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4. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 33
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 002 ...... 33
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5. ECHOING .................................................. 34
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec] ........... 34
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6. NOTICES .................................................. 36
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Future History ........................................... 36
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And more!
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 1 5 Jan 1998
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EDITORIAL
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The ZEC Election process is underway in Zone 1 and there are several
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articles in this Issue pertaining to that effort.
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The Article Specifications [ARTSPEC] for FidoNews were updated for
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1998 and hatched out last week. If you didn't get a copy via your
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regular FidoNews file distribution, check upstream to see where it
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went. You can always file-request it [ARTSPEC] from this system or
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download it from any of the sources listed in the Masthead at the end
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of every edition. The only change was the downsizing of the number of
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FidoNet Nodes from over 30,000 to over 20,000.
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If you got a new Internet-capable computer this past holiday season,
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don't forget all the Internettable FidoNet stuff and places to visit
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which are listed in the Masthead. [grin]
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On with 1998!
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C.B.
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Comments on the 1452 Snooze Editorial
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by Gordon Malone 1:261/1195, g.malone@ix.netcom.com
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Season Greets Chris!
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I just wanted to take a few minutes to comment on your editorial from
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the 1452 edition of the snooze;
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"Where are we a year later?"
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If no one wants to get the required vote together, I'll be the
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International Coordinator... :) There NEEDS to be a leader. We've been
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going nowhere fast for far too long.
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The Nodelist... You've got to be kidding. Why not? There are tens
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of folks who could do that job right here in Net261. We need to get
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rid of the "dead wood", don't we.
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Why hang on??? All of the above offerings listed in your commentary
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and then some. ;)
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Continued credit and KUDO's go deservedly out to Mr. Barchuk for
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attempting to re-invent Fido into what "it could be" if we all gave
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half a hoot and put our though, inventiveness and heart where our
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mouths are.
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Balance... Naaa. Too many folks complain and not enough folks give
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enough of a damn to do anything. Sad, ain't it. Imagine what we
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could be if everyone who joined, contributed and participated...
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Really sad.
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If folks aren't going to participate, why get involved? If you're
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not part of the solution...
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Cheers!
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Gordo
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Reply-To: <mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com>
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From: MBelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com (Martin Belcke)
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To: "Chris Baker" <cbaker84@digital.net>
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Subject: Fidonews
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 17:07:16 -0600
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Chris,
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I have made available every single issue of Fidonews, since the
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beginning issue, as well as yearly archives, all via FTP. They are
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 3 5 Jan 1998
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organized as follows:
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FIDO1.ZIP (All of the issues for Volume 1) Replace the number with
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the number or letter of the volume as it appears in the FNEWSxxx.ZIP
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format. Current would be FIDOE.ZIP
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Each issue is also available, so if someone only needs a specific
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issue, they can get that issue as well. There is an index file called
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00_index.txt that is a complete list of all issues by name, volume and
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issue, and date of issue.
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All of this is available via anonymous ftp at ftp.irvbbs.com
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The name of the directory is fidonews (can't figure out why I
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thought of using that name - grin )
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If you would like to add a link to the Fidonews web page, feel free to
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do so.
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--Martin--
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 08:39:01 -0800
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To: cbaker84@digital.net
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From: "Damien Sam" <webmaster@mindsedge.com>
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Subject: Mailed From FidoNews Homepage
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As I read the FidoNews articles, I am constantly reminded of the
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fact by other submitted articles that Fidonet is a dying breed due to
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the inception of the Internet.
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There have been kudos granted out to systems such as ours that offer
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Fidonet Backbone and Filebone feeds to the rest of the world using
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usually FTP server access and sometimes e-mail file attaches, although
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the latter would not be efficient due to the size of mail packets
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and/or files that are passed down the links.
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What had occurred was a sort of hybrid mating of Fidonet to the
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Internet, however, this form of mail transport still required some
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main system that operated servers, and then would have to configure
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various "secure" ftp sessions to allow the attainment of mail and
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files.
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Although efficient, this still seemed to be much work for the
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individuals who offered this service. What was required was a more
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efficient method of transport and a better "marriage" of Fidonet to
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the Internet.
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One specific individual/company (Max Masyutin/Ritlabs)
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http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ , has produced a piece of software that
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seems to have made the mark! The program is a front end mailer called
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ARGUS which has built in TCP/IP support! Although at this moment in
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time, it is only available in Win95 and NT flavors! (Please no
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tossing of cookies).
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Zone 2, and more specifically Russia, has jumped the gun in
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implementing new flags to facilitate this new form of technology. The
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flags in question are and have been listed in previous editions of the
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 4 5 Jan 1998
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Fidonews; RAW,IFC,BND,TEL,VMP and a few other variants, but more
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importantly, "BND" being as the focal point for this new wave of
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technology. On the outset, ARGUS is just another Binkley type mailer,
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but within it's inner workings lies some new form of technology.
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Specifically, the ability to use a TCP/IP connection and allow the
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"Re-mapping" of a normal Fidonet Node Number to an Internet IP
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address.
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So rather than say dialling up a Long Distance node via standard
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phone lines, the mailer in effect calls up the TCP/IP address and in
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normal fashion, transfers all mail packets and files to the remote
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node, only via the Internet, thereby saving the cost of Long Distance
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charges...
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This has definitely made our lives here much easier, as we are now
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connected up to the UK, and Russia, and a few nodes across ZONE 1 and
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a pending node in Indonesia, and we are transferring mail and files
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with ease using this mailer. No need to setup the secured ftp site,
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and all that must go with this task, just the usual setup under the
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mail tosser and the mailer itself...and the seemingly greatest benefit
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of all this technology, is that our TCP/IP lines are "NEVER BUSY"! We
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may be holding files and a node may connect up via TCP/IP, but that
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does not tie up our phones lines, so a busy signal is never reached,
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another IP node can connect up just as easily and receive their mail
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and so on. In fact, other than bandwidth, the TCP/IP connections are
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almost limitless!
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This is not an advertisement for this company that produces this
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mailer, as another company is on the forefront of using this as well,
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(BEEMAIL), however, this is more of an informative session to all
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those FIDOnet nodes out there that are not aware that this technology
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exists right now, and further more, for those *Cs that render the
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decisions, and perhaps enlighten them on this technology, so that they
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may as well "Push for FLAG CHANGES".
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Yes, we offer Fidonet mail and files over the internet, and yes,
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we offer it via FTP as well, however, with this new mailer, it has
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made life that less complicated for sending and receiving of mail long
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distances without costing anyone a single dime in long distance
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charges, and to be able to offer the mail to those nodes that may not
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be able to currently poll long distance, yet still have an internet
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connection.
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Yours Truly,
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Damien Sam webmaster@mindsedge.com
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1:153/750@fidonet http://www.mindsedge.com/knightmare.html
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1:153/950@fidonet http://www.mindsedge.com/fidonet.html
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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
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By Christopher Baker on Wed Dec 31 21:11:20 1997
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From: Jerry Schwartz @ 1:142/928
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To: Editor @ 1:1/23
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Date: 29 Dec 97 20:32:10
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 5 5 Jan 1998
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Subj: FidoNet pages
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I have an "Intro to Fidonet" type page at
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http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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Jerry Schwartz
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Return-Path: jvo@eagle.net
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:45:08 -0500
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From: "John D. Vo" <jvo@eagle.net>
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Reply-To: jvo@eagle.net
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Organization: Eagle Communication
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To: cbaker84@digital.net
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Subject: Fido
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Damn, you guys are still around? do you know anything about MajorBBS?
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I have one user (yes, one) that really interested in getting Fido-
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news/mail....can you help?
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John Vo
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By Christopher Baker on Sun Jan 04 19:07:36 1998
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From: Felix Mueller @ 2:2480/903
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To: Christopher Baker @ 1:18/14
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Date: 01 Jan 98 20:08:03
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Subj: Comments to News Vol.14, No 52
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Hi Christopher,
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I just received the latest newsletter and read it. There are two
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things, I like to say.
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The easier: In the FidoSoft part, there are stated two old versions.
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BGFax version is 1.70 since a few month. And RAR is 2.02.
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Now the second one. I saw Ward's statistics on the Fidonet and was
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frightened. Zone 1 is growing down with a 21% step in only 6 month.
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Where does Fido in Zone 1 go? I know, that there are a lot of people
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are going to use more the Internet, but I have the feeling, that this
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isn't the right way. This will loose the privacy and personality,
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which we have in Fidonet. So I hope people will find back to Fido.
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regards,
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(----- - - ) Felix Mueller
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( |-- | \/ | ) email: felix@allfix.com
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( | | | ) PGP public key via magic F-PGP
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Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator Election List of Candidates
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by Martin Belcke 1:232/10, 1:232/16, mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com
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To The Members of Fidonet, Zone 1.
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In compliance with a directive from the Zone 1 Coordinator, an
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election for the position of Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator has
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been underway. The first phase, nominations, has concluded.
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The following is the result of the nomination phase....
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************ REPORT OF NOMINATIONS FOR Z1EC *************
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The following candidates have been properly nominated, seconded and
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have accepted for the upcoming Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator election.
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As per the election rules, these are the only candidates eligible
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for election to the position of Z1EC.
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CANDIDATE NOMINATED BY SECONDED BY ACCEPTED
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NODENUMBER NODENUMBER NODENUMBER DECLINED
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Gary Gilmore Keith Wineka Scott Hansen ACCEPTED
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1:2410/400 1:2220/10 1:154/750 12/10/97
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Wayne DeLisle Sr Jack Sargeant Christine LaBonte ACCEPTED
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1:379/33 1:379/12 1:163/384 12/11/97
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David Calafrancesco Robert Vaughn Joe Brown ACCEPTED
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1:2624/0 1:273/304 1:2625/111 12/13/97
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Mike Luther Skeet Masters Jeff Edmonson ACCEPTED
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1:117/3001 1:117/100 1:387/510 12/14/97
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Jeff Smith Bruce Toothman Andrea Santos ACCEPTED
|
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1:282/1031 1:282/1046 1:135/382 12/20/97
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Jim Balcom J Kershaw Ken Thierfelder ACCEPTED
|
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1:109/334 1:2604/514 1:107/460 12/22/97
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John Glinski Bill Bogue Ken Sims ACCEPTED
|
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1:320/237 1:320/240 1:120/523 12/24/97
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Bob Kohl Jim McLaughlin David Randall ACCEPTED
|
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1:102/861 1:2604/104 1:319/10 12/28/97
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One nomination was made by a person who was not a node. This
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nomination was invalidated.
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The following nodes returned a DECLINED message:
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Dave Anderson 1:3619/25
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 8 5 Jan 1998
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Christopher Baker 1:18/14
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Ben Hamilton 1:124/7008
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Ken Tuley 1:18/0
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Jim Smoot 1:395/0
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Darryl Gregorash 1:140/86
|
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Adrian Walker 1:153/751
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************************ END REPORT *************************
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The next phase, campaigning will commence January 1, 1998 and
|
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end January 15, 1998. During this time period, you are encouraged
|
|||
|
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to question candidates on the issues. Flaming will not be tolerated
|
|||
|
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and will be dealt with accordingly by the moderator of Z1_ELECTION.
|
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|
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|
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Please turn on the echo Z1_ELECTION so that you may be able to
|
|||
|
|
participate in the election process. All members of Fidonet, Zone 1
|
|||
|
|
are eligible to participate. During the election process, the
|
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moderatorship of the Z1_ELECTION echo will be handled by Lisa
|
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Gronke (1:105/16) as the ELISTed moderator is also the election
|
|||
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coordinator.
|
|||
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This announcement is respectfully submitted to you, the members of
|
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|
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Fidonet, Zone 1, and serves as the official announcement of the
|
|||
|
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list of candidates for Fidonet Zone 1 Echomail Coordinator. Thank
|
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|
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you for your time and look forward to seeing you participate in the
|
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election.
|
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--Martin Belcke--
|
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Election Cordinator, Z1EC election
|
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Fidonet Node 1:232/10
|
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Fidonet Node 1:232/16
|
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primary e-mail mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com
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From: lisa@psg.com (Lisa Gronke)
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Subject: Memo:[candidate questionnaire netmailed]
|
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To: mbelcke@ws02.irvbbs.com
|
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:40:23 -0800 (PST)
|
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Cc: cbaker84@digital.net
|
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|
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|
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I just wrote and crashmailed the following netmail to all eight
|
|||
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candidates.
|
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Msg# From To Subject
|
|||
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-------------------- -------------------- ---------------------------
|
|||
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1675-Lisa Gronke Gary Gilmore Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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1676-Lisa Gronke Wayne DeLisle Sr. Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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1677-Lisa Gronke David Calafranesco Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
|
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1678-Lisa Gronke Mike Luther Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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1679-Lisa Gronke Jeff Smith Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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1680-Lisa Gronke Jim Balcom Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
|
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1681-Lisa Gronke John Glinski Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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1682-Lisa Gronke Bob Kohl Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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|
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[1679 / 1682] Msg.area Net ... NetMail
|
|||
|
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 9 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
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|
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From: Lisa Gronke Pvt Crash
|
|||
|
|
To: Gary Gilmore Msg #1675, Dec-31-97 11:21:56
|
|||
|
|
Dest: Bloom County (1:2410/400) Dearborn Mi
|
|||
|
|
Subject: Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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|
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|
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MSGID: 1:105/61.0 34aa9b54
|
|||
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|
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|
|
I just posted the Z1EC candidate questionnaire in the Z1_ELECTION
|
|||
|
|
echo. I hope you will take this opportunity to respond to these
|
|||
|
|
questions. Please post your reply in the Z1_ELECTION echo (any time
|
|||
|
|
after midnight).
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
I will see that your response to this questionnaire is forwarded to
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews.
|
|||
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|
|
|||
|
|
==================================================
|
|||
|
|
From: Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
To: Candidates Msg #100, Dec-31-97 10:26:58
|
|||
|
|
Subject: Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1998 Z1EC ELECTION -- CANDIDATE QUESTIONNAIRE
|
|||
|
|
--------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
1> What are your qualifications? What FTN positions have you held?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
2> If elected Z1EC, would you continue with other currently held FTN
|
|||
|
|
positions?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
3> Do you foresee any problems with the list of duties for the ZEC
|
|||
|
|
position?
|
|||
|
|
3> Which of those functions do you consider most important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4> How do you feel about Echomail Policy?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
5> Are there any functions not listed in the job description that you
|
|||
|
|
think are important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
6> Do you anticipate any problems working with the Z1C, the RECs, the
|
|||
|
|
EchoList Coordinator, or those who run the major and minor
|
|||
|
|
distribution systems?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
7> What do you think the major echomail problems in the next two years
|
|||
|
|
will be?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
8> With a two year term, Jan 1, 2000 comes on your watch. What role do
|
|||
|
|
you see for the Z1EC at that time?
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
9> Any other comments?
|
|||
|
|
--------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
Z1_ELECTION Moderator Pro Tem
|
|||
|
|
FidoNet: 1:105/16
|
|||
|
|
Internet: lisa@psg.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 10 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Z1EC Election (a candidate questionnaire)
|
|||
|
|
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/16
|
|||
|
|
lisa@psg.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was asked to moderate the Z1_ELECTION echo during the Z1EC election,
|
|||
|
|
because the regular moderator, Martin Belcke, was serving as Election
|
|||
|
|
Coordinator. My candidate questionnaire (below) is adapted from one
|
|||
|
|
used in the 1991 Z1EC election. The Z1EC "job description" that it
|
|||
|
|
refers to was published in FIDO1449.NWS. I will be forwarding the
|
|||
|
|
candidate replies to FidoNews as they are received.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Two other Z1_ELECTION participants have also addressed lists of
|
|||
|
|
questions to the candidates, David Hallford [1:10/2] & Dale Simmons
|
|||
|
|
[1:202/1100], and a number of good single questions have been posed.
|
|||
|
|
Participate in the Z1_ELECTION yourself, or ask your NEC to keep your
|
|||
|
|
Net informed.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
* Forwarded from the Z1_ELECTION echo:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
From: Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
To: Candidates Msg #100, Dec-31-97 10:26:58
|
|||
|
|
Subject: Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1998 Z1EC ELECTION -- CANDIDATE QUESTIONNAIRE
|
|||
|
|
--------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
1> What are your qualifications? What FTN positions have you held?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2> If elected Z1EC, would you continue with other currently held FTN
|
|||
|
|
positions?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3> Do you foresee any problems with the list of duties for the ZEC
|
|||
|
|
position? Which of those functions do you consider most important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4> How do you feel about Echomail Policy?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
5> Are there any functions not listed in the job description that you
|
|||
|
|
think are important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
6> Do you anticipate any problems working with the Z1C, the RECs, the
|
|||
|
|
EchoList Coordinator, or those who run the major and minor
|
|||
|
|
distribution systems?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
7> What do you think the major echomail problems in the next two years
|
|||
|
|
will be?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
8> With a two year term, Jan 1, 2000 comes on your watch. What role do
|
|||
|
|
you see for the Z1EC at that time?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
9> Any other comments?
|
|||
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Forwarded from the Z1_ELECTION echo by Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
From: John Glinski
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 11 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
To: Lisa Gronke Msg #70, Jan-01-98 20:15:00
|
|||
|
|
Subject: Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 1> What are your qualifications? What FTN positions have you held?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Currently in Fido: HC & N320EC
|
|||
|
|
" OtherNets: ZC & ZEC for USnetMail(Zone 587) {Nodes: 60}
|
|||
|
|
ZEC for ScifiNet(Zone 102) {Nodes: 56} Several
|
|||
|
|
Moderator/Host positions
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 2> If elected Z1EC, would you continue with other currently held ->
|
|||
|
|
FTN positions?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I would maintain my HC status but would request an election for
|
|||
|
|
N320EC commence to find a successor.
|
|||
|
|
My OtherNet positions require little time and would not interfere
|
|||
|
|
with my ZEC functions.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 3> Do you foresee any problems with the list of duties for the ZEC
|
|||
|
|
-> position? Which of those functions do you consider most important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I find no problem with the approved list of ZEC duties. I cannot
|
|||
|
|
state that any one function is most important. Importance of a
|
|||
|
|
function is determined at that point in time. Mediation may be very
|
|||
|
|
important at one time but not at others. The EchoPol initiative is
|
|||
|
|
very important IF done correctly & written properly.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 4> How do you feel about Echomail Policy?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
My participation in FIDOECHOPOL since its addition to NAB should
|
|||
|
|
speak for itself. For those that do not know me, I believe in
|
|||
|
|
EchoPol, but with restrictions. EchoPol cannot set standards for
|
|||
|
|
Moderators nor impose "membership" requirements on them. Both of
|
|||
|
|
these ideas were discussed in FIDOECHOPOL. EchoPol must be written to
|
|||
|
|
create "standards" without utilizing "police" power tactics for
|
|||
|
|
"enforcement". I know these are general statements but I truly
|
|||
|
|
believe that an EchoPol could be a positive document that in fact
|
|||
|
|
could prevent past echomail abuses and power plays. For example,
|
|||
|
|
EchoPol could establish that *EC must be elected and establish the
|
|||
|
|
Length of Service. This would have a positive effect.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 5> Are there any functions not listed in the job description that
|
|||
|
|
-> you think are important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The listed functions are wide sweeping and until a properly
|
|||
|
|
ratified EchoPol is established I believe they are sufficient.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 6> Do you anticipate any problems working with the Z1C, the RECs,
|
|||
|
|
-> the EchoList Coordinator, or those who run the major and minor
|
|||
|
|
-> distribution systems?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 12 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Hopefully not, at present I have no individuals in the *C, *EC, or
|
|||
|
|
moderator positions that would in any way have a negative disposition
|
|||
|
|
towards me.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 7> What do you think the major echomail problems in the next two ->
|
|||
|
|
years will be?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1) NAB, a decision must be made to determine its status in
|
|||
|
|
relation to Zone 1 FidoNet.
|
|||
|
|
2) Internet: An on-going effect to utilize its technology to
|
|||
|
|
further FidoNet. Should be addressed in the Technology section of
|
|||
|
|
EchoPol.
|
|||
|
|
3) Moderators, are they "god" of their echo or not? Could be
|
|||
|
|
addressed in EchoPol.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 8> With a two year term, Jan 1, 2000 comes on your watch. What
|
|||
|
|
-> role do you see for the Z1EC at that time?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Hopefully we will still have echomail distribution. :-) We need
|
|||
|
|
to really address mailer/tosser and even BBS software ability to
|
|||
|
|
handle echomail at the turn of the millennium.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-> 9> Any other comments?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
We need to attempt to make FidoNet more friendly and supportive if
|
|||
|
|
we are to have any chance of halting the shrinking membership. Yes,
|
|||
|
|
this is a hobby, and its suppose to be fun. :-) At the same time we
|
|||
|
|
need to support/assist each other, that is something that the Inet
|
|||
|
|
lacks. Inet is all too often cold & impersonal and filled with an
|
|||
|
|
excessive amount of "junk" in its UseNet conferences.
|
|||
|
|
I live by a very simple philosophy when I joined FidoNet and any
|
|||
|
|
OtherNet, "I assist my uplink & support my downlink." Period.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Thank you for taking the time to read this and I would be greatly
|
|||
|
|
honored to serve you as Z1EC.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
John Glinski
|
|||
|
|
SysOp: Tiger's Lair BBS, Middletown CT
|
|||
|
|
Fido: 1:320/237
|
|||
|
|
Inet: john.glinski@tigers-lair.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
--- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0553
|
|||
|
|
* Origin: Tiger's Lair *Middletown,CT* *860-347-7510* (1:320/237)
|
|||
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Forwarded from the Z1_ELECTION echo by Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
From: Mike Luther
|
|||
|
|
To: All Msg #82, Jan-02-98 06:28:44
|
|||
|
|
Subject: Answer to Lisa's Questions
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 13 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In a message to candidates on Dec-31-97 at 10:26:58 Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
asked:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1> a.) What are your qualifications?
|
|||
|
|
b.) What FTN positions have you held?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer 1b:
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
I have not held an FTN position - that actually may be in my favor,
|
|||
|
|
as I get to make all brand new enemies! Chuckle... I am NC of Net
|
|||
|
|
117.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Answer 1a:
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
As to my qualifications, you'll either read this long post if you
|
|||
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really want to know, or else - you'll toggle on! :)
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Greetings from Central Texas and Mikey!
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I'm a Fido SysOp of more than ten years. Node 1:117/3000 was first
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assigned to me by Paul Sittler when Net 117 in College Station was
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bigger, for a short time, than Net 106 in Houston! I still have a
|
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printed doc copy and original disk of Tom Jennings' Fido BBS program,
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though it was replaced soon with the original OPUS program. Both my
|
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Heathkit H89, serial #699, and the early Z100 that ran 1:117/3000 are
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still here, with software on which they were retired! They still run.
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Ruth Grove ex-NC117, still has my borrowed FidoNet 117 YooHoo 2/U2
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tee shirt, so OPIE isn't lonely, I guess. :)
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Fido, for me, has always been trying to learn things Fido offers and
|
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putting together unique ways to use them. I'm a management,
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programming, hardware and communications system person. Paid my own
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way twice through Texas A&M University, along with a Wife and four
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Kids, plus almost a full degree for her at the same time. That came
|
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from telecommunications engineering. My Novice license in ham radio
|
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in 1952 became an Extra Class in 1953 at age 14. I work mostly HF CW,
|
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some 2 Meters and am competition oriented. As W5WQN, I've placed
|
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repeatedly in the top ten single-band entries in the USA in the ARRL
|
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CW DX contest, the ARRL Sweepstakes and the CQ WW. I frequently do
|
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not send in scores because year after year the ranks don't change
|
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much. Passing around a coveted piece of paper is more important to me
|
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than having them over and over again..
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That should tell you something about what you can expect of me here.
|
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I have an English degree and an MBA in corporate planning from Texas
|
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A&M University and a graduate minor in Sociology, earned where my
|
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Dad, may he rest in peace, was head of the Math Department and made a
|
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heck of a lot of enemies of folks whom didn't want to learn the math.
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Incidentally, Mikey is still known at the math department for being
|
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the kid that said, "But I don't want to do it that way!"
|
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That should tell you something else about what you can expect of me
|
|||
|
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here.
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 14 5 Jan 1998
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Ham radio became a Commercial First Phone and a quite rare Commercial
|
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First Telegraph licenses in sea service for the Oceanography
|
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Department at Texas A&M - while still going to school in chunks. On
|
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the way through I got to help build the first weather radar sets ever
|
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built, then worked on the first color weather radar sets ever built,
|
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and also the forerunner for what is now the Ryan Stormscope for
|
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aviation and your nightly lightning strike display on TV. I got to
|
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build much of the hardware for some of the first computer modeling of
|
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the atmosphere ever done. At sea, I engineered the first long
|
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distance oceanographic seismic runs on single sideband data circuits
|
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ever shot and some of the first remote sensing RF-linked
|
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oceanographic telemetry work ever done. Finally, during the MBA work,
|
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I got to do instrumentation and electronics for the Mach 40 plasma
|
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|
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lab wind tunnel at Texas A&M where some of the Mariner Mars probe re-
|
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|
|
entry atmospheric research was done! No, I didn't make it into
|
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|
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computer science back then, but I did get a license to learn out of
|
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|
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all this.
|
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|
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That should tell you something else about what you can expect of me
|
|||
|
|
here.
|
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|
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What expanded into my Narte Senior Telecommunications Engineering
|
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|
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ticket in six professional specialties, launched me into the
|
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|
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business of aviation radio and - flying! That turned into the Chief
|
|||
|
|
Pilot's position at the ROTC flight training school at Texas A&M
|
|||
|
|
during the Viet Nam war. It opened the door to an executive position
|
|||
|
|
with two manufacturing firms that were highly aviation oriented. I
|
|||
|
|
have a substantial number of hours in light twins, much in *VERY*
|
|||
|
|
heavy solid IFR weather operations - flown by hand. When you have to
|
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|
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balance running the money around the sky, covering the payroll,
|
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|
|
keeping up with up to 200 people in the plant as a CEO and answering
|
|||
|
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the bank call every day; as a pilot, you learn to look into things
|
|||
|
|
and problems from the TOP DOWN, while realizing that the MAJORITY can
|
|||
|
|
whip up on you if you make too many errors. You HAVE to do a good job
|
|||
|
|
with what the majority wishes done or your airplane
|
|||
|
|
doesn't come home one dark and stormy night.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
That should tell you something else about what you can expect of me
|
|||
|
|
here.
|
|||
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|
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|
|
I've earned every one of my 58 year old gray hairs still left on my
|
|||
|
|
head.
|
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|
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|
|
That should tell you something else about what you can expect of me
|
|||
|
|
here.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
If you think airline food is bad, try franchise food for lunch every
|
|||
|
|
day of the week hand-flying a Beech Baron back from squirreling money
|
|||
|
|
somewhere that IRS won't levy, for three years, to survive. You do
|
|||
|
|
what you have to.
|
|||
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|
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|
|
Our product in one operation is in every State in the United States,
|
|||
|
|
every province of Canada, Alaska, Mexico and now, to my knowledge 28
|
|||
|
|
countries on five continents. Twice I've built a National marketing
|
|||
|
|
operation. All the while, we were this Nation's test case for
|
|||
|
|
Manufacturer's Excise Tax for our product, over a claimed $6,000,000
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 15 5 Jan 1998
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
in, "Taxes due." They were not; they never were. Everything that
|
|||
|
|
happened to us for 18 years it took to break that claim - properly -
|
|||
|
|
*TWICE* - in Federal court, was done improperly by the "Claimant."
|
|||
|
|
There is a right way and a wrong way about going about taking care of
|
|||
|
|
problems. You never win, but, you do. The complete law on Excise tax
|
|||
|
|
over the issue was re-written to cover what was unjust about the go
|
|||
|
|
around. We will never be #1, but..
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That should tell you something else about what you can expect of me
|
|||
|
|
here.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
For years, I've operated a FidoNet Private Node that has, in the
|
|||
|
|
opinion of almost all those that have dealt with the issue, been
|
|||
|
|
supportive of both Fido system-wide and VERY much, our local Net 117.
|
|||
|
|
It offers some unique public service emergency gateway access between
|
|||
|
|
land-line and direct air access. That has gained Fido some very
|
|||
|
|
important notice by ARRL and others as a method that could be used
|
|||
|
|
for emergency traffic handling for thousands of needed public service
|
|||
|
|
messages in time of a real emergency. Few FidoNet people, I think,
|
|||
|
|
really understand how closely the ham radio crew and the FidoNet crew
|
|||
|
|
are to each other. Over the years, the interface is more than just a
|
|||
|
|
coincidence. As a programmer and systems-level wanna-bee (aren't we
|
|||
|
|
all?), I rightly or wrongly chose Opie as an actual embedded portion
|
|||
|
|
of some of the code. That's why he is still around, but his time is
|
|||
|
|
coming. You will note that 1:117/3001 is a public node and will soon
|
|||
|
|
host Net 117 - it's being moved to BINK/MAX, FAM/2, OS/2's server
|
|||
|
|
setup and more, as I learn how.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
There is always something new and different, some better way to
|
|||
|
|
operate a system, if you really want to learn about it. All it takes
|
|||
|
|
is being willing to take the risk to gain a reward which justifies
|
|||
|
|
the risk. All it takes is the desire to stand up for the right
|
|||
|
|
technical and social answers for the good of the group and not be
|
|||
|
|
beholdin to any one segment. Shakespeare said it well, "Neither
|
|||
|
|
borrower nor lender be, for borrowing oft dulls the edge of
|
|||
|
|
husbandry." I am not a puppet of ANYONE in Fido, nor do I have the
|
|||
|
|
slightest wish to be a puppet master. I only wish to server, pun
|
|||
|
|
intended.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That should tell you something else about what you can expect of me
|
|||
|
|
here. I think that the chance to look at the Z1EC slot and upper
|
|||
|
|
management section of Fido is worth the risk to run.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1.) I think there is a future for Fido if we act quickly to focus
|
|||
|
|
our strengths more vertically as a group, targeting our
|
|||
|
|
"marketing", so to speak, on the sysop here mostly because he
|
|||
|
|
or she wants to be a mini-IP, if you will.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2.) I think local interest by even just a few dedicated users that
|
|||
|
|
interact with a local sysop, much like gossiping over the
|
|||
|
|
backyard fence, will keep Fido here in even heavily trafficked
|
|||
|
|
Internet areas.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3.) I think that there is PLENTY of room for Fido in less developed
|
|||
|
|
parts of the world and though I've never been to very many of
|
|||
|
|
them, I have been to some. I do understand the technical
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 16 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
problems of bringing full level telecommunications to those
|
|||
|
|
areas.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4.) Although P4 does regulate Fido, I have *NO* problem in working
|
|||
|
|
with it even as it stands, in bringing forward the final echo
|
|||
|
|
organization that must be done for what was never finished with
|
|||
|
|
P4. The job can be accomplished - if it is organized well.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
5.) I think there is room for both the control from assignment and
|
|||
|
|
elected influence.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I'm neither pro-P5 nor anti-P4 in all of this. I am, hopefully, a
|
|||
|
|
good choice for an ADMINISTRATOR and really, simply a COORDINATOR for
|
|||
|
|
what should happen in the echo medium we have here. Heck, the chair
|
|||
|
|
doesn't even vote on a committee, unless actually needed, folks! I
|
|||
|
|
couldn't care less about any power trip here - just believe that I
|
|||
|
|
can make a difference in Fido and can help move it forward into the
|
|||
|
|
future.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I ask your support to let me try to simply chair this group that
|
|||
|
|
really is the technical nuts and bolts of Fido, nothing more.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2> If elected Z1EC, would you continue with other currently held FTN
|
|||
|
|
positions?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer 2:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
P4 says:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
"Coordinators are encouraged to limit the number of FidoNet
|
|||
|
|
functions they perform. A coordinator who holds two different
|
|||
|
|
positions compromises the appeal process. For example, if the
|
|||
|
|
Network Coordinator is also the Regional Coordinator, sysops in
|
|||
|
|
that network are denied one level of appeal."
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3> a.) Do you foresee any problems with the list of duties for the
|
|||
|
|
ZEC position?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I've added the (1) as in Z1EC in a few places where I think it
|
|||
|
|
was left out, but maybe that's an error! :)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
AT THE PLEASURE OF THE Z1C, THE DUTIES OF THE Z1EC SHALL BE:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1) Coordination between the Z1 distribution systems
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > (See job description for Mule later on.) :)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
I'm old enough to recall the old
|
|||
|
|
"20 Mule Team Borax" boxes...
|
|||
|
|
I will be one of the mules... :)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
2) Coordination of the RECC and with the Z1 RECs.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
The Z(1)EC shall be the chairperson of the RECC. He shall
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 17 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
put forth ideas to and/or moderate the discussion of
|
|||
|
|
ideas brought before the RECC.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Answer - > That's the general format in most committees,
|
|||
|
|
I've never had a problem with that.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
He shall also act as a tie breaker in the event of a tie
|
|||
|
|
vote. The RECC may overturn a Z(1)EC proposed action/idea
|
|||
|
|
with a 2/3rds majority of the RECC.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > That's the general format in most committees,
|
|||
|
|
I've never had a problem with that. More
|
|||
|
|
specifically, it is my rule as Chair on all
|
|||
|
|
committees on which I've served, that the
|
|||
|
|
Chair does *NOT* vote, unless to break a tie.
|
|||
|
|
The Chair is, technically, assumed to be <FOR>
|
|||
|
|
the matter at hand, but not - of record.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If the RECC concludes that the Z(1)EC is not active,
|
|||
|
|
ineffective in his/her job or is just not taking care
|
|||
|
|
his/her responsibilities; they may take a vote of
|
|||
|
|
no-confidence. If the vote of no-confidence passes with
|
|||
|
|
a 2/3rds majority, the RECC will refer this issue to
|
|||
|
|
the ZC for mediation or action as the Z1C sees fit
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > That's the general format in most committees,
|
|||
|
|
I've never had a problem with that.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
On the same basis, the Z(1)EC shall be allowed to take issue
|
|||
|
|
with RECs that are not participating and/or doing their
|
|||
|
|
job; by taking the matter up with both the host RC
|
|||
|
|
of the RECs hosting region and the Z1C for mediation or
|
|||
|
|
action as the Z1C sees fit. These two actions shall NOT
|
|||
|
|
be taken lightly without all due consideration of possible
|
|||
|
|
extenuating circumstances.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > That's the general format in most committees,
|
|||
|
|
I've never had a problem with that.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3) Coordination with the other ZECs.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > I foresee that problems will exist in the future
|
|||
|
|
in that the "culture" of FidoNet is changing
|
|||
|
|
markedly. Technology is molding FidoNet into
|
|||
|
|
a far different dog than it was. You have to
|
|||
|
|
understand language is culture and the reverse
|
|||
|
|
is also true! It wasn't just that FidoNet was
|
|||
|
|
'English', the culture of it was also 'English',
|
|||
|
|
at first. The 'English' way of doing things
|
|||
|
|
also suited it's growth needs quite well.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNet once 'needed' that just to be able to
|
|||
|
|
grow. Now, there are many places in the world
|
|||
|
|
where the 'English' way of doing things is
|
|||
|
|
losing leverage because technology is empowering
|
|||
|
|
even an average participant in ways that make
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 18 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
it possible to emplace other cultures quite
|
|||
|
|
readily - if you please. That may not be good.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Sidebar - The ICAO standard 'culture' is English.
|
|||
|
|
Noticed what I think is a significant rise in
|
|||
|
|
major international airline accidents, lately?
|
|||
|
|
Think about this whole language - culture deal
|
|||
|
|
a minute or two and that ....
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
We will see similar 'accidents' come full force in
|
|||
|
|
the next two years here, in Fido, in my opinion.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Curiously - I also feel that the organization,
|
|||
|
|
to survive - still has to have a 'standard'
|
|||
|
|
culture, if that's what we mean here!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Thus - brought full face-forward by the issues
|
|||
|
|
involving echomail - our major job is to actually
|
|||
|
|
re-define our 'Fido Culture' as something quite
|
|||
|
|
different than we currently see..
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Be careful. That can be taken more than
|
|||
|
|
one way... :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
You have to watch Mikey's use of words.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I make a coordinated effort at all things. :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
It is my opinion that is one reason Z1C embarked
|
|||
|
|
on letting this process loose...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Z2 is watching this one closely, I opine.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I think I can speak culture well enough
|
|||
|
|
to help Fido survive.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4) Central repository of information for the various Z1
|
|||
|
|
distribution systems.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > The Z1EC serves at the pleasure of the Z1C.
|
|||
|
|
However, please note that back in the '20's
|
|||
|
|
in the US'nA, the price of steel magically
|
|||
|
|
rose and rose and rose despite 'guvmint
|
|||
|
|
screaming - Later we found out Andrew
|
|||
|
|
Carnegie was pulling on his left ear lobe too
|
|||
|
|
often. That old encrypted mail issue.,, :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In order to survive it appears we might need
|
|||
|
|
a large 2 X 4... Z1C will have to issue it
|
|||
|
|
to minimize inter-distribution system fighting.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
5) Mediation of Zone 1 echomail issues.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > Mediation means exactly what it says;
|
|||
|
|
it is often confused with the word
|
|||
|
|
arbitration. Note the difference.
|
|||
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 19 5 Jan 1998
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You may ask those here that know me
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if I know that difference. I think
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they will say I do; even though I
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didn't ask to marry them at all! :)
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In a volunteer organization the equal
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and opposite force to, "You will" is;
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"I quit."
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"Patience is a virtue."
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"The constant dripping of water wears
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away stone."
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I will do everything I can to avoid
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arbitration. I prefer that people
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learn to exist together rather than
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have to be told to leave.
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6) Upper level mediation between Moderators, Fidonet
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distribution systems on related echomail issues.
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Answer - > I foresee that problems will exist in the
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future here because cost-push mail offering
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will suffer a MUCH heavier assault from
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demand-pull enabled lower-level sysops, whom
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will have terribly more effective systems,
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for peanuts in price, in the near future.
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Burnham Woods will march on Dunkirk Castle
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in the reign of this Z1EC, if my guess in
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correct.
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'Get this off my proposed back' - Z1C...
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Yes Sir, I'll do my best, Sir. :)
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7) Coordination with the Echolist Keeper.
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Answer - > If 30,000 'nodes' can be listed weekly and
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distributed weekly, so can a 'culturally'
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correct Echolist. It can be done one
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way or another.
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The same type tools that enable Internet
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usegroup selection techniques will not
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only surface here in the next two years,
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they will force a 'standardized' Echolist.
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The list will force its keeper into the open.
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8) Help in the formation and implementation (in conjunction
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with the RECC) of a Zone/Fido-wide Echomail policy. The
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Z(1)EC shall keep the RECC informed of these discussions so
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that the RECs may pass this information down to their
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regional sysops.
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 20 5 Jan 1998
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Answer - > I foresee this to be one of the most important
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things we have to do.
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Help in.. means.. the Chair is charged with
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the responsibility for the organization of
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and laying out of the work format.
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Comment - The only way I have EVER seen any
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committee EVER get anything done was to lay
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out the agenda and work it through/
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When the list is done - it's reported out to
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the boss, Ichi Ban, El Jeffe, El Patrone, Il
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Padrone (Z1C + the SysOps of this Zone) and
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what's done with it after that will be up
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to the decision of the Zone.
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9) Term(s) of no more than 2 years. No limit on number of terms
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Answer - > Survival is doubtful. Crosses himself, looking
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for wallet.
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10) Codify, with the RECC, the procedure for future ZEC elections.
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All future elections are subject to review by the Z1C..
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Answer - > If you don't understand P4, go back and read it
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again. This is *NOT* a democracy. The only
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purpose for any election in FidoNet, that I
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know about, is either defined specifically in
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P4 already, or is for the allowed purpose of
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feeding input to Empire Central.
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"You will." - "I quit." - "So what do we do now?"
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"Find another bank." Mikey, to a VP of the
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First City Bank, Houston, 1976.. having read
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the remark elsewhere before and since.
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Any suggestions that I might have for the
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future elections should be tempered by
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the experiences in this one. I have
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confidence we will learn from our experiences
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in this election. If it needs to be changed,
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I suspect it will be evident. If it works
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well, I suspect that will be evident too.
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11) Provide for an interim Z1EC, should anything happen to
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currently seated Z1EC to prevent him/her from fulfilling
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these duties. The single duty of the interim Z1EC shall be
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to expedient an election and a smooth transition to the
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next Z1EC (should it become necessary). If there are
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problems the interim ZEC shall contact the Z1C for help if
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the problem cannot be resolved within the RECC.
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Answer - > I will.. Boss.
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 21 5 Jan 1998
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Specifically, in a similar manner to the
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fact that there is no ANC, but we've had
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'one' formally in Net 117, I'll, if
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elected, at the outset, determine whom
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was the next ranking candidate in this
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election...
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I'll ask for help.
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You never know how much you needed it until you
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ask.
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The deal you do not investigate is always the deal
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you lose.
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b.) Which of those functions do you consider most important?
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Answer - > Discussing the issue with the Boss, if
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it hasn't been left to me to do. :)
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When a 30 year client of mine bought his first
|
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radio station with private financing arranged
|
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for by the late John Hicks, a short while later
|
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he called him up and asked, "What should I do?"
|
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John replied, "That's what you got the money for.
|
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It's YOUR problem." :)
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4> How do you feel about Echomail Policy?
|
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|
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Answer - > 'Sunfinshed Business. Finish what you started,
|
|||
|
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before asking for more problems. We need to
|
|||
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finish the Policy.
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5> Are there any functions not listed in the job description that
|
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you think are important?
|
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Answer - > Privately.. We are electing a whining rod, which
|
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is OK by me... :)
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I can tell this one.. OK? chuckle..
|
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|
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There is a good Jewish joke. Rabbi Cohen was
|
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|
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killed with Father Flannigan, jointly. Heaven
|
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|
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bound, it got too hard for Father Flannigan to
|
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|
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climb. Cohen invited him to be carried the rest
|
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of the way. Peter looked out at the party
|
|||
|
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approaching the gates. He called out, "Father
|
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Flannigan, so good to see you, park your mule
|
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|
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over there and come on in."
|
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:)
|
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|
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Nice mule.
|
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 22 5 Jan 1998
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6> Do you anticipate any problems working with the Z1C, the RECs,
|
|||
|
|
the EchoList Coordinator, or those who run the major and minor
|
|||
|
|
distribution systems?
|
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|
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Answer - > Of course - ROTFL mule's ears Off!
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Don't worry about the mule - load the wagon.
|
|||
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Mikey the Mule will pull it, 'sbest he can.
|
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7> What do you think the major echomail problems in the next two
|
|||
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years will be?
|
|||
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|
|||
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Answer - > Bandwidth on Demand, which will free many from
|
|||
|
|
the slavery of modem connects to their
|
|||
|
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'provider', whether it be an IP or a BBS,
|
|||
|
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a la FidoNet.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
There are tools coming on line FAST that will
|
|||
|
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GREATLY expand the role of client-server
|
|||
|
|
right down into our beloved Fido's dog dish.
|
|||
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|
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|
|
They will be cheap. They will be effective.
|
|||
|
|
They will literally tear apart the entire door-
|
|||
|
|
concept BBS that we know of today.
|
|||
|
|
Empires will crumble and new ones will arise.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
The problems we face in dealing with echomail
|
|||
|
|
today will be far different and serious when
|
|||
|
|
these tools come on line and Fido assimilates
|
|||
|
|
them, if that happens, which I think it will.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
:(
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
8> With a two year term, Jan 1, 2000 comes on your watch. What role
|
|||
|
|
do you see for the Z1EC at that time?
|
|||
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|
|
|||
|
|
Answer - > Set the date on your system to ten minutes before
|
|||
|
|
midnight after doing a full tape backup for
|
|||
|
|
restore. Watch what happens. Be prepared to
|
|||
|
|
<CTL C> before anything gets out before hand here..
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
chuckle.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Restore when through playing.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Z1EC has to both start a program to ferret out
|
|||
|
|
that mess in here *AND* be prepared to recommend
|
|||
|
|
to the Region and El Patron(s) that we force
|
|||
|
|
the network to do certain things, if needed.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
It is up to the current COMMITTEE to decide on
|
|||
|
|
the specific action to be taken.. :)
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
That will probably mean EchoPol may even have to
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 23 5 Jan 1998
|
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|
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have that in it and proof of compliance to stay
|
|||
|
|
in the NodeList...
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
which will bring HORRIBLE fireworks from
|
|||
|
|
Zx, Zy and Zzzzzz after which we may
|
|||
|
|
all gracefully have a massive CVA and
|
|||
|
|
never wake up.. :(
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Begin a program - top down - to determine Y2K
|
|||
|
|
capabilities here and post that part, at least
|
|||
|
|
to the level of the HUBs, as part of the
|
|||
|
|
directory effort.
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
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9> Any other comments?
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Answer - > PLEASE VOTE. Even if you do not vote for me,
|
|||
|
|
please DO vote. I wish to see Zone 1 pulled
|
|||
|
|
back together as a much less fragmented sort
|
|||
|
|
of group. We can operate with many independents,
|
|||
|
|
but we need to be coordinated. This is your
|
|||
|
|
chance to make your voice heard.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Concentrate on the real job of going forward,
|
|||
|
|
not arguing about little details.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Please understand that there is a huge
|
|||
|
|
difference between engineering and management.
|
|||
|
|
What is needed, in my humble opinion, is
|
|||
|
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a manager in this Z1EC position who can work
|
|||
|
|
with technical people. I believe that I can
|
|||
|
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do this job well, that's why I accepted the
|
|||
|
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chance to represent you all.
|
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|
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Mike @ 117/3001
|
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|
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|
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--- Opus-CBCS 1.73a
|
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|
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* Origin: Ziplog Public Port (1:117/3001.0)
|
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|
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-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
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|
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Forwarded from the Z1_ELECTION echo
|
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|
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From: David Calafrancesco
|
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|
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To: Lisa Gronke Msg #99, Jan-02-98 00:32:28
|
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|
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Subject: Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Lisa Gronke wrote in a message to Candidates:
|
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|
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LG> 1998 Z1EC ELECTION -- CANDIDATE QUESTIONNAIRE
|
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|
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LG> --------------------------------------------------
|
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|
|||
|
|
Lisa, please don't do anything to discourage questions from the other
|
|||
|
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members of FIDO. Perhaps your title should read "Lisa Gronke's Z1EC
|
|||
|
|
candidate questions from previous elections" or something to signify
|
|||
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that the questions are recycled and that they are being asked by you
|
|||
|
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 24 5 Jan 1998
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|
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as a node and not you as the election echo moderator implying that
|
|||
|
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other questions will be out of order.
|
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|
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|
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Thank you for compiling these questions from previous elections and
|
|||
|
|
adjusting them to our circumstances. It should help to compare
|
|||
|
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candidates with what has happened in the past.
|
|||
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|
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|
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LG 1> What are your qualifications? What FTN positions have you
|
|||
|
|
LG 1> held?
|
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|
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|
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I have been a member of FIDO for almost a decade. In that time I have
|
|||
|
|
almost always been a HUB of some sort. I am currently an RHUB in
|
|||
|
|
region 13, as well as NC and NEC of net2624 along with being a feed
|
|||
|
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source for the net. I have always looked at the costs of moving our
|
|||
|
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mail and looked for ways to increase reliability while decreasing
|
|||
|
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costs. I hope to do the same on a zone wide basis. I was briefly
|
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|
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interim R13EC a couple of years ago.
|
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|
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LG 2> If elected Z1EC, would you continue with other currently held
|
|||
|
|
LG 3> FTN positions?
|
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|
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|
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If someone locally was willing to pickup one or both of the local
|
|||
|
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positions I would pass them on. As the local NC/NEC positions have
|
|||
|
|
only taken a few minutes per month I would otherwise keep them as I
|
|||
|
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see no particular conflict. I would consider passing the RHub on to
|
|||
|
|
someone else but again the load is not that big. As a ZEC I would not
|
|||
|
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be expecting to be a ZHub or other major mail mover for the zone, but
|
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|
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instead an interface between the various feed systems and the
|
|||
|
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regions/networks.
|
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|
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|
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LG 3> Do you foresee any problems with the list of duties for the ZEC
|
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|
|
LG 3> position?
|
|||
|
|
LG 3> Which of those functions do you consider most important?
|
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|
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|
|
First off, the "list of duties" you are referring to was hashed out
|
|||
|
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by one of the candidates with some feedback from participants in this
|
|||
|
|
echo among others. As ZEC, I would be working for the ZC. Period. I
|
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also feel it is best to allow the ZEC to define what their job is in
|
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|
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relation to what the ZC expects from them.
|
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|
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|
Did you know there have been over 500 messages with ZEC and DUT in
|
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|
|
the subject in this echo alone? A quick scan finds several revisions,
|
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|
|
not one that is listed as a final revision. I will paste the last
|
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|
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version here so we can be sure we are on the same sheet of music.
|
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{begin paste}
|
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Area : Z1_ELECTION
|
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|
|
Date : Nov 21 '97, 02:41
|
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|
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>From : Bob Kohl, 1:102/861
|
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|
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To : All
|
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|
|
Subj : Re: ZEC duties Rev. 21934575-86721569-35d
|
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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Feel free to crosspost at will:
|
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|
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At the pleasure of the Z1C, the duties for the Z1EC shall be:
|
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 25 5 Jan 1998
|
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|
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|
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1) Coordination between the Z1 echomail distribution systems
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
2) Coordination of the RECC and with the Zone 1 RECs.
|
|||
|
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|
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The ZEC is the chairperson of the RECC. He or she shall bring ideas
|
|||
|
|
to the RECC and moderate the discussion of ideas. He or she shall also
|
|||
|
|
act as a tie breaker in the event of a tie vote. The RECC may overturn
|
|||
|
|
a ZEC proposed action or idea with a 2/3rds vote of the RECC.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
If the RECC concludes that the ZEC is not active, ineffective in his
|
|||
|
|
or her job or not taking care his or her responsibilities per this
|
|||
|
|
list; they may take a vote of no-confidence. If the vote of
|
|||
|
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no-confidence passes with 2/3rds majority, the RECC will refer this
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issue to the Z1C for mediation or action as the Z1C sees fit.
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The ZEC shall be allowed to take issue with RECs that are not
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participating or doing their job, by taking the matter up with the
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host RC of the REC's region and the Z1C for mediation or action.
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These two actions shall NOT be taken lightly without all due
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consideration of possible extenuating circumstances.
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3) Coordination with the other ZECs.
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4) Central repository of information for the various Z1 distribution
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systems.
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5) Mediation of Zone 1 echomail issues/disputes.
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6) Upper level mediation between Moderators, Fidonet distribution
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systems on related echomail issues.
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7) Coordination with the Echolist Keeper.
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8) Help in the formation and implementation of a Zone/Fido-wide
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Echomail policy. The ZEC shall work in conjunction with the RECC
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on this issue, so that the REC's can take this information to
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their respective regions for feedback.
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9) Term(s) of no more than 2 years. No limit on number of terms
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10) Codify, with the RECC, the procedure for future ZEC elections.
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All future elections are subject to review by the Z1C..
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11) Provide for an interim Z1EC, should anything happen to currently
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seated Z1EC to prevent him/her from fulfilling these duties. The
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single duty of the interim Z1EC shall be to expedite an election
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and the smooth transition to the next Z1EC. The interim ZEC shall
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refer to the Z1C for help with problems if the RECC cannot resolve
|
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said issue(s).
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BK
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{end paste}
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LG 4> How do you feel about Echomail Policy?
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 26 5 Jan 1998
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There isn't one. Should there be? If the members of the zone wish to
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have an echo policy I would do my best to see that they have the
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chance to create one. It would be built with their input. I don't see
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there being any particular aura about the title of ZEC that would
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confer special wisdom or power over the rest of the zone. I see the
|
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ZEC as being more a facilitator and interface between the different
|
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parts of the echo distribution system. Those parts being the nodes,
|
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the hubs and moderators. All net/region/zone coordinators of whatever
|
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|
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flavor are servants of their respective area and should be doing what
|
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is in the best interest of the area.
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In summary, I don't 'feel' much of anything for echomail policy.
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LG 5> Are there any functions not listed in the job description that
|
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LG 5> you think are important?
|
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|
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I am sure that my interpretation of the ZEC duty suggestions as
|
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|
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outlined above will differ with others. For example, I interpret #4
|
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|
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as publishing a master list of echos which combines all echo titles
|
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|
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and shows what is available from each distribution system. There is
|
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|
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currently no central source for any node or HUB who is contemplating
|
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|
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a switch to a different feed to know what is available on the other
|
|||
|
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system.
|
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|
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I would also delegate specific jobs if I found the load too heavy. Of
|
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|
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course I would remain responsible for the proper completion of the
|
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|
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job and any deputy would be answerable to me directly.
|
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|
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|
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Another example, I don't consider #8 to mean the ZEC writes the
|
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|
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echomail policy or puts into it what he feels is advantageous to his
|
|||
|
|
faction. I would interpret that to mean assist in the mechanics of
|
|||
|
|
setting up whatever mechanism the people of Zone 1 want to assist
|
|||
|
|
them in creating an echo policy, should they feel an echo policy is
|
|||
|
|
needed.
|
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|
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|
|
I would also ensure that I have a drop dead deputy available to step
|
|||
|
|
in and act on my behalf should something happen.
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|
LG 6> Do you anticipate any problems working with the Z1C, the
|
|||
|
|
LG 6> RECs, the EchoList Coordinator, or those who run the major
|
|||
|
|
LG 6> and minor distribution systems?
|
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|
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|
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|
|
Nope... So far I don't seem to have pissed off too many people and I
|
|||
|
|
try to be moderate in all things. I dislike fanatics and fanaticism
|
|||
|
|
and am usually content to ignore them until they go away but have
|
|||
|
|
been known to blast with both barrels on occasion.
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|
LG 7> What do you think the major echomail problems in the next two
|
|||
|
|
LG 7> years will be?
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|
Integrating FIDO with new technology to maintain our supremacy in
|
|||
|
|
high signal to noise ratio mass communications. Our content is very
|
|||
|
|
similar to internet mailing lists in that our conferences are usually
|
|||
|
|
topical and spam free yet we use a method similar to newsgroups in
|
|||
|
|
that any node whose HUB receives an echo can link to it instantly.
|
|||
|
|
Helping FIDO to grow and adapt to the changing technology will become
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 27 5 Jan 1998
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
|
more important as time rolls on. Currently the overwhelming majority
|
|||
|
|
of traffic in FIDO is passing around the zone without standard LD
|
|||
|
|
charges.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Zone 1 has an almost 100% saturation of ISPs available and that means
|
|||
|
|
that almost anyone who wishes can move their traffic via the
|
|||
|
|
internet. That spells an end to the strife caused by CRP feeds. For
|
|||
|
|
pennies per day and an FTP account anyone can get darn near anything.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
For years FIDO has had a centralized mail routing system. It
|
|||
|
|
currently flows via the echomail paths. With the increase in
|
|||
|
|
individuals connecting directly to ZHubs class servers mail routing
|
|||
|
|
dynamics are changing. I am not sure if the complexity has increased
|
|||
|
|
or decreased but it seems that reliability is up. It used to be that
|
|||
|
|
hardly anything would arrive on a timely basis if you routed it out
|
|||
|
|
through the net. Now, I am seeing replies back in a few hours from
|
|||
|
|
messages I have sent as routed netmail. Yes, sometimes the various
|
|||
|
|
HUBs get confused as to where someone's mail goes but that is
|
|||
|
|
generally limited to people who have changed feeds recently. Once the
|
|||
|
|
feed is stable, it should remain functional with minimal maintenance.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
LG 8> With a two year term, Jan 1, 2000 comes on your watch. What
|
|||
|
|
LG 8> role do you see for the Z1EC at that time?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Much the same as I see it now. The ZEC is a servant of the zone,
|
|||
|
|
working for the ZC, assisting the regions work with the various
|
|||
|
|
distribution systems and working with the rest of the zones on
|
|||
|
|
interzonal echomail issues. Unless something drastic changes in the
|
|||
|
|
next two years, there will still be nodes, echomail, regions, zones
|
|||
|
|
and distribution systems.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
LG 9> Any other comments?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDO is a hobby for me, it is not a career move. I feel I can make a
|
|||
|
|
decent contribution to the betterment of the zone or I wouldn't have
|
|||
|
|
agreed to run.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
|
|||
|
|
dave@drakkar.mhv.net
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
---
|
|||
|
|
* Origin: Druid's Grove BBS - (914)/876-2237 (1:2624/306)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Forwarded from the Z1_ELECTION echo by Lisa Gronke
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
From: Jim Balcom
|
|||
|
|
To: Lisa Gronke Msg #66, Jan-02-98 19:44:50
|
|||
|
|
Subject: Candidate Questionnaire
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1998 Z1EC ELECTION -- CANDIDATE QUESTIONNAIRE
|
|||
|
|
--------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
1> What are your qualifications? What FTN positions have you held?
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 28 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I was NEC of Net-109 for five years, (one of the larger nets in Zone
|
|||
|
|
1) re-elected to the position annually. I have been REC of Region 13
|
|||
|
|
for 19 months. I have functioned as the major Net-109 echomail hub
|
|||
|
|
for 7 years. I have had RHub status for 3+ years.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2> If elected Z1EC, would you continue with other currently held FTN
|
|||
|
|
positions?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The next REC-13 election is scheduled for the April/May timeframe. I
|
|||
|
|
would not stand for that election. I would probably continue to be a
|
|||
|
|
mail hub. I've always felt that it is important for an *EC to be
|
|||
|
|
active in the mail moving department so that they are aware,
|
|||
|
|
first-hand, of the various problems.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
3> Do you foresee any problems with the list of duties for the ZEC
|
|||
|
|
position?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
No.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Which of those functions do you consider most important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Paragraph 6: Upper level mediation (and, adding in co-ordination)
|
|||
|
|
between Moderators and Echomail Distribution Systems.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
4> How do you feel about Echomail Policy?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I believe that there needs to be an Echomail Policy. I think that
|
|||
|
|
getting one properly approved is going to be similar to trying to
|
|||
|
|
build a snowman in Panama!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As ZEC, it is something that I would keep on the table with the RECC
|
|||
|
|
and that as a group of 10 REC's and the ZEC that we would keep
|
|||
|
|
plugging away on in an attempt to get some progress made.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
5> Are there any functions not listed in the job description that you
|
|||
|
|
think are important?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
No. If there were, I would have provided that input during the
|
|||
|
|
formulation of the description.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
6> Do you anticipate any problems working with the Z1C, the RECs, the
|
|||
|
|
EchoList Coordinator, or those who run the major and minor
|
|||
|
|
distribution systems?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
None at all.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
7> What do you think the major echomail problems in the next two
|
|||
|
|
years will be?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
We are going to see more and more interaction with the Internet. The
|
|||
|
|
present policies, specifications, and procedures were developed in
|
|||
|
|
the '80's. They don't consider the Internet.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 29 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Law enforcement agencies are becoming more computer-literate. There
|
|||
|
|
is more and more public pressure to get 'obscene' information off of
|
|||
|
|
the Internet. The Internet is a hard animal to attack. Fidonet Sysops
|
|||
|
|
are much better defined and much easier to see and find. I think that
|
|||
|
|
Fidonet is going to be subjected to much more scrutiny by law
|
|||
|
|
enforcement agencies as to the content of the traffic they are
|
|||
|
|
carrying and moving, primarily because it's a lot easier to find a
|
|||
|
|
Fidonet Sysop, than it is to find the "Internet". I think that
|
|||
|
|
Fidonet Sysops will be seeing more 'witch-hunts' about the content of
|
|||
|
|
echomail.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
8> With a two year term, Jan 1, 2000 comes on your watch. What role
|
|||
|
|
do you see for the Z1EC at that time?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
That question is not clear to me. On the one hand, it is redundant to
|
|||
|
|
Question 7. If you are referring to the 'Year 2000 Problem', I doubt
|
|||
|
|
that it will have a lasting effect on Fidonet Sysops. We may see some
|
|||
|
|
'interesting' quirks during the first few weeks, particularly with
|
|||
|
|
software that is checking the age of messages, but those should be
|
|||
|
|
able to be dealt with swiftly.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you mean, "What will the Z1EC's job be in January 2000?", I don't
|
|||
|
|
have an answer for that one. I think that in the next two years that
|
|||
|
|
we will see a lot of changes, just as we have seen a lot of changes
|
|||
|
|
over the past 18 years in any two-year segment you want to pick. A
|
|||
|
|
lot is going to depend on the mix of REC's and the thoughts and ideas
|
|||
|
|
that they bring to the RECC table.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
9> Any other comments?
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As ZEC, I would like to see some standardization for the movement of
|
|||
|
|
echomail. The specifications that we are presently working with are
|
|||
|
|
7-15 years old. This, in a technology that vastly changes on a daily
|
|||
|
|
basis. Software authors are pulling their hair out trying to write
|
|||
|
|
software that will work under all imaginable conditions - including
|
|||
|
|
some VERY bizarre conditions that they should not have to be
|
|||
|
|
considering.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Ideally, I would like to see a Fidonet-wide FTSC become VERY active
|
|||
|
|
and to codify some specifications so that all authors would be
|
|||
|
|
singing out of the same hymnbook. Barring that, I believe that it is
|
|||
|
|
possible to formulate a set of technical criteria that all traffic
|
|||
|
|
entering the "Echomail Distribution System in Zone One" has to meet.
|
|||
|
|
This has nothing to do with content or purpose. But, it does mean
|
|||
|
|
that all traffic must be technically correct. Time/date fields
|
|||
|
|
properly formed. A proper Origin Line. A Path line. A MSGID line.
|
|||
|
|
Etc. Major mail movers already know what those problems are and are
|
|||
|
|
trying to protect the distribution systems from damage caused by
|
|||
|
|
those problems. I believe that, in some way, we need to 'officialize'
|
|||
|
|
much of this.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I believe that there is room in the "Echomail Distribution System in
|
|||
|
|
Zone One" for a multitude of distribution systems. I see no reason
|
|||
|
|
why all of them can not work together in a harmonious, co-operative
|
|||
|
|
relationship. As ZEC, I would work diligently toward that end.
|
|||
|
|
Retailers have done this for ages.
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 30 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I see the ZEC in a true co-ordinator role. He depends heavily on
|
|||
|
|
input from the REC's, and moves forward with their ideas, even if he
|
|||
|
|
doesn't fully agree with the majority of them. The future of
|
|||
|
|
Fidonet's echomail is more in the hands of the REC's than in the
|
|||
|
|
hands of the ZEC. But, even more than in the hands of the REC's, is
|
|||
|
|
the work and efforts put forth by the NEC's!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-= Jim Balcom =-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
++ Jim ++
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
--- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#2)
|
|||
|
|
* Origin: Bottomless Pit - balcomj@idkent.com - Alexandria, VA
|
|||
|
|
(1:109/334)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Retrofitting & Updating Conference Naming Conventions
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
12/29/97
|
|||
|
|
Net 261 Local EchoMail & FileBone Naming Convention Proposal
|
|||
|
|
(Maybe even the Entire Network)
|
|||
|
|
by Gordon Malone 1:261/1195, g.malone@ix.netcom.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I originally intended to present this proposal to my local and
|
|||
|
|
Neighboring Nets, 261 and 109. Only after contemplating the
|
|||
|
|
possibilities and benefits did it make sense to offer it to the entire
|
|||
|
|
net as food for thought and hopefully action.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Since joining FidoNet some 8 years ago I noticed that tossers were
|
|||
|
|
incomplete in the way they sort or display listings. Sure, they work
|
|||
|
|
fine by default to sort by name, but not by group. Some authors of
|
|||
|
|
processors have made attempts and some have even had success (Harald
|
|||
|
|
Harms - ALLFIX file processor) in providing a means for displaying
|
|||
|
|
areas by group to facilitate easy maintenance.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Unfortunately, not all tossers of either flavor, mail or file have
|
|||
|
|
adopted this common sense approach as a 'standard' and we're left to
|
|||
|
|
muttle through due to lack of foresight as best we can and Fido as a
|
|||
|
|
whole, is slow to implement forward thinking ideas and concepts that
|
|||
|
|
would foster growth and ease of use or operation. There are MANY
|
|||
|
|
networks now available to join with echoes that certainly duplicate
|
|||
|
|
echo names.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
With that in mind, I'd like to propose that we take steps to improve
|
|||
|
|
and insure two things.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1) An easily identifiable naming convention prefix for the net that
|
|||
|
|
would both make grouping and editing much easier and faster,
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
2) Eliminate the possibility of duplication of conference names
|
|||
|
|
imported and processed from any source.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This could easily be accomplished through the use of a naming PREFIX
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 31 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
policy much like that used by the InterNet. Why shouldn't we adopt
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tried and true solutions? It only makes sense that we use FIDO.261
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as our prefix...
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I'd like to put this suggestion to all of FidoNet and especially our
|
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neighbors in Net109 with whom we share local echoes. Who knows, maybe
|
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it'll spread throughout Fido. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.
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Proposal:
|
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Below is an actual sample of areas in our FIDONET.261 area file
|
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that our NEC just released:
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ADS109 ;ads, including commercial
|
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AUTO109 ;automatic announcements (mainly files)
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AUTO261 Automatic messages OPEN
|
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BALTIMORE-BBS BBS Notices, Ads 1000
|
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BURPNET ;Brewers United For Real Potables
|
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CATS Feline Friends (Local) OPEN
|
|||
|
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COMMUNITY Community Association Stuff 1000
|
|||
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|
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|
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Under the new naming convention they would look like this using the
|
|||
|
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network.net.<areaname> Prefix:
|
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FIDO.109.ADS109
|
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FIDO.109.AUTO109
|
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FIDO.261.AUTO261
|
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FIDO.261.BALTIMORE-BBS
|
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FIDO.261.BURPNET
|
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FIDO.261.CATS
|
|||
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FIDO.261.COMMUNITY
|
|||
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|
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|
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It's real easy to see what area comes from where and there is
|
|||
|
|
little possibility of duplication prohibiting the addition of
|
|||
|
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duplicate echo names from different networks.
|
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|
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|
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Conclusion:
|
|||
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|
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|
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I realize that this would cause some minor disruption during the
|
|||
|
|
renaming period, but the future benefits and ease of operation, I
|
|||
|
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feel, make it well worth the small amount of work involved for us all
|
|||
|
|
to accomplish this. Maybe the MODERATOR conference would be a good
|
|||
|
|
place to discuss a possible self imposed cutoff date which could be
|
|||
|
|
agreed upon to have the ELIST updates submitted by.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Kinda funny when you stop to consider all of the power we have, yet we
|
|||
|
|
don't know how to harness and exploit it like everything else we
|
|||
|
|
devour... Years ago I thought we'd have .WAV or some kind of
|
|||
|
|
compressed voice email conferences with threads going by now... If
|
|||
|
|
only we knew what we were doing. It's scary, or is it just me...?
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
If we're all not working to constantly improve and build on the net,
|
|||
|
|
what's the point? Isn't that what a network of like minded folks is
|
|||
|
|
all about!
|
|||
|
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FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 32 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
As you can see, not only does this naming convention make it
|
|||
|
|
undeniably clear of the echo origins, but editing within *any*
|
|||
|
|
processor system will be universal. Searching and constant referencing
|
|||
|
|
printouts, or jumping between windows would be eliminated when doing
|
|||
|
|
updates. All areas would be displayed in order, together and sorted by
|
|||
|
|
NETWORK.NET.<ECHONAME> regardless of the processor used, as long as
|
|||
|
|
they utilize some sort of sorting method, which most do.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
An added bonus to the two benefits above, AUTOADDING in a myriad of
|
|||
|
|
processors and BBS systems, with more control of defaults will now be
|
|||
|
|
possible, allowing and promoting greater participation and/or
|
|||
|
|
expansion locally.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In closing, I respectfully request that our leadership, software
|
|||
|
|
authors, moderators and potential new echo submitters seriously
|
|||
|
|
consider implementing this proposal, for all of the reasons and
|
|||
|
|
benefits stated above. We can retrofit and bring the net up to speed
|
|||
|
|
if we want to...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
At the risk of sounding 'corny', IMHO it is our duty, if we truly
|
|||
|
|
enjoy and care about this hobby, to do whatever makes sense to build
|
|||
|
|
upon and improve every aspect of the hobby that presents itself...
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Comments Anyone? :)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Cheers!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Gordo
|
|||
|
|
|
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|
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 33 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
COORDINATORS CORNER
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 002
|
|||
|
|
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
|
|||
|
|
ZC/2
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
+--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
|
|||
|
|
!Zone/Jul!Ndl-339!Nodel.-346!Nodel.-353!Nodel.-360!Nodel.-002!%%!
|
|||
|
|
+--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
|
|||
|
|
! 1/360 ! 6338 ! 6338 0! 6225 -113! 6199 -26! 6199 0!27!
|
|||
|
|
! 2/002 ! 14627 !14654 27!14605 -49!14523 -82!14538 15!63!
|
|||
|
|
! 3/360 ! 591 ! 591 0! 592 1! 580 -12! 580 0! 3!
|
|||
|
|
! 4/353 ! 436 ! 434 -2! 434 0! 435 1! 435 0! 2!
|
|||
|
|
! 5/353 ! 92 ! 92 0! 92 0! 91 -1! 91 0! 0!
|
|||
|
|
! 6/318 ! 1091 ! 1091 0! 1091 0! 1091 0! 1091 0! 5!
|
|||
|
|
+--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
|
|||
|
|
! 23175 !23200 25!23039 -161!22919 -120!22934 15!
|
|||
|
|
+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 34 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
ECHOING
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
North American Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec]
|
|||
|
|
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/16
|
|||
|
|
lisa@psg.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Summary of backbone & quasi-backbone echo changes during Nov & Dec.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
diff (backbone.na + backbone.no) 02-Nov-97 04-Jan-98 [edited].
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Echotag change
|
|||
|
|
--------------
|
|||
|
|
< WC!_CHAT Wildcat 3rd Party Support [old tag]
|
|||
|
|
> WILDCAT!_SUPPORT Wildcat 3rd Party Support [new tag]
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Added to the backbone
|
|||
|
|
---------------------
|
|||
|
|
> ARGUS Argus Support Echo
|
|||
|
|
> ART_BELL The Art Bell Talk Radio Show
|
|||
|
|
> BFDS_MAIL Batch File Distribution System, Coordination
|
|||
|
|
> DIABETIC_RECIPES Recipes for people with Diabetes!
|
|||
|
|
> EFC Earth: Final Conflict series discussions
|
|||
|
|
> IFTP_SUPPORT iFTP Support
|
|||
|
|
> IP_CONNECT Fidonet IP Integration Discussions
|
|||
|
|
> IRC_CHAT IRC_CHAT Discussion Conference
|
|||
|
|
> IRC_SCRIPTS IRC_SCRIPTS Discussion Conference
|
|||
|
|
> NASCAR_CONTEST (low traffic since 12/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
> NATURE Discussion of Nature and Natural Science
|
|||
|
|
> OT_SUPPORT (low traffic since 12/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
> SERVERS Servers Conference
|
|||
|
|
> STATS Echomail Stats & Info
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone
|
|||
|
|
-------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
< ADEPTSOFT (low traffic since 10/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< BAHAI (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< BE (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< CAP_NAT (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< CAR_AUDIO (low traffic since 10/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< ECPROG (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< FENCE_POST (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< FIDS_DEV (low traffic since 9/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< FIDS_SYSOP (low traffic since 9/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< MACWOOF (low traffic since 9/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< METAWORLDS (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< RANMA_1/2 (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< RIGHTS (low traffic since 8/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< ROMULAN_STAR_EMPIRE (low traffic since 6/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< SHARING (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< SHOTGUN_USERS (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
< WGW (low traffic since 7/1/97)
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 35 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
o There are 660 echos in backbone.na [04-Jan-98] (down 19)
|
|||
|
|
o There are 114 echos in backbone.no [04-Jan-98] (up 16)
|
|||
|
|
o for a total of 774 backbone & quasi-backbone echos (down 3)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 36 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
NOTICES
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Future History
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
12 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
HAL 9000 is one year old today.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
30 Apr 1998
|
|||
|
|
Queens Day, Holland.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
17 May 1998
|
|||
|
|
Independence Day, Norway.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
22 May 1998
|
|||
|
|
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
14 Sep 1998
|
|||
|
|
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
22 Sep 1998
|
|||
|
|
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1 Dec 1998
|
|||
|
|
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
|
|||
|
|
Tom Jennings.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
24 Jul 1999
|
|||
|
|
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
31 Dec 1999
|
|||
|
|
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1 Jan 2000
|
|||
|
|
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1 Jun 2000
|
|||
|
|
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
15 Sep 2000
|
|||
|
|
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1 Jan 2001
|
|||
|
|
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
|||
|
|
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-01 Page 37 5 Jan 1998
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
|
|||
|
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
[from 1449. Ed.]
|
|||
|
|
Latest Greatest Software Versions
|
|||
|
|
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
New entry: Tornado, a BBS from Konstantin Klyagin. Welcome to the
|
|||
|
|
list... ;-)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-=- Snip -=-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
OS Platform :
|
|||
|
|
Software package name :
|
|||
|
|
Version :
|
|||
|
|
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
|
|||
|
|
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
|
|||
|
|
Author / Support staff contact name :
|
|||
|
|
Author / Support staff contact node :
|
|||
|
|
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-=- Snip -=-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
MS-DOS:
|
|||
|
|
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
|
|||
|
|
ALLFIX 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
|
|||
|
|
Announcer 1.12 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
|
|||
|
|
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
|
|||
|
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
|
CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
|
|||
|
|
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
|
|||
|
|
FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX
|
|||
|
|
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
|
|||
|
|
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
|
|||
|
|
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
|
|||
|
|
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
|
|||
|
|
GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
|
GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
|
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
|||
|
|
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
|
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
|
|||
|
|
GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
|
|||
|
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
|
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
|
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
|
|||
|
|
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
|
|
InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
|
|||
|
|
InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
|
|||
|
|
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
|
|||
|
|
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
|
|||
|
|
InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
|
|||
|
|
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
|
|||
|
|
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
|
|||
|
|
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
|
|||
|
|
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
|
|||
|
|
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
|
|||
|
|
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
|
|||
|
|
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
|
|||
|
|
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
|
|||
|
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
|
|||
|
|
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
|
|||
|
|
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
|
|||
|
|
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
|
|||
|
|
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
|
|||
|
|
NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR
|
|||
|
|
Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
|
|||
|
|
O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
|
|||
|
|
PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
|
|
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
|
|||
|
|
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
|
|||
|
|
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
|
|||
|
|
Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP
|
|||
|
|
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
|
|||
|
|
Silver Xpress
|
|||
|
|
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
|
|||
|
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Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
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Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
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StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
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StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
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T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
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Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
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Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO
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TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
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TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
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TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
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TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
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TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
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WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
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WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
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WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
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xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
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XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
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ALLFIX/2 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
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BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
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Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
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FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
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FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
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FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
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FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2
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GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
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GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
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ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
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Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
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Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
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NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
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PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
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RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
|
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Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
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T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
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Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO2
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WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
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XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
|
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
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FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
|
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Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I
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Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
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|
|||
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BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
|
|||
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BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32
|
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
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FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
|
|||
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
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|||
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Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
|
|||
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Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
|
|||
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NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
|
|||
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PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
|
|||
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Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
|
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T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
|
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|
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WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
|
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WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
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|||
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|
|||
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ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
|
|||
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ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
|
|||
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ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
|
|||
|
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Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
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CrashMail 1.31 T X Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHMAIL
|
|||
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CrashTick 1.2 O F Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHTICK
|
|||
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DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
|
|||
|
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GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
|
|||
|
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Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
|
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
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TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
|
|||
|
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2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
|
|||
|
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TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS
|
|||
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|
|||
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Atari:
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
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ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
|
|||
|
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BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
|
|||
|
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BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
|
|||
|
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JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
|
|||
|
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Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA
|
|||
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|
|||
|
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Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
|
|||
|
|
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
|
|||
|
|
be listed by the first match.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
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Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
|
|||
|
|
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
|
|||
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|
|||
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File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] or download it from the
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Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone
|
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1 ZMH at 1200-9600+ HST/V32B. The FidoNews key is also available on
|
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FidoNet:
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html
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HTML FNews http://www.fidonews.org
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|||
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WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
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FTSC page http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/ftsc.htm
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Echomail http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
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Region 18: http://www.citicom.com/fido.html
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ZEC2: http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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Editor: Christopher Baker
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Donald Tees
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"FidoNews Editor"
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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and create the requisite chaos."
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-Tom Jennings
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