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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 13, Number 34 19 August 1996
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
| | (*) | \ )) | Christopher Baker 1:374/14 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| submissions=> cbaker84@digital.net |
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SEE FIDONEWS AT http://www.geocities.com/athens/6894/
Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
A light Issue is not a trend again? ...................... 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
IC-selection .. a candidate .............................. 2
So what if the Nodelist is shrinking? .................... 4
3. FIDONET HISTORY .......................................... 6
Whatever happened to Fido? FidoNet History from 1985 ..... 6
4. REVIEWS .................................................. 8
Six Mail Processors Reviewed [I] ......................... 8
5. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 12
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 229 ...... 12
6. NET HUMOR ................................................ 13
Secrets of Life? ......................................... 13
7. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 15
Do you know what it's like to be Kabongged? .............. 15
8. QUESTION OF THE WEEK ..................................... 17
Why don't we have an up-to-date Nodelist? ................ 17
9. NOTICES .................................................. 18
AT&Ters Save big money 24 HOURS a day U.S. to overseas ... 18
Future History ........................................... 18
10. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................ 20
Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 20
11. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ..................................... 27
This Space intentionally left blank? ..................... 27
And more!
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 1 19 Aug 1996
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EDITORIAL
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This will not be a large edition of FidoNews. I hope we're not going
back to the Editorial being the only thing in the newsletter.
FIDONEWS Echo is now fully connected over the Z1 Backbone. Reports
from Z2 say it is also getting over there. I haven't heard anything
from Z3-Z6.
Speaking of which, WHERE is the Zone 3 Nodelist update? Hello, ZC3!
Do you need someone to move the files from down under? We're having
a long-distance sale at AT&T [see article later] up here and there
shouldn't be any reason for this interminable delay in updating,
should there be?
There is an active seeker for the IC slot reporting in this week's
Issue. We have been completely stagnant on that front for WAY too
long so maybe some action will be generated.
Stop putting off that article! What ever happened to all those ASCII
artists we used to have? Send in some Comix! I can keep recycling the
old cow pictures but there's only so much mileage in that clunker.
Whatever happened to Doc Logger? Who else wants to write a weekly
column? FidoNetting minds want to know!
And how about you FidoNet codgers? Let's have some of those .BIOs for
the 'youngsters'. [grin]
C.B.
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 2 19 Aug 1996
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ARTICLES
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IC-selection .. a candidate ..
By Ward Dossche
2:292/854
Colleagues,
A number of RC's in Zone-2 as well as 2 ex-ZC's have requested
me to become a candidate in the IC-selection process.
We have now been without an IC for over a year, the (s)election-
process has come to a grinding halt without any conclusion and
this is now beginning to harm Fidonet.
I have considered the plea made to me and hereby confirm that I
am a candidate as of now.
Fidonet used to follow from very close the technical evolutions
in the telecom-world. I don't see this happening anymore, at
least not in an organised way.
Further it seems we are being overtaken by events, i.e. large
numbers of nodes disappearing from the net and moving to other
quarters, presumably the internet.
Now this in itself needs not to be a negative thing. Fidonet has
known years of growth beyond expectation and what we are
noticing could very well be just a trimming-down to real
proportions, i.e. shedding dead wood. In this case losing a
number of nodes does not mean a loss of quality.
Now is there still a life for Fidonet, is there a need for it?
Undoubtedly the advent of the internet has meant a change and
turning the clock back will be impossible.
But why consider this a dissadvantage and not turn it into an
advantage?
It has been argued in the past that Fido should not get its
hands dirty on the internet, but is that really the case? Is
sticking to PSTN-access not rather a symptom of a lack of vision
and a bigger danger for the net than embracing the goodies the
internet and other oportunities could mean?
What goodies?
What about nodes with full IP-access? Impossible? They already
exist and work wonderfully well ... ask Basil Dolmatov, he'll
tell you all about it.
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 3 19 Aug 1996
What about HAM-access between Fido-nodes? It exists!
What about X25-access between Fido-nodes? It exists!
But these nodes remain hidden as 'Pvt'.
If we have an advantage over the internet then it is our
flexibility to adapt our technology to other transmission modes.
There are a bunch of other items that need tackling such as :
* The officially unresolved status of ZyXEL-flags;
* The unresolved status of V34-systems;
* What about cellular nodes ... they're there already;
* Worldwide implementation of proper ISDN-flags;
* Stopping the Zones from drifting apart;
* Everything that affects connectability, communicativity, and
connectivity?
* What about ZMH- and FTS-0001-compliancy in an environment
which is technically more and more unable to offer direct
connects between different modulation-, transmission- and/or
access-methods?
Everyone with their heads in the right spot will come to the
conclusion that Fidonet in future will have to respond to
demands, not necessarily purely technical even, beyond the ones
that are now catered for by present structures.
Do we have to close eyes and rule out any technical evolution
because that's what we're bound to do by a policy which is
becoming more and more obsolete?
Here comes another IC-challenge ... changing the current policy,
an exercise which hasn't had any success over the past ... erhhh
... 7 years.
So, yes, I am willing to be a candidate in the IC-selection
process. But mind you, not at any price. If it is to be the
object of a bashing-contest then I'll gracefully bow out.
If anyone wants information on what I stand for and think which
direction we should move in, then please consider this text as
the memorandum to Fidonet on the minimum programme which I think
an IC should commit him/herself to.
I know the IC-(s)election is a "ZC-only"-matter but it is my
feeling that there is no reason to remain secretive about this.
Hence the publication of this message/mail/announcement in
FIDONEWS, REGCON (Does it function? Is it alive?), REGCON.EUR
(Zone-2 only), ENET.SYSOP (Zone-2 only) and ZCC (ZC's and
invited guests only). Please crosspost to where-ever deemed
necessary.
Kind regards to all,
Ward Dossche
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 4 19 Aug 1996
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It's no big deal if the Nodelist shrinks
Date: 15 Aug 96 14:50:00
From: Christopher Baker
To: Dave Hatch
Subj: shrinking Nodelist normal [Was: Re: Nodelist evolution]
______________________________________________________________________
> R>>> Please note that despite a 20% decline in grunt sysops,
DH> May not be. We just got a shock - one of our nets disappeared
DH> completely, with one poor soul left looking around and plaintively
DH> asking "where did everybody go?" It didn't show at all until this
DH> week - the net in question lost the NC first, so no updates came
DH> in to show the departures.
it's a cooperative venture this FidoNet thing. those appointed/elected
to the Coordinator slots are only volunteers and in any volunteer
organization there are those who do it with vigor and those who don't.
if each level above pays no attention to the level below then sooner
or later surprises such as the one you've related occur. it is
inevitable.
DH> Wonder how much of THAT is going on?
some folks are concerned that FidoNet is shrinking. so what's wrong
with that? for years all they did was moan about how the Nodelist was
getting too big. FidoNet Nodes are not an endangered species. the
falloff doesn't begin to approach the original growth rate. it's no
big deal.
i'd say it was a normal shakeout after years of unchecked expansion.
in the dim time, it took a certain amount of technical skill and
determination to put up a FidoNet Node. the mechanism for granting
Node numbers was cumbersome and slow. originally, it was just a hobby
for geeks who liked to play with computers and modems; sending a few
msgs or files around. it grew then, too, and lost Nodes but with
smaller numbers overall it didn't seem like a big deal.
i propose it's still no big deal. the gross rates are probably
comparable. the ease with which one can start up a Node now makes it
simpler for dilettanti to crank up a system, get it in the Nodelist,
find out it's too much trouble or expense, and then quit. many of
those who joined up in the past expansion were here only for the
Echomail fix or to make a buck. a lot of them have moved on to the
Internet for that sort of thing. FidoNet never needed them in the
first place. they didn't contribute to the hobby; just to the size of
the Nodelist. let them leave. so what?
it's a fundamental law of nature that what goes up must come down. the
artificial expansion of the Nodelist is bound to level off and then
seek a real level. i submit that's where we are now. this 'shrinkage'
that has some in a tizzy is a natural and normal effect and nothing to
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be concerned about.
the only thing we need to worry about is that some folks who want to
join aren't getting the opportunity because of Coordinators who have
retired in place without notice. the only way to shake that up is to
get Coordinators at upper levels who understand the hobby and commit
to their responsibilities. when each level up is paying attention to
the level below, Nodes and Nets DON'T get lost.
the rest is just hysteria. [grin]
TTFN.
Chris
Origin: Rights On!-Real FidoNet Sysops?-Titusville_FL_USA (1:374/14)
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 6 19 Aug 1996
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FIDONET HISTORY
=================================================================
[Original filedate 12 Apr 85 - Note the single part Node number.]
Creating FIDO Source
by
Robert Briggs, SYSOP, FIDO node 464
I, at least, am willing to take on Tom Jennings'
challenge to create source public domain source code for
FIDO. Therefore, I am creating a special section on my
board for FIDO internal use only , devoted to handling
source code for a FIDO re-write. This section will be
available to anyone who sends me a FIDO-NET message - just
leave your log on name and desired password in the message.
There are some ground rules that I feel should be
observed. The source should be able to be compiled by
either Lattice 'C', Microsoft 'C' (about the same thing),
or CIi-C86. That means that any features peculiar to
either compiler will have to be stuck in a library of
routines and they have to be duplicated for both
compilers. Since I am the author of the CHEAPWARE c-
function libraries, this is "right up my alley", so to
speak.
FIDO uses both interrupt driven send and receive
routines. I have have only the interrupt driven send
routines available for both compilers. I will put the
code up on the board and let people somewhat more skilled
in assembly language "hack" on it. FIDO also implements
several protocalls, such as KERMIT and TELELINK that I
know nothing about. I am sure that there is a WIZ or two
out there that could write something. Please note that I
am not offering to write FIDO, just take on the
responsibility of keeping track of a multitude of routines
that need to be done before we even have a good start on a
re-write. This is no small job, imagine several hundred
people submitting changes and ideas....
Anyway, everyones feed-back, comments, suggestions,
gripes, etc. are welcome at my node. One thing that I do
insist on, the SYSOP must be able to sign onto the local
terminal just like a remote user, and without having to
take FIDO down. I have implemented a rudimentary version
of this feature, and a (extremely) rough copy of a program
that answers the phone, sends the file WELCOME.DAT out the
modem, and then asks for the users name. Not much I will
admit, but a start.
Please respond to the programmers technical BBS,
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 7 19 Aug 1996
Pro_Tech_BBS, node 464. The number is (801) 264-8290. I
would like to currently limit access to the section to
those who can send me FIDO-NET mail. Others later? It's
all up to the FIDO network SYSOPs. I would hate to have
to cancel this whole thing for lack of interest, knowing
full well that TOM gets many requests for info about the
source code. Must be some interest out there somewhere...
[Was there?] Ed.
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 8 19 Aug 1996
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REVIEWS
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Six Mail Processors Reviewed [I]
Damian Walker, 2:2502/666
This article starts of a six-part series which aims to bring to
light the capabilities of six mail processors (or echomail tossers, if
you prefer). These mail processors are FastEcho, GEcho, FMail, IMail,
JMail and Squish.
Each individual article will look at a single mail processor,
examining its strengths and weaknesses, and giving the results of a
few tests. Rather than list and discuss every feature of every
package (many features being common to all of them), I shall
concentrate on the things which make each package stand out from all,
or most, of the rest.
I will try to keep my personal preferences out of the reviews
(since I am a user of one of the programs myself). The final article
will also contain a feature table to help you decide which of the six
programs is most appropriate for your requirements.
The software will be evaluated on an ageing IBM PS/2 386, and I
will be looking as much at the supporting documentation as the program
itself. I will be testing each program for speed and stability, and a
compiled feature table will be included in the last article of the
series.
The speed tests will be performed on a copy of my normal personal
daily echomail packet (about 50k), rather than on the larger packets
supplied to my node. The reason for this is stability and
consideration for my own points, who would have good reason to get
irate if their mail was interrupted because of my experiments.
Due to the nature of my humble hardware, I am limited to reviewing
the DOS versions of software, albeit in 386 DPMI versions where
available. Bear this in mind when I quote mail processing speeds
(this machine is a 386DX/20, with a Norton speed index of around 17).
DISCLAIMER :-)
Although I will make a best attempt to make sure these articles
are accurate, I cannot guarantee anything. For instance, certain
features of the software may not be easily tested or examined in
detail, so I will be taking a lot of information about the packages
from their own documentation.
When choosing your mail processor, it is a good idea to make a
thorough examination of it yourself before installing it ready for
permanent use at your system. Make sure it has the features _you_
need before committing yourself.
The speed tests are taken from the timestamps in the log files
produced by the software, so they should be as accurate as my system
clock (which is reasonably accurate), but make sure you take note of
the version I'm testing; don't compare speeds of 386 and 8086 versions
when making your choice.
On to the reviews themselves...
FASTECHO
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 9 19 Aug 1996
FastEcho is an extremely popular mail processor written by Tobias
Burchardt of 2:2448/400. It is available for DOS machines (in 8086
and 386 DPMI versions), and also for OS/2. The version I am looking
at is 1.45a, the 8086 DOS version. There may be versions for other
platforms that I do not know about.
First Impressions
I must admit to some prior knowledge of this package. Some local
nodes are very enthusiastic about FastEcho, and a friend of mine often
tacitly suggests that I change over to FastEcho from GEcho, my mail
processor of choice. Let's see how this program has gained such a
reputation.
FastEcho is quite a large package with quite an impressive range
of features. It is shareware, with the point version costing $15 and
the full node version costing $25. The evaluation version lasts for a
limited time period (around 1 month) before it stops working.
Upon first looking at the package, it boasts a sizeable
executable, which in itself means nothing, and a rather large document
file (too large to load up in QEdit-- time to learn how to use LIST).
So at least we know that the documentation is comprehensive.
Moving on to the other files in the directory, we see that
FastEcho includes a setup tool-- a boon to those who do not like
configuring their software with text files. It also contains another
executable for the message base tools.
On Further Examination...
It is rather difficult to point out features which make FastEcho
stand out from the other mail processors. Most of FastEcho's
features, even the advanced ones, are shared with one or more of the
other packages.
This is no bad thing, however, when you consider that FastEcho's
feature count is high; that is, although it has few exclusive
features, the number of features it does have makes it a very good
all-rounder.
Lets look at some of the features where FastEcho excels.
The message base support is excellent. FastEcho supports Hudson,
JAM, Squish and *.MSG echomail areas fully; the only other package
reviewed here which can boast this versatility with message bases is
IMail.
Although not unusual, the cross-platform availability is a good
point for the package. As has already been mentioned, versions are
available for DOS, DOS DPMI and OS/2.
The full screen message toss is something which will appeal to
those who like a more aesthetically pleasing screen display. Rather
than the usual ASCII scrolling screen display, FastEcho has the option
of a full screen display where progress is shown using percentage bars
and fixed-position screen fields, rather like a BBS download or a
mailer file transfer.
Another useful feature is FastEcho's ability to automatically add
areas when new mail arrives. This differs from the more widespread
feature, where an echomail processor adds a new area while forwarding
a request from a downlink. FastEcho can add a new mail area when mail
arrives in that area, as an alternative to using a bad echo area.
It can also automatically update configuration files for other
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 10 19 Aug 1996
software, such as FM (the message editor that comes with FrontDoor) or
RemoteAccess BBS. This feature is invaluable for points, where an
echo can be added to all the necessary software with only the effort
of an areafix message, and it is also valuable for BBS sysops who want
to add echoes to their system with the minimum of fuss.
Particularly impressive, to my mind, is the carbon copy feature.
Most mail processors and point systems have some way of copying
personal mail into a specific message area, allowing you to give it
priority. FastEcho takes this feature a little further, allowing you
to flag messages according to From, To or Subject fields, or even
contents of message kludges.
Such a versatile system has many uses; you can prioritize messages
not just to yourself, but also from those whose messages have
particular importance. Software authors like myself can keep tabs on
messages about (or written using) our own software, no matter what the
echo.
Another useful feature is the ability to shell out to other
software during the mail toss process. FastEcho has the ability to
shell to other software before packets are processed, and afterwards
as well.
The final point which impresses me with the program itself is the
interface of the full screen setup program. This uses a pull-down
menu interface which is mouse compatible; this is not often needed, or
even noticed, on machines in which every available serial port is
needed for a modem, but some of us are lucky enough to have a PS/2
mouse and port :-)
The setup program sports a useful context-sensitive help system,
which has occasional hypertext references to other topics.
Unfortunately, there appears to be no central help index, which
thwarted my attempts at casual browsing.
The documentation to this package, as has been mentioned already,
is very large, and very comprehensive. Although I have not had time
to read it all, I have found that the manual lives up to my own
expectations for documentation (which are probably unreasonably high).
After the initial licensing agreement and introduction, there is a
length tutorial showing you in great detail how to set up the
software. This tutorial is around 100 pages, so be ready to settle
down for a good long read.
After the tutorial there are two sections for reference. The
first details with the FASTECHO executable itself, and explains in
detail all the options and commands for that program. The second
section is for the FEUTIL program, which contains message base
utilities such as purge/pack, post and sort.
In addition to these sections, there are miscellaneous sections
about things such as 386 considerations and areafix messages, and at
the end of the manual is a full, clear index.
Speed Test
Despite its name, FastEcho's speed was slightly disappointing in
the tests I ran. The fact that this is not the 386 version of the
program does have to be taken into account, yet the 4-year old
evaluation copy of GEcho proved to be slightly faster than FastEcho
for Hudson and *.MSG areas. Whether this says more about the speed of
GEcho or of FastEcho is a matter on which I wouldn't like to
speculate. Using a newly-created Hudson message base, FastEcho
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 11 19 Aug 1996
tossed 91 inbound messages in 15 seconds (its own stats make this
10 messages
per second, taking into account the time it takes to unarchive the
packets). With JAM the time was 20 seconds, Squish took 21 seconds
and *.MSG areas took 14 seconds to process.
These figures are best to compare with GEcho, since it is unfair
to compare the speeds for the 8086 version of FastEcho given here with
the 386 versions of FMail and IMail reviewed later. If I can find a
copy of the 386 version of FastEcho locally before the sixth article
in this series I will rerun the tests with that version for the final
feature table.
Summary
I would have no problem recommending FastEcho to anyone. It is
what could be known as a good all-rounder; its automatic handling of
new areas makes it good for points, yet its more advanced mail
handling features make it a good choice for major mail hubs as well.
Next week's FidoNews will (hopefully) see the second article in
this series, in which I take a look at the GEcho mail processor
written by Gerard van der Land.
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 12 19 Aug 1996
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COORDINATORS CORNER
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 229
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
ZC/2
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|Zone|Nl-201|Nodelist-208|Nodelist-215|Nodelist-222|Nodelist-229|%%|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
| 1 | 12897|12786 -111 |12691 -95 |12622 -69 |12530 -92 |40|
| 2 | 16471|16462 -9 |16462 0 |16426 -36 |16408 -18 |52|
| 3 | 1023| 1023 0 | 1023 0 | 1023 0 | 1023 0 | 3|
| 4 | 635| 636 1 | 637 1 | 637 0 | 637 0 | 2|
| 5 | 99| 99 0 | 99 0 | 99 0 | 99 0 | 0|
| 6 | 1228| 1018 -210 | 1018 0 | 1020 2 | 1020 0 | 3|
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
| 32353|32024 -329 |31930 -94 |31827 -103 |31717 -110 |
+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 13 19 Aug 1996
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NET HUMOR
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Secrets of Life?
From: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: "Baker, Christopher" <cbaker84@digital.net (Christopher
Baker)>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 15:19:53 -0500
Reply-To: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: A few observations on Life...]
On Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:01:50 -0500, jenniferrose wrote:
From: Roshan Sembacuttiaratchy <semba@sri.lanka.net>
Subject: A few observations on Life...
* Life is what happens to you while you are making other plans
* If nobody uses it, there's a reason
* You get the most of what you need the least
* You are never really successful until someone claims he sat beside
you at school
* To err is human, to admit it, superhuman
* A modest man is usually admired, if people ever hear of him
* It is not real work unless you would much rather be doing something
else
* When the plane you are on is late, the plane you want to transfer
to is on time
* Trouble - The supply exceeds the demand
* You cannot successfully determine beforehand which side of the
bread to butter
* Anything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough
* It works better if you plug it in
* As soon as you mention something; if it is good, it goes away, if
it is bad, it happens
* Spend sufficient time confirming the need and the need will
disappear
* An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance
* Never let hold of what you've got until you've got hold of
something else
* Eat a live toad the first thing in the morning and nothing worse
will happen to you the rest of the day
* For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism
* It is easier to get forgiveness than permission
* Life is the greatest bargain - we get it for nothing
* Needs are a function of what other people have
* If things were left to chance, they'd be better
* If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs,
maybe you just don't understand the situation
* For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it
is always wrong
* If you have watched a TV series only once, and you watch it again,
it will be a rerun of the same episode
* It is better to be approximately right than precisely wrong
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 14 19 Aug 1996
* Never take a cross country trip with a kid who has just learned to
whistle
* The trouble with being on time is that no one is around to verify
it
* Do you ever feel like your life is in instant replay?
* It takes two to tango but one has to bend backwards
* Life begins at 40, but only a fool waits that long
* The good thing about growing old is you only have to do it once
* Calories don't count; they multiply
* Life is a grindstone; whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
depends on what you are made of
* You're never as good as everyone tells you when you win, and you're
never as bad as they say when you lose
* Children aren't happy with nothing to ignore. And that's what
parents are created for
* When things are bad, we take comfort in the though that they could
always be worse. And when they are, we find hope in the thought
that things are so bad they have to get better
* I'd enjoy the day more if it started later
* There's nothing so irritating as to have someone go on talking when
you're interrupting.
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COMIX IN ASCII
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Quick Draw McGraw this ain't!
Date: 11 Apr 93 13:41:20
From: Kay Shapero
To: Aaron Goldblatt
Subj: Threads
_____________________________________________________________________
On <Apr 10 02:39>, Aaron Goldblatt (1:130/103.1) wrote to All:
AG>A couple months ago someone posted a text file they use to
AG>"kabong" worn out threads and declare 'em temporarily off topic.
AG>Could you please repost it? Gays in the military needs kabonging
AG>in INTERUSER ... thanks.
That was me - I figured getting whomped with a guitar fit the theme of
the FILK echo, it being one of the most popular filk instruments.
Here you go; let me know if it works.
\ ! /
_ _
O %==(_^_)
\!/ O
! \!/
/ \ !
/ \
KABONGGGG!!
This is followed by one of the following paragraphs: if it's off topic
to start with I use:
This thread has been officially KABONGED by reason of being off topic.
Feel free to continue this discussion via netmail, but keep it off the
echo. Thank you for your consideration!
If it's ON topic but developing into a flamewar (or everybody just
repeating themselves without anyone adding anything new), I use:
This thread has been officially KABONGED due to excess argument. Feel
free to continue this discussion via netmail, or to reopen it in a
month's time after all parties have had time to cool down.
Ye Moderator, and El Kabong impersonator, Kay Shapero
I don't warn folks when the month is up, I just keep track myself.
That way if people REALLY think the subject needs discussion someone
will bring it up and otherwise, why should *I* poke it up again? :->
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 16 19 Aug 1996
Origin: StormGate Aerie/West LA Netmail Hub/HST (1:102/524)
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 17 19 Aug 1996
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QUESTION OF THE WEEK
=================================================================
In these days of Internet access and reduced long-distance rates from
competition amongst the carriers it seems incongruous that we cannot
get six individuals to coordinate the most basic function in FidoNet.
The Question of the Week is:
Who is clogging up the bitstream and when are we going to get a fully
integrated and timely Nodelist?
As always, send in those answers as .ARTs, Netmail, email, or carrier
pigeon if necessary. See the Masthead information for contact points
and methods.
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NOTICES
=================================================================
HOT Info for AT&T TrueWorld customers!
[from 374SYSOP Echo]
Msg # 64
Date: 14 Aug 96 21:16:39
From: Christopher Baker
To: All
Subj: attention AT&T TrueWorlders!
______________________________________________________________________
i was just asking AT&T about rate windows for Argentina so i could
send something to ZC4 cheap and they told me about a new promotion you
might want to get aboard right smartly.
they call it World on Sale and starting tonight at midnight and
running until 9 Feb 97, all overseas calls will be drastically reduced
AND these reductions are good 24 HOURS a day!
9 cents to Canada. 41 cents to Japan. etc!
you have to call the AT&T TrueWorld folks [check your statement for
the number. i got transferred by the AT&T operator.] and tell them you
want to sign up. there are no additional costs but they aren't allowed
to link you without your permission.
they didn't send me a notice but they're famous for summer promotions
without notice to their customers. the operator told me it's been on
t.v. [grin]
check it out if you do a lot of overseas calling.
TTFN.
Chris
Origin: Rights On! - 'Just a Node' - Titusville_FL_USA (1:374/14)
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Future History
12 Oct 1996
General Elections, New Zealand.
29 Oct 1996
Republic Day, Turkey.
5 Nov 1996
Election day, U.S.A.
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 19 19 Aug 1996
5 Nov 1996
Guy Fawkes Day, England.
1 Dec 1996
Twelfth Anniversary of FidoNews Volume 1, Issue 1.
12 Dec 1996
Constitution Day, Russia
26 Jan 1997
Australia Day, Australia.
6 Feb 1997
Waitangi Day, New Zealand.
16 Feb 1997
Eleventh Anniversary of invention of Echomail by Jeff Rush.
29 Feb 1997
Nothing will happen on this day.
11 Jun 1997
Independence Day, Russia
26 Jul 1997
FidoNews Editor turns 48.
6 Dec 1997
Gallileo takes close-ups of Europa to resolution
of 11 meters at the north pole.
1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 20 19 Aug 1996
=================================================================
FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
=================================================================
Latest Greatest Software Versions
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
More netmail, more updates. Things do seem to be moving along. I've
received a couple of good lists of authors; I've beat the bushes some,
gotten a few responses so far. Each one seems to require some change
to the format: a new F or S type, or it won't fit in the allotted
space. Of course, it could be worse. At least I'm getting the info in
and organized. ;-)
I've gotten some suggestions on how to "phase out" old entries. Of
them, my favorite is to highlight one per week. If anyone at all
writes in with info, even just to say "I still use it", I'll leave
it in. If nobody writes in, I'll drop it.
Highlight of the week: ADTBBS 1.50. Deadline for info: 30 Aug 1996.
Caveats: Obviously, I'll re-add dropped packages upon receipt of up
to date info. In a month or so, I'll review the progress and see if
we need to increase the number of items to be phased out per week. My
goal is to only drop packages that aren't being used at all any more.
Errata: I misspelled Pablos Saratxaga's last name last week. It
should be fixed now.
-=- Snip -=-
Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
OS Platform :
Software package name :
Version :
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
Author / Support staff contact name :
Author / Support staff contact node :
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
-=- Snip -=-
MS-DOS (pending verification or other work on my end):
Remove Tritel 2.0; Add TriBBS 10.0, TriToss 10.0, and TriDog 10.0
by Mark Goodwin 1:328/104, shareware
Update: D-Bridge 1.58, BinkleyTerm 2.60, ARJ 2.50,
ARC 6.02 (7.12 commercial), PKZIP 2.04g
Investigate: FrontDoor 2.20 or 2.30 (varies: 2.02.nc, 2.12.sw, etc.)
Xlax 2.54 (need clarification, XlaxDiff is up to 2.57)
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 21 19 Aug 1996
Add: Announcer by Peter Karlsson, 2:204/145.42
MORON and QRATIO by Melle Koning, 2:281/731.29
MS-DOS:
Program Name Version F S Contact Name Node Magic Name
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 GIGO
InfoMail 1.11 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
InterPCB 1.52 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 INTERPCB
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
Opus CBCS 1.73a B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
PlatinumXpress 1.1 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX11TD.ZIP
Silver Xpress
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
Reader 4.3 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR43.ZIP
Windows (32-bit apps):
Program Name Version F S Contact Name Node Magic Name
----------------------------------------------------------------------
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
Unix:
Program Name Version F S Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ifmail 2.8e M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
ifmail-tx 2.8e-tx7.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
F: B-BBS, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser, C-Compression,
O-Other. Note: Multifunction will be listed by the first match.
S: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
X-Crippleware, G-Source
Old info from: 01/27/92
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MS-DOS Systems
--------------
BBS Software NodeList Utilities Compression
Name Version Name Version Utilities
-------------------- -------------------- Name Version
ADTBBS 1.50@ EditNL 4.00 --------------------
Aurora 1.32b FDND 1.10 ARC 7.12
DMG 2.93 MakeNL 2.31 ARJ 2.20
DreamBBS 1.05 Parselst 1.33 LHA 2.13
Fido/FidoNet 12.21 Prune 1.40 PAK 2.51
Genesis Deluxe 3.2 SysNL 3.14 PKPak 3.61
GSBBS 3.02 XlatList 2.90 PKZip 1.10
Kitten 1.01 XlaxNode/Diff 2.53
Lynx 1.30
Maximus-CBCS 2.00
Merlin 1.39n Other Utilities(A-M) Other Utilities(N-Z)
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 22 19 Aug 1996
Oracomm 5.M.6P@ Name Version Name Version
Oracomm Plus 6.E@ -------------------- --------------------
PCBoard 14.5a 2DAPoint 1.50* Netsex 2.00b
Phoenix 1.07* 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18 OFFLINE 1.35
ProBoard 1.20* ARCAsim 2.31 Oliver 1.0a
QuickBBS 2.75 ARCmail 3.00* OSIRIS CBIS 3.02
RBBS 17.3b Areafix 1.20 PKInsert 7.10
RemoteAccess 1.11* ConfMail 4.00 PolyXarc 2.1a
SimplexBBS 1.05 Crossnet 1.5 QM 1.00a
SLBBS 2.15C* DOMAIN 1.42 QSort 4.04
Socrates 1.11 DEMM 1.06 RAD Plus 2.11
SuperBBS 1.12* DGMM 1.06 Raid 1.00
SuperComm 0.99 DOMAIