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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 7 17 February 1997
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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IT'S PRESIDENTS' DAY IN THE U.S.A.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Echomail anniversary and other gripes .................... 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 3
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Another viewpoint about FidoNet .......................... 3
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 5
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Common Sense for Fidonews ................................ 5
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FTSC - Maybe this article should be .jok ................. 5
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4. COLUMNS .................................................. 7
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FIDONET IN EUROPE ........................................ 7
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5. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 8
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FSC-0037 - AVATAR proposal ............................... 8
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FSC-0038 - A Domain Proposal ............................. 12
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FSC-0039 - A Type-2 Packet Extension Proposal ............ 13
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6. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 20
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 045 ...... 20
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7. NET HUMOR ................................................ 21
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Jeane Dixon didn't see it coming? ........................ 21
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8. NOTICES .................................................. 24
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Future History ........................................... 24
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9. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 26
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Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 26
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10. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ..................................... 33
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FidoNews PGP public-key listing .......................... 33
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11. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 34
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And more!
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As I write this Issue's editorial, it is the 11th anniversary of the
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invention of Echomail by the now infamous Jeff Rush. Echomail is now
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the reason why many people belong to FidoNet. What a concept!
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More opinion on the size of FidoNet this week but differing views of
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where the 'bloat' is. I guess it depends on whose ox is gored. [grin]
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Below is the text of an exchange with a Z2 Sysop. I didn't have time
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to get his permission to post his side but his name is removed for the
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sake of discussion and only my quoted reply is included.
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Date: 16 Feb 97 14:08:46
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From: Christopher Baker on 1:18/14 Rights On! in Edgewater FL
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To: Zone 2 Sysop
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Subj: Re: FNews
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> CB> but smaller IS better, right? [chuckle]
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> I think you won't understand.
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i think understanding is important. we all need to understand what is
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going on here.
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> It has nothing to do with smaller or bigger ...
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good, because size is irrelevant unless FidoNews in archive gets too
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big to fit on a floppy.
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> Posting old (and almost uninteresting) Doc's (while not practicised)
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> is pure nonsense.
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practice makes perfect. the publishing is for historical and technical
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purpose. the FTSC has lain dormant for years. the folks who went to
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all the trouble of creating the various proposals and technical essays
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contained in the FTSC docs never got much of an audience. the
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publishing serves to illustrate where we came from and may stimulate
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some action on some of these plans. it also acquaints people with the
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underpinnings of the hobby many do not understand at any technical
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level.
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> And the Fidonet-Software-Listing ?
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> Isn't there a FIDOSOFT conference where the listing may be posted ?
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> In Germany there is FIDOSOFT.xxx where discussions are going on and
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> a bigger list is posted frequently.
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Echomail is not mandatory and not what FidoNet is or does. it's a nice
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add-on that is useful for specific topics but it is not universal nor
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available to everyone in toto. your reference to FIDOSOFT.xxx is a
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good example of a local phenomenon that nobody outside your area knows
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about. that's why FidoNews is an important conduit for such
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FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 2 17 Feb 1997
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information.
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> I crashed this file month ago to Peter ... nothing happens.
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did you get any mail back from him? perhaps, he has incorporated some
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of the info into his listings or used it as a contact point for the
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authors involved? i cannot answer for Peter.
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he has taken on a monumental and thankless task in reorganizing and
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winnowing this list. the software list is VERY important to FidoNet.
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it is the ONLY centralized list of what is available for new Sysops
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[or current Sysops looking for a change]. it won't always be the size
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it is now. it is being actively maintained which means the dead wood
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will be removed eventually. this is going to take time, however, and
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FidoNews is not going to suffer for its size or content while that
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process continues. it is important information and the only way to get
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it to everyone [including the authors] at once is via FidoNews.
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the point is that FidoNews is the only place [other than the Nodelist]
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that is standard to all FidoNet Nodes. it is the appropriate place to
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recount FidoNet history and to disseminate material peculiar to
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FidoNet.
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i hope this helps our mutual understanding. [grin]
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thanks.
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QOFM.
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Chris
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We have another Guest Editorial in response to Clay's of 1406. Keep
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'em coming! I also see that Clay Tannacore HAS returned to the
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Nodelist as of .045 on Friday. That's the spirit!
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[This was slightly reformatted and edited for spelling and punctuation
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and clarification of which Net is being referred to only.] Ed.
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Hi Chris..
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I don't suppose this will be in the proper format for a submission,
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but I am ignorant of such things. Please do as you see fit. <grin>
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I'm responding to a few pieces in the latest issue of Fidonews -
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volume 6/97. Specifically, the article by Clay Tannacore about the
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direction of Fidonet.
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I found myself nodding my head in agreement with just about everything
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Clay says in his article. I particularly found agreement in his
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position #5, regarding the overuse of quoting in echomail. This has
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long been a thorn in my side in every echo I read, or have read and
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left. I have, on numerous occasions, taken it upon myself to attempt
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to educate writers in the proper methods of quoting in echomail. Among
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them, only quoting enough of the original message so others know your
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point of reference. I've also campaigned against the geeks with the
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multi-line, Internet style, high ascii "sigs" people have become so
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fond of lately. As a SysOp myself, I'm aware of the costs involved in
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moving echomail. I take it personally when people abuse our largesse
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with this crap. Unfortunately, the response to most of my pleas has
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been to "mind your own business - you ain't the Moderator!" Now you
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would expect such from the elements who regard anonymous
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communications as there personal playground to practice "Beavis and
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Butt-Headisms", but when you get the same response from an echos
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Moderator - saying "Leave the Moderating to the Moderator" - it's a
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bit much. After all, had the Moderator been doing his job - such
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conduct would not have been tolerated. The attitude seems to be "Fido
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is dying, let them talk or they'll go to the Net." Well fine - let
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them go if that's what Fido has degenerated into -I don't like paying
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the freight for it!
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Clay's point on the plethora of "Pay to Use" BBSes also struck a cord
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here. I've run a board since 1992 - as a hobby. Shareware BBS software
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(TriBBS 10/Pro, registered, thank you), bottomline all the way. I've
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never charged for access to my board. Yes - I do offer subscriptions
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for cash or donations of equipment in exchange for increased file
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limits. Now, there are 2 schools of thought on Pay vs. Free boards.
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The first is that people seeing a board charges for access will assume
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it has to be pretty good or they wouldn't charge. Interesting! The
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second is that, as Clay points out - we do this as a hobby, and
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therefore shouldn't charge for access. I tend to see points of
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agreement in each, since a few pay boards in my area are doing great,
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while free boards like mine are suffering. Doubly interesting since on
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"free previews" I've taken on these boards, neither the graphics work,
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features, games, nor filebase are as extensive or good as mine. But
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there ya go - different strokes. Clay's proposition that pay boards
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are sometimes thinly disguised pirated software hangouts, i.e. "Elite"
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boards, has an element of truth to it. That is certainly the case in
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my areas anyway. I limit non-members on my board to specific but
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generous download levels. Members are allowed practically unrestricted
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downloads. That's it. All callers have full access to the 15 CDROMs I
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carry, all message networks and echos, and all the games. I do know
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of several boards running hacked software, with logon procedures like
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speakeasys of the 20's - complete with "joe sent me" doorways and
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phony menus. Pretty neat if you want to spend 3 hours online
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downloading a copy of Win95 at 14400. Not me, thanks.
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A final point is Clay's mention of the effects of the [Inter]Net on
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local "hobby" bulletin boards. The [Inter]net has hurt me badly.
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Calls have dropped significantly over the last year, for a number of
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reasons. One of those is new computer owners/users don't need
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additional communications software and the accompanying knowledge to
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call the [Inter]Net - most PCs come with the software. They can
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connect to the [Inter]Net and play. To call a BBS they have to locate
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and install a comm program, find some local boards numbers, then plod
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through setting up to connect properly with ANSI, etc. Not a lot of
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fun for todays crop of "point and click or forget it" PC users. We
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should indeed stress the FREE nature of our boards, and the usefulness
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of Fidonet in messaging all over the world via a local call. I've
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found myself making close friends I've yet to meet in countries the
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world over, as well as states of this great country I've never
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visited. That means something, and should be made note of. There has
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to be a simpler method of interfacing local boards with beginners PCs.
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How that could be accomplished I have not a clue - the more technical
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aspects of these toys we play with escape me, and at this time of my
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life (age 50), there is no hope of my learning. That I will leave up
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to others more capable.
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Fido[Net] has some problems, to be sure. None of them are
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insurmountable, in my opinion. Surely the "in your face" mentality of
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certain recent critics does nothing to enhance its prospects. Fidonet
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after all is a mirror image of politics - many criticize, yet too few
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offer solutions. Not surprising since criticism is easy. Finding
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solutions takes work and some semblance of intelligence - both
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characteristics lacking in the harbingers of doom.
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Respectfully,
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Common Sense for Fidonews
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by Lee Kindness, 2:259/7, lkindnes@csl.co.uk
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Gary Gilmore was quite rash in a number of his comments a couple of
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weeks back... However a couple of valid comments can be made regarding
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Fidonews's size and content:
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o Internet distribution sites - A simple link to a web page that
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contains these address would suffice. It goes without saying that
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everyone that is interested in these sites would have internet access,
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and hence be able to access such a page.
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o Zone, Region, Net Homepages - As above, a reference to a web page
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would do.
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o Jokes & ASCII 'pics' - Not the thing we should *promote* for
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Fidonews inclusion. It's the type of thing anyone with an email
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address gets bombarded with daily from friends and in the humour
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echoes (PUNCH et al). So before you think about submitting these
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jokes and pictures consider that you've got - it's more than likely
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everyone else has too!
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o Software listing - Monthly rather than weekly would be a better
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frequency, and lets get rid of the old software section - a pile of
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meaning less names and version numbers is of no use to anyone!
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o PGP key - A pointless peace of INet poseur?
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Lets cut down on all the static information...
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And now onto the positive aspects... The posting of FTSC documents is
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a great idea (i waiting to see how the RTF FSC is handled thou ;) and
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Chris has done a great job in reviving Fidonews after Tees's death
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grip.
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FTSC - Dead and Buried?
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by Lee Kindness, 2:259/7, lkindness@csl.co.uk
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Last year i submitted 3 FTS update proposals to the FTSC Chair Dave
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Nugent. 5 months later, no reply.
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Speaks volumes really... I wonder how many people remember the words
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of Dave when he took over the position, pot calling the ke... I
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really must dig them up and post them!
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We need a solution, The 'new' FTSC-something leaded by R1EC seems
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too elitist (All this FTSC_PUBLIC echo bollox, get into NET_DEV
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where the developers are!)
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A point to ponder...
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Fidonet in Europe
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by Dave Meikle (2:259/24.105 , postmaster@rjambo.abel.co.uk)
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Send info to europe@2:259/24.105 or europe@rjambo.abel.co.uk
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Nothing much happening apart from THE Zone 2 Fidonet Home page @
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http://www.z2.fidonet.org .
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Dave
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P.S. TO GET THE LATEST FIDONET IN EUROPE INFO SEND A FIDONET MESSAGE
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TO infomail@2:259/24.105 with the subject line: Fido-in-europe .
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FSC-0037
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Updates: FSC-0025
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[This is part of the continuing series of FidoNet Standards and
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proposals presented as FidoNet History. These docs have been
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reformatted to 70 columns where required. As always, full text
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versions are available via the sources listed in the Masthead info at
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the end of each Issue.] Ed.
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Pittsburgh, PA
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Advanced Video Attribute Terminal Assembler and Recreator
|
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|
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|
George A. Stanislav
|
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|
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|
Fidonet 1:129/39.0
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Information
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This FSC is being distributed to members of the FidoNet
|
|||
|
community in order to solicit their reactions to the
|
|||
|
proposals contained in it. While the issues discussed may
|
|||
|
not be directly relevant to FidoNet standards, they may
|
|||
|
be interesting to implementers. Distribution of this
|
|||
|
document is unlimited.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Revised on 25 November 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Definitions
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Avatar, level 0 - The Avatar protocol as presented at Fidocon '88 and
|
|||
|
described in AVATAR0.C, dated 23 August 1989, plus extensions
|
|||
|
defined in this document.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
AVT/0 - An abbreviation for Avatar, level 0, suggested by Joaquim
|
|||
|
Homrighausen.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Current attribute - Video attribute defined by the last ^V^A, ^V^L,
|
|||
|
^V^M or ^L AVT/0 command whichever happened last. In AVT/0, ^L
|
|||
|
sets the value of current attribute to 3, ^V^L, ^V^M and ^V^A
|
|||
|
to an explicit value. In addition, ^V^B turns blink on.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Extending AVT/0
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It has become clear some of the Avatar commands originally reserved
|
|||
|
for AVT/1 would be very useful in AVT/0. I was hesitant to add them
|
|||
|
for one simple reason: Any addition on level 0 will break all existing
|
|||
|
Avatar emulating software.
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FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 9 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
However, at present there are only three programs I know of that have
|
|||
|
implemented Avatar emulation: My own TinyTerm, Joaquim Homrighausen's
|
|||
|
FrontDoor and Jason Galanter's Jterm.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Both Joaquim and Jason have assured me they would put the new commands
|
|||
|
in their programs, thus nothing will be broken. With that assurance in
|
|||
|
mind, I feel confident no chaos will result from adding these new
|
|||
|
commands.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
New Commands (brief definitions)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^I> - Turn insert mode ON. It stays on until any other
|
|||
|
AVT/0 command except <^Y> and <^V><^Y> is
|
|||
|
encountered after which it is turned off;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^J><numlines><upper><left><lower><right> - scroll area
|
|||
|
up;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^K><numlines><upper><left><lower><right> - scroll area
|
|||
|
down;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^L><attr><lines><columns> - clear area, set attribute;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^M><attr><char><lines><columns> - initialize area, set
|
|||
|
attribute;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^N> - delete character, scroll rest of line left;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
<^V><^Y><numchars><char>[...]<count> - repeat pattern.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Detailed Description
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Insert mode: Insert mode controls the way characters are printed on
|
|||
|
the screen. Insert mode is always assumed OFF unless explicitly
|
|||
|
set ON by the ^V^I command after which it stays on until another
|
|||
|
AVT/0 command except for ^Y or ^V^Y is encountered. Then it reverses
|
|||
|
back to off.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Whenever insert mode is OFF, characters are printed on the
|
|||
|
screen like this:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. Print character at current cursor position using current
|
|||
|
attribute, overwriting whatever was previously displayed at
|
|||
|
current cursor position;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. Move cursor to next position, usually one character to the
|
|||
|
right. At end of the line, move the cursor to next line
|
|||
|
(possibly scrolling the display or current window if in
|
|||
|
AVT/1).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Whenever insert mode is ON, characters are printed on the
|
|||
|
screen as follows:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. Starting at current cursor position and going all the way
|
|||
|
to the second last character on current line, scroll the
|
|||
|
text one character to the right;
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|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 10 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. Discard the character previously at the end of the line, do
|
|||
|
NOT move it at the beginning of the next line;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3. Print character at current cursor position using current
|
|||
|
attribute;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4. Move cursor to next position, precisely as in par. 2 of
|
|||
|
insert mode off.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If ^Y or ^V^Y are encountered, the string of characters they compress
|
|||
|
is first expanded, then treated as an ordinary stream of characters
|
|||
|
printed according to the above rules.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Any other AVT/0 command turns insert mode back off. Please note that
|
|||
|
in either case the cursor is moved to its next position in an
|
|||
|
identical manner. The mere fact the cursor is moved to next line, or
|
|||
|
even scrolls the screen a line up, does NOT turn insert mode off. Only
|
|||
|
an AVT/0 except as mentioned above can change insert mode on or off.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If control characters are a part of the text stream, they are
|
|||
|
interpreted indentically in insert mode on and off as follows:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Carriage return - move cursor at the beginning of the same
|
|||
|
line;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Line feed - move cursor one line down (scroll screen
|
|||
|
or window [in AVT/1] if necessary), do not
|
|||
|
change cursor column;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Back space - move cursor one position to the left. Do
|
|||
|
NOT overwrite the character at that
|
|||
|
position. Do nothing if already at the
|
|||
|
leftmost position;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tab - move cursor to next tab position without
|
|||
|
overwriting anything. Tab positions are
|
|||
|
multiples of 8. Do nothing if already at
|
|||
|
the rightmost position.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A space is treated as a character, not as a control character.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Scrolling an area (^V^J and ^V^K): The area defined by its upper,
|
|||
|
left, lower and right coordinates is scrolled up <^V^J) or
|
|||
|
down (^V^K) by <numlines> lines filling the gap with blank
|
|||
|
spaces using current attribute. If the value of <numlines> is
|
|||
|
zero or exceeds the actual number of lines within the scrolled
|
|||
|
area, the area is filled with blanks using current attribute.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
These two commands do NOT change the position of the cursor,
|
|||
|
nor do they define the scrolled area as the default window.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The coordinates are relative to the upper left corner of the
|
|||
|
screen (or current window in AVT/1). The coordinates of upper
|
|||
|
left corner are 1,1. If a coordinate contains 0, it is to be
|
|||
|
changed to 1.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 11 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Initializing an area (^V^M): This command contains several steps:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. Set current attribute to <attr>;
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. Starting at current cursor position (inclusively), ending
|
|||
|
at current cursor position plus number of <lines> and
|
|||
|
<columns>, print <char> at all position inside the defined
|
|||
|
area. Do not move the cursor. If the number of columns or
|
|||
|
lines exceeds whatever is available to the right and below
|
|||
|
current cursor position, truncate the dimensions to fit
|
|||
|
within the limits of the screen (or current window in
|
|||
|
AVT/1).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Clearing an area (^V^L): This is a shortcut version of the ^V^M
|
|||
|
command.
|
|||
|
The character to be used to initialize the area of the screen
|
|||
|
is assumed to be a blank space. In other words, it sets
|
|||
|
current attribute and clears an area of the screen starting at
|
|||
|
current cursor position (which remains unchanged).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please note that the usual 7-bit restriction applies to ^V^L That
|
|||
|
means that the attribute byte should be anded with 7f hex before
|
|||
|
applying. If blinking is desired, ^V^B should be used next.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
On the other hand, requiring to ignore the high bit in ^V^M would make
|
|||
|
it impossible to fill the area of the screen with a blinking pattern
|
|||
|
(something I have seen used very creatively by Chris Gaal of PittNet).
|
|||
|
Therefore, if bit 7 of attr is set in ^V^M, current attribute is set
|
|||
|
to <attr> AND 7f hex and blink is turned on before filling the area
|
|||
|
with a character.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Deleting a character (^V^N): Starting at the column one character to
|
|||
|
the right of current cursor position all the way to end of the
|
|||
|
line, scroll the text one character position to the left. This
|
|||
|
effectively deletes the character at current cursor position.
|
|||
|
Print a blank space using current attribute at the rightmost
|
|||
|
end of the line to fill the gap. Do not change current cursor
|
|||
|
position. If the cursor is at the end of the line, simply
|
|||
|
overwrite the last character with a blank space using current
|
|||
|
attribute.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Repeat pattern: This is an extension of the ^Y command which allows a
|
|||
|
group of characters to form a repetititious pattern. <numchars>
|
|||
|
determines the number of characters in the pattern, <count> the
|
|||
|
number of times the pattern is to be printed out. The pattern
|
|||
|
may contain AVT/0 codes.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For example, <^V><^Y><#3>ABC<#4> expands to "ABCABCABCABC".
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Scrolling Philosophy
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
An important philosophical question has not been answered yet: When
|
|||
|
scrolling the contents of an area (in the scrolling commands ^V^J and
|
|||
|
^V^J, in insert mode ON and in deleting characters ^V^N) should only
|
|||
|
the text be scrolled and the attribute of the scrolled areas remain
|
|||
|
where they are or should the attributes move as well.
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 12 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A case can be made for either approach. Obviously, the gaps created by
|
|||
|
scrolling are filled with current attribute, therefore, it seems more
|
|||
|
logical to scroll the attributes along with the text (else there would
|
|||
|
be no need to fill the gaps). Thus we follow a consistent principle of
|
|||
|
video attributes belonging to a character (be it a blank, a digit, or
|
|||
|
a true character), not to a location. Whenever a character is scrolled
|
|||
|
to a different location, it takes its attribute along.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Document: FSC-0038
|
|||
|
Version: 001
|
|||
|
Date: 02/22/90
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A Domain Proposal For Fidonet(r)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
jim nutt
|
|||
|
1:114/30@fidonet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Information:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This FSC suggests a proposed protocol for the FidoNet
|
|||
|
community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
|
|||
|
improvements. Distribution of this document is
|
|||
|
unlimited.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A. Rationale
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A recent proliferation of alternative networks based on Fidonet
|
|||
|
technology has brought to light the difficulty of maintaining a fully
|
|||
|
coupled addressing method for Fidonet. Additionally, Fidonet has
|
|||
|
joined the Internet, revealing a need for a transparent scheme for
|
|||
|
addressing messages across the networks. It is therefore proposed
|
|||
|
that a system be established whereby geographical or political sub
|
|||
|
units of the network can be broken off into an independent network
|
|||
|
called a "domain". These networks will be fully independent, even to
|
|||
|
the point of having duplicate net/node numbers or using a different
|
|||
|
addressing scheme altogether. This will allow continued growth of
|
|||
|
Fidonet without necessitating that the nodelist grow to an
|
|||
|
unmanageable size (if it isn't already there). Among the advantages
|
|||
|
of this type of system are reduced nodelist overhead, easier inter-
|
|||
|
network communication and greater autonomy of alternative networks.
|
|||
|
This document will only cover the definition of the necessary
|
|||
|
addressing extensions to support domain based addressing. It will not
|
|||
|
attempt to define standards for gating mail and conferences between
|
|||
|
domains.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
B. Description
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It is proposed that domain addressing be implemented in a fashion
|
|||
|
similar to the current ZONE extended addressing method. Domain names
|
|||
|
will be case insensitive. The domain extended addressing line will be
|
|||
|
comprised of a leading SOH (^A, 0x01) followed by the keyword
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 13 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"DOMAIN", the destination domain of the message and then the full
|
|||
|
address (zone:net/node.point) of the destination node in that domain,
|
|||
|
followed by the source domain of the message and the full address of
|
|||
|
the originating node. The line will be terminated by a <CR> (0x0d)
|
|||
|
and an optional linefeed (0x0a), fields within the line will be
|
|||
|
separated by one or more spaces or tabs. i.e.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
^ADOMAIN dstdmn daddress srcdmn saddress
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Where "dstdmn" is the name of the destination domain and "daddress" is
|
|||
|
the address of the destination system in a format appropriate to the
|
|||
|
destination domain. "srcdmn" and "saddress" are similar, except that
|
|||
|
they express the origination address of the message in a format
|
|||
|
appropriate to the originating domain. This allows a seamless gateway
|
|||
|
to the Internet and other large system networks. The destination
|
|||
|
address in the FTS-001 message header should be that of a gateway to
|
|||
|
the destination domain.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
C. Summary
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Domains are independent networks that are fully decoupled from the
|
|||
|
Fidonet nodelist. Message traffic is passed back and forth between
|
|||
|
domains via domain gateways that can understand the DOMAIN extended
|
|||
|
addressing line and act accordingly upon the message. The advantages
|
|||
|
include reduced nodelist size and easier communication with other
|
|||
|
networks.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Document: FSC-0039
|
|||
|
Version: 04
|
|||
|
Date: 29-Sep-90
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
A Type-2 Packet Extension Proposal
|
|||
|
Mark A. Howard 1:260/340@FidoNet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Status of this document:
|
|||
|
------------------------
|
|||
|
This FSC suggests a proposed protocol for the FidoNet(r) community,
|
|||
|
and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements.
|
|||
|
Distribution of this document is unlimited.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fido and FidoNet are registered marks of Tom Jennings and Fido
|
|||
|
Software. FTS-0001 is a copyrighted work of Randy Bush.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Introduction
|
|||
|
------------
|
|||
|
This document serves two major purposes. The first is an attempt to
|
|||
|
define and document the Type-2 packet which is widely in use in
|
|||
|
FidoNet today. Although FTS-0001 defines the structure of a Type-2
|
|||
|
packet, the natural evolution of our network, mostly with regards to
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 14 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
addressing methodology, has made it necessary to utilize hitherto
|
|||
|
unused portions of the header to insert Zone and Point information.
|
|||
|
Also, it has become apparent that some of the existing fields are
|
|||
|
not large enough to accomplish their original tasks.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The second is to propose a simple mechanism to allow FidoNet to
|
|||
|
begin to utilize advanced mail packing techniques. It is quite
|
|||
|
apparent that while Type-2 has served us faithfully for some time
|
|||
|
now, the evolution of our network in terms of technical and physical
|
|||
|
complexity has caused us to consider more efficient and functional
|
|||
|
ways to pack mail.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It should be made clear that with the exception of the Capability
|
|||
|
Word, Capability Word Validation Copy, ProductCode(hi), and
|
|||
|
Revision(minor), which are proposed extensions to the Type-2 packet
|
|||
|
header, this FSC is an attempt to correctly document existing
|
|||
|
practices with regards to the insertion of zone and point info by at
|
|||
|
least three mail processors in use today.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Type-2 Header (Where's the Zone?)
|
|||
|
-------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Although FTS-0001 has recently been updated to reflect the use of
|
|||
|
some of the areas in the packed message header for zone data, at
|
|||
|
least two other methods for inserting the zone information have been
|
|||
|
adopted, making it necessary to provide support for both formats in
|
|||
|
all of the zone aware mail processors. The end result is more code,
|
|||
|
and redundant information in the packet header.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This has presented a problem in logistics, as it is difficult to
|
|||
|
consider the project of updating mail processors using one type to
|
|||
|
use the other. As sufficient indentification is provided, in the
|
|||
|
form of the product code, to determine the expected location of the
|
|||
|
zone information, and because code already exists in most of the
|
|||
|
mail processors to overcome this, this proposal does not attempt to
|
|||
|
suggest that one method be used over the other, rather the intent is
|
|||
|
to attempt to document the extensions in use, and the products
|
|||
|
involved.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
See the accompanying chart and cross-reference.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Product Code
|
|||
|
----------------
|
|||
|
Based upon the current rate of requests for product codes from the
|
|||
|
FTSC, it is probable that the Product Code byte will not be large
|
|||
|
enough to accomodate all of the codes required. While it is not
|
|||
|
reasonable to expect that all Type-2 processors will eventually
|
|||
|
check the hi-order byte proposed here, it is likely that 'current'
|
|||
|
mail processors will. This can be nothing but benefical, as it will
|
|||
|
force users to upgrade their mail processors to a product which will
|
|||
|
as a minimum, support Type-2 with Zone and Point extensions, and
|
|||
|
quite possibly, processors that will utilize more advanced mail
|
|||
|
packing techniques, making Type-2 extinct once and for all.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Capability Word (How do we GET there from here?)
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Everybody would like to see more efficient and functional ways to
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 15 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
pack and exchange mail. Several Type-3 message bundle proposals
|
|||
|
exist, but none really address a problem which must be solved first.
|
|||
|
The problem is that since FidoNet is a hobbyist network, no demands
|
|||
|
can be placed on any one sysop to upgrade or change their bundling
|
|||
|
software. Because of this, it is necessary to consider strategies
|
|||
|
which allow for the existence of Type-2 bundlers in the network
|
|||
|
topology.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Considerable advantages can be realized, however, between systems
|
|||
|
that consent to use advanced bundling techniques. One way to do
|
|||
|
this is to simply send netmail to all of your connecting systems,
|
|||
|
saying "Hey, I've got a Type-3 bundler now, how about you?" This
|
|||
|
could become quite tiresome, and does not represent much of an
|
|||
|
improvement on the current situation.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What would be desirable is a network that would 'upgrade itself'.
|
|||
|
Given a situation where mail processors of various capabilities will
|
|||
|
exist in a network topology, the goal is to provide a mechanism
|
|||
|
whereby two links can determine and utilize the most efficient
|
|||
|
bundling method to use, in a manner transparent to the sysop.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For instance, let's say that the FTSC releases the Type-7 All New
|
|||
|
Singing and Dancing bundle format. Well, your current version of
|
|||
|
SlingToss can only support Types 2, 3, and 5. One of your downlinks
|
|||
|
gets a new version of MailMangle which can support Types 2, 3, 4,
|
|||
|
and 7. Well, it is quite obvious that since you and he are
|
|||
|
exchanging 4 megs of mail each night, and it's an overseas call,
|
|||
|
that it would be in your interest to obtain a new version of
|
|||
|
SlingToss which can support Type 7.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Note that this is *optional*. Because both processors can support
|
|||
|
Type-3, they will continue to exchange Type-3 mail quite happily,
|
|||
|
even though MailMangle is happily advertising the availability of
|
|||
|
Type-7. Even your downlinks which are still using stone-age Type-2
|
|||
|
processors will be fine, as SlingToss will always export Type-2
|
|||
|
bundles when no higher capability can be determined.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So, after dashing off the check to the author, your new version of
|
|||
|
SlingToss comes in the mail! You rush over to your system, and
|
|||
|
install it. The next time SlingToss exports mail to the MailMangle
|
|||
|
system, it says "Hey! I can now support Type 2, 3, 5, and 7! So,
|
|||
|
whattya got?" This is no skin off MailMangle's nose, he's had Type-7
|
|||
|
for quite a while, and he begins to export Type-7 bundles to
|
|||
|
SlingToss. "It's about time.", he says.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Now, this scenario is made possible by implementing a 'Capability
|
|||
|
Word' in the present and future packet headers. The Capability
|
|||
|
Update mechanism depends on several assumptions:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1) Any Advanced Capability Bundler *MUST* be capable of receiving
|
|||
|
and faithfully processing Type-2 bundles. Hopefully, the inbound
|
|||
|
packets will be in the new format proposed by this document, but
|
|||
|
then again, this is not an exact science. What this means is
|
|||
|
that it is likely that some packets may arrive with the
|
|||
|
Capability Word (CW) set to 0. In this case, Type-2 is assumed,
|
|||
|
assuring compatibility. The only caveat is that it is
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|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
conceivable that some obscure mail processor uses the location
|
|||
|
proposed for the CW for other arcane purposes. This | can
|
|||
|
detected through the CWValidation Copy, which is byte-swapped and
|
|||
|
| compared with the CW at that time. If a mismatch is found, a
|
|||
|
CW of | type 0 is assumed, and a Type-2 bundling method is used.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2) An Advanced Capability Bundler, hereafter referred to as a Type-N
|
|||
|
Bundler, must have a method to store and maintain the node-by-
|
|||
|
node capability information. This can be done many ways, and in
|
|||
|
fact several processors already have begun to maintain node
|
|||
|
information outside of that found in AREAS.BBS, mostly to
|
|||
|
implement pre-arranged alternate compression methods. In a text
|
|||
|
configuration file, you might see the following:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
; Address Comp Send LastCW ; Comments
|
|||
|
Node 1:260/340 ZIP Auto 7 ; Auto detect & upgrade
|
|||
|
Node 1:135/20 LZH 3 2,3,7 ; Always send Type-3
|
|||
|
Node 1: ARC 2 0 ; Stone-Age processor
|
|||
|
Node 1:135/4 --- Auto 7 ; Sent me netmail
|
|||
|
Node 1: --- 0 0 ; Don't send CW
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In this example, the fields are:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Address - downlink address. Note that this is not necessarily
|
|||
|
relative to echomail, only, it is possible to append
|
|||
|
information to the node database as netmail packets are
|
|||
|
receieved from different addresses.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Comp - desired mail compression method.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Send - Auto - automatically determined maximum common packing
|
|||
|
method to use. Automatically update to LastCW
|
|||
|
when packing.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
LastCW - Last CW received from remote system.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3) A Type-N Bundle will always advertise it's capabilities in the CW
|
|||
|
regardless of the type being sent. As shown in the above
|
|||
|
example, it allows Type-N processors to automatically track the
|
|||
|
capability of your system. Again, in cases where a stone-age
|
|||
|
processor is being used, this field will be ignored, and in the
|
|||
|
unusual event that it is not ignored, and is somehow harmful to
|
|||
|
the far system, the Type-N processor can be configured to send a
|
|||
|
CW of 0.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The format of the Capability Word is designed to support up to 15
|
|||
|
future bundle types, and is bit-mapped to facilitate the easy
|
|||
|
determination of the maximum common level supported between two
|
|||
|
nodes:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
msb Capability Word lsb
|
|||
|
Node Supports ------------FTSC Type Supported----------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
U 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2
|
|||
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2, 3, and 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1
|
|||
|
2, 3, and 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1
|
|||
|
2 (this FSC) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
|
|||
|
Stone Age** 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
|
|||
|
^
|
|||
|
+--- Indicates UseNet RFC-822 capability
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
** - a mismatch in the CWValidation Copy also
|
|||
|
produces a CW=0.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
In this example, the Type-N bundler would first compare the remote
|
|||
|
CW | and the byte-swapped remote CWValidation Copy, and check for a
|
|||
|
mismatch. Prior to the compare, the MSB of the CW's are masked, as
|
|||
|
this bit is reserved to indicate whether the mail processor is
|
|||
|
capable of also accepting UseNet RFC-822 bundles. Following the MSB
|
|||
|
mask, and bit comparison, if they do not match, a remote CW of 0 is
|
|||
|
assumed. If they match, the Type-N processor would AND the local
|
|||
|
and remote CW words, obtaining a CW expressing the Types which are
|
|||
|
in common to both systems. The most significant Type will be used,
|
|||
|
by default, but note that this assumes that new bundling Types will
|
|||
|
be increasingly more efficient or in some way more beneficial.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Because this may not always be the case, there should be a method
|
|||
|
provided, as illustrated above, to override the automatic upgrade
|
|||
|
should this become the case.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The MSB of the CW is used to indicate whether the mail processor can
|
|||
|
accept UseNet RFC-822 bundles or not. It is a separate indicator,
|
|||
|
and not intended to be used as a part of the above comparison,
|
|||
|
however can be used to also advertise RFC-822 capability to other
|
|||
|
systems. Since RFC-822 is 'set in stone', there is no need to
|
|||
|
assign more than one capability bit.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It might seem somewhat limiting to only consider the possibility of
|
|||
|
15 different future bundling methods, but it is my opinion that the
|
|||
|
careful use of a 'Sub-Type' byte in the packet header can allow for
|
|||
|
the variations on a single theme, and that proposals for new formats
|
|||
|
should be evaluated by the FTSC to determine whether sufficient
|
|||
|
benefit can be realized in the implementation of the given format,
|
|||
|
prior to assigning a new type code.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mailers
|
|||
|
-------
|
|||
|
It is quite clear to me that should this concept take hold, that the
|
|||
|
logical place to store node capability data is in the local nodelist
|
|||
|
database, or an index-associated data file. As above, it is
|
|||
|
necessary to generate Type-2 packets for whatever purpose, unless it
|
|||
|
is known by prior association, that the far mailer can accept other
|
|||
|
types of packets. It is also quite reasonable to assume that a
|
|||
|
nodelist flag could be assigned to advertise the CW for a given
|
|||
|
node, which the native mailer nodelist compiler could then
|
|||
|
immediately determine the preferred bundling method for any given
|
|||
|
node in FidoNet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Another possibility would be to pass a capability advertisement in
|
|||
|
the extensible portion of a handshake protocol, which may or may not
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 18 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
already exist in FidoNet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The approach suggested previously in this document suggests the use
|
|||
|
of a text configuration file, but it is quite obvious that many
|
|||
|
benefits can be realized through the use of the nodelist, including
|
|||
|
the use of additional flags to indicate the preferred compression
|
|||
|
method, etc.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Summary
|
|||
|
-------
|
|||
|
This document has been created in an attempt to define a method to
|
|||
|
allow the future expansion and enhancement of FidoNet technology
|
|||
|
mail processors and mailers, and in a way that is the least
|
|||
|
disruptive to existing mail operations. The intent is to provide
|
|||
|
for an environment that is as open, and extensible as possible.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The mechanism described should allow many different types of
|
|||
|
processors (FTSC-registered) to exist in the network at once, and to
|
|||
|
provide an environment which is designed to operate at it's maximum
|
|||
|
efficiency wherever possible or practical.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Revision 2 of this document was produced to implement suggestions
|
|||
|
made primarily by Jan Vroonhof, who suggested the use of the CW
|
|||
|
Validation Copy. Jan presented this idea in his FSC-0048, along
|
|||
|
with other concepts relating to the correct indentification and
|
|||
|
handling of zone and point addressing. This document sanctions the
|
|||
|
improvements to the CW as recommended, but does not address or
|
|||
|
support the other extensions recommended in FSC-0048.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thanks
|
|||
|
------
|
|||
|
To Ward Christensen, creator of XModem and BYE.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings, who started this whole mess.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Joaquim Homrighausen, for lots of good ideas, and motivation.
|
|||
|
Here's another Lamborghini to work on.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Wynn Wagner, Oliver McDonald, Roeland Meyer, Andrew Farmer,
|
|||
|
Claude Warren, Jan Vroonhof, Bob Hartman, and Vince Perriello,
|
|||
|
who all contributed in some way to the creation of this document,
|
|||
|
mostly through their messages in NET_DEV.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Type-2 Packet Format (proposed, but currently in use)
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Field Ofs Siz Type Description Expected
|
|||
|
value(s) ------- --- --- ---- -------------------------- -------
|
|||
|
----------
|
|||
|
OrgNode 0x0 2 Word Origination node address 0-65535
|
|||
|
DstNode 2 2 Word Destination node address 1-65535
|
|||
|
Year 4 2 Int Year packet generated 19??-2???
|
|||
|
Month 6 2 Int Month " " 0-11 (0=Jan)
|
|||
|
Day 8 2 Int Day " " 1-31
|
|||
|
Hour A 2 Int Hour " " 0-23
|
|||
|
Min C 2 Int Minute " " 0-59
|
|||
|
Sec E 2 Int Second " " 0-59
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 19 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Baud 10 2 Int Baud Rate (not in use) ????
|
|||
|
PktVer 12 2 Int Packet Version Always 2
|
|||
|
OrgNet 14 2 Word Origination net address 1-65535
|
|||
|
DstNet 16 2 Word Destination net address 1-65535
|
|||
|
PrdCodL 18 1 Byte FTSC Product Code (lo) 1-255
|
|||
|
* PVMajor 19 1 Byte FTSC Product Rev (major) 1-255
|
|||
|
Password 1A 8 Char Packet password A-Z,0-9
|
|||
|
* QOrgZone 22 2 Int Orig Zone (ZMailQ,QMail) 1-65535
|
|||
|
* QDstZone 24 2 Int Dest Zone (ZMailQ,QMail) 1-65535
|
|||
|
Filler 26 2 Byte Spare Change ?
|
|||
|
| * CapValid 28 2 Word CW Byte-Swapped Valid Copy BitField
|
|||
|
* PrdCodH 2A 1 Byte FTSC Product Code (hi) 1-255
|
|||
|
* PVMinor 2B 1 Byte FTSC Product Rev (minor) 1-255
|
|||
|
* CapWord 2C 2 Word Capability Word BitField
|
|||
|
* OrigZone 2E 2 Int Origination Zone 1-65535
|
|||
|
* DestZone 30 2 Int Destination Zone 1-65535
|
|||
|
* OrigPoint 32 2 Int Origination Point 1-65535
|
|||
|
* DestPoint 34 2 Int Destination Point 1-65535
|
|||
|
* ProdData 36 4 Long Product-specific data Whatever
|
|||
|
PktTerm 3A 2 Word Packet terminator 0000
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
* - extensions to FTS-0001
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ofs, Siz are in hex, other values are decimal.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Zone/Point Aware Mail Processors (probably a partial list)
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Prod
|
|||
|
Code Name - Uses QOrg/QDstZone Orig/DestZone Orig/DestPoint
|
|||
|
---- ----------- ------------- ------------- --------------
|
|||
|
0x0C FrontDoor Reads/Updates Yes Yes
|
|||
|
0x1A DBridge ????? Yes Yes
|
|||
|
0x45 XRS Reads/Updates Yes Yes
|
|||
|
0x29 QMail Yes ????? Not point-aware
|
|||
|
0x35 ZMailQ Yes ????? Not point-aware
|
|||
|
0x3F TosScan Reads/Updates Yes Yes
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-30-
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 20 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
COORDINATORS CORNER
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 045
|
|||
|
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
|
|||
|
ZC/2
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
|Zone|Nl-017|Nodelist-024|Nodelist-031|Nodelist-038|Nodelist-045|%%|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
| 1 | 10177|10063 -114 | 9877 -186 | 9729 -148 | 9527 -202 |34|
|
|||
|
| 2 | 15936|15938 2 |16078 140 |16067 -11 |16074 7 |57|
|
|||
|
| 3 | 865| 863 -2 | 863 0 | 863 0 | 846 -17 | 3|
|
|||
|
| 4 | 553| 558 5 | 550 -8 | 549 -1 | 538 -11 | 2|
|
|||
|
| 5 | 93| 93 0 | 87 -6 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 0|
|
|||
|
| 6 | 1073| 1072 -1 | 1072 0 | 1072 0 | 1071 -1 | 4|
|
|||
|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
|||
|
| 28697|28587 -110 |28527 -60 |28367 -160 |28143 -224 |
|
|||
|
+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 21 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
NET HUMOR
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To: cbaker84@digital.net
|
|||
|
From: top5@lists.zdnet.com
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Subject: TopFive -- 1/31/97 -- Things Overheard at Psychic Jeane
|
|||
|
Dixon's Funeral
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Errors-To: top5-errors@lists.zdnet.com
|
|||
|
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:38:53 MST
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
_____________________________________
|
|||
|
_________| |________
|
|||
|
\ | The Top Five List | /
|
|||
|
\ | www.topfive.com | /
|
|||
|
\ | | /
|
|||
|
\ | Sponsored by Windows Sources | /
|
|||
|
> | www.winsources.com | <
|
|||
|
/ | | \
|
|||
|
/ | January 31, 1997 | \
|
|||
|
/ |_____________________________________| \
|
|||
|
/___________) (__________\
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Top 16 Things Overheard at Psychic Jeane Dixon's Funeral
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
16> "Ms Warwick, please stop talking to the deceased."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
15> "Now we'll NEVER know who's going to win the Oscars!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
14> "I'm thinking of a passage from John Chapter 3 between
|
|||
|
1 and 20."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
13> "You're next, you know."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
12> "Quiet down, everyone! I can't hear a word Jeane's saying!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
11> "I'm going to miss the way she always knew the outcome of
|
|||
|
each Matlock."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
10> "The woman predicted Kennedy's assassination, for cryin' out
|
|||
|
loud -- you'd think she'd have known how hideous she'd look
|
|||
|
in that dress."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
9> "I spoke with Jeane this morning. She wants me to have
|
|||
|
her BMW."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
8> "Wait, I'm seeing it -- yes! The number 8 entry on tomorrow's
|
|||
|
Top Five List will be a self-referential psychic quote thing
|
|||
|
by Alexander Clemens of San Francisco."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
7> "I see a world plunged in darkness. What the--? Hey!
|
|||
|
FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 22 17 Feb 1997
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Somebody, get me outta this box!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
6> "She looks so supernatural."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
5> "Since we all know what the eulogy's going to be, let's cut
|
|||
|
right to the coffee and sweet rolls."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4> "I see a drunken reception in my near future."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3> "Light as a feather, stiff as a board... light as a feather,
|
|||
|
stiff as a board..."
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2> "Wait, I'm seeing... yes, I'm seeing... worms!"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
and the Number 1 Thing Overheard at Psychic Jeane Dixon's Funeral...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1> "Who knew?"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[ This list copyright 1997 by Chris White and Ziff-Davis ]
|
|||
|
[ *To forward or repost, please include this section.* ]
|
|||
|
[ The Top Five List top5@walrus.com www.topfive.com ]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Selected from 79 submissions from 28 contributors.
|
|||
|
Today's Top Five List authors are:
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
George Olson, Colorado Springs, CO -- 1 (10th #1)
|
|||
|
Lev L. Spiro, Los Angeles, CA -- 2
|
|||
|
Marianne Tatom, Austin, TX -- 3
|
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Jason Anderson, Birmingham, AL -- 12 (Rookie!)
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Ruminations & Ponderances
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One night I walked into the kitchen and found Grandma
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getting ready to cut up Anna Chin-Williams' family.
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"GRANDMA!" I cried, "You said we were having
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*Paul Paternoster* tonight!!" She replied,
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"No, the dog is having Paul Paternoster!"
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Boy, did we ever laugh about that one.
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(Thanks to Bill Muse)
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One night while I was enjoying Grandma's dog a l*orange,
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I mentioned that Paul Paternoster's family actually ate CHICKEN!
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Grandma replied, "I guess for some people, nothing's sacred."
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There wasn't much to laugh about that night.
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(Thanks to Anna Chin-Williams)
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NOTICES
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Future History
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29 Feb 1997
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Nothing will happen on this day.
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17 May 1997
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Independence Day, Norway.
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25 May 1997
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Independence Day, Argentina.
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6 Jun 1997
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National Commemoration Day, Sweden.
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11 Jun 1997
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Independence Day, Russia.
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1 Jul 1997
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Canada Day - Happy Birthday Canada.
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13 Oct 1997
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Thanksgiving Day, Canada.
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1 Dec 1997
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World AIDS Day.
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10 Dec 1997
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Nobel Day, Sweden.
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12 Jan 1998
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HAL 9000 is one year old today.
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22 May 1998
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Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
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1 Dec 1998
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Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
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Tom Jennings.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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Latest Greatest Software Versions
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by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
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I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm -fairly- sure that all of the
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utilities listed in the old format for OS/2 aren't used any more. I
|
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could easily be wrong, though. If I am, all you have to do to keep
|
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a specific utility in the list is send me netmail by the 28th.
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Fair warning: Macintosh, Amiga, and Atari sections are close behind.
|
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|
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Currently the old format takes up 45% of the list. I expect that to
|
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drop to well under 40% by the 3 Mar 97 issue and to under 25% by 7
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Apr 97.
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Phased out this week: "Xenix/Unix 386 -- Other Utilities" Section
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Phase-out highlights:
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This week: "OS/2 Systems" Section
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Deadline for info: 28 Feb 1997.
|
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Last week: "Tandy Color Computer 3 (OS-9 Level II)" Section
|
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Deadline for info: 21 Feb 1997.
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-=- Snip -=-
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Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
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OS Platform :
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Software package name :
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Version :
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Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
|
|||
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Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
|
|||
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Author / Support staff contact name :
|
|||
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Author / Support staff contact node :
|
|||
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Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
|
|||
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|
|||
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Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
|
|||
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Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
|
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|
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-=- Snip -=-
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MS-DOS:
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|
|||
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
|
|||
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ALLFIX 4.40 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
|
|||
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Announcer 1.1 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
|
|||
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BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
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BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
|
|||
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BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
|
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|||
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|||
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
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CheckPnt 1.0 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
|
|||
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FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
|
|||
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FastEcho/16 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE16
|
|||
|
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
|
|||
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FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
|
|||
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FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
|
|||
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GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
|
|||
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
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GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
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Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
|
|||
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ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
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InfoMail 1.11 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
|
|||
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InfoMail/386 1.20 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
|
|||
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InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
|
|||
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InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
|
|||
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InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
|
|||
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IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
|
|||
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JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
|
|||
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Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
|
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Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
|
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JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
|
|||
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JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
|
|||
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MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
|
|||
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Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
|
|||
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Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
|
|||
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McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
|
|||
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MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
|
|||
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Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
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Opus CBCS 1.73a B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
|
|||
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O/T-Track 2.63a O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
|
|||
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PcMerge 2.7 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
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PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
|
|||
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QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
|
|||
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RAR 2.00 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
|
|||
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RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
|
|||
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Silver Xpress
|
|||
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Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
|
|||
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Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
|
|||
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Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
|
|||
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Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
|
|||
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StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
|
|||
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StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
|
|||
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T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
|
|||
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Terminate 4.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
|
|||
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
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TriBBS 10.0 B S Patrick Driscoll 1:372/19 TRIBBS
|
|||
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TriDog 10.0 M S Patrick Driscoll 1:372/19 TRIDOG
|
|||
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TriToss 10.0 T S Patrick Driscoll 1:372/19 TRITOSS
|
|||
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WaterGate 0.92 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
|
|||
|
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
|
|||
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WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
|
|||
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xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
|
|||
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XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
|
|||
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|
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|
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OS/2:
|
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
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ALLFIX/2 1.10 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
|
|||
|
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
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FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
|
|||
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FleetStreet 1.19 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
|
|||
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GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
|||
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
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GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
|||
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ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
|
|||
|
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
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PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
|||
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RAR 2.00 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
|
|||
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Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
|
|||
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
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XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
|
|||
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|
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|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
|||
|
FrontDoor APX 1.10 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Windows (32-bit apps):
|
|||
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
|||
|
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
|
|||
|
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
|||
|
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
|||
|
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
|||
|
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
|
|||
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Msged/NT 4.00 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGNT400.ZIP
|
|||
|
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
|
|||
|
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
|
|||
|
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
|
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Unix:
|
|||
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
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|
|||
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ifmail 2.9 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
|
|||
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ifmail-tx ...tx7.9 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
|
|||
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Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
|
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Amiga:
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
CrashMail 1.23 T X Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHMAIL
|
|||
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CrashTick 1.1 O F Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHTICK
|
|||
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DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
|
|||
|
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
|
|||
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Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
|||
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
|||
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|
|||
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Atari:
|
|||
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
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|
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|
|||
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BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl1 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
|
|||
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|
|||
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Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
|
|||
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C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
|
|||
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be listed by the first match.
|
|||
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|
|||
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Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
|
|||
|
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source
|
|||
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|
|||
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Old info from: 01/27/92
|
|||
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MS-DOS Systems Other Utilities Other Utilities
|
|||
|
-------------- Name Version Name Version
|
|||
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-------------------- --------------------
|
|||
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Network Mailers 2DAPoint 1.50* Netsex 2.00b
|
|||
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Name Version 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18 OFFLINE 1.35
|
|||
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-------------------- ARCAsim 2.31 Oliver 1.0a
|
|||
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D'Bridge 1.30 ARCmail 3.00* OSIRIS CBIS 3.02
|
|||
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Dreamer 1.06 Areafix 1.20 PKInsert 7.10
|
|||
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Dutchie 2.90c ConfMail 4.00 PolyXarc 2.1a
|
|||
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Milqtoast 1.00 Crossnet 1.5 QM 1.00a
|
|||
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PreNM 1.48 DOMAIN 1.42 QSort 4.04
|
|||
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SEAdog 4.60 DEMM 1.06 RAD Plus 2.11
|
|||
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SEAmail 1.01 DGMM 1.06 Raid 1.00
|
|||
|
TIMS 1.0(mod8) DOMAIN 1.42 RBBSMail 18.0
|
|||
|
EEngine 0.32 ScanToss 1.28
|
|||
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Compression EMM 2.11* ScMail 1.00
|
|||
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Utilities EZPoint 2.1 ScEdit 1.12
|
|||
|
Name Version FGroup 1.00 Sirius 1.0x
|
|||
|
-------------------- FidoPCB 1.0s@ SLMail 2.15C
|
|||
|
ARC 7.12 FNPGate 2.70 StarLink 1.01
|
|||
|
ARJ 2.20 GateWorks 3.06e TagMail 2.41
|
|||
|
LHA 2.13 GMail 2.05 TCOMMail 2.2
|
|||
|
PAK 2.51 GMD 3.10 Telemail 1.5*
|
|||
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PKPak 3.61 GMM 1.21 TGroup 1.13
|
|||
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PKZip 1.10 GROUP 2.23 TIRES 3.11
|
|||
|
GUS 1.40 TMail 1.21
|
|||
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NodeList Utilities Harvey's Robot 4.10 TosScan 1.00
|
|||
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Name Version HeadEdit 1.18 UFGATE 1.03
|
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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the Editor's new
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
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A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
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FIDONEWS 14-07 Page 38 17 Feb 1997
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1:1/23 [1:18/14] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
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Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area 18. It
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is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
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from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
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also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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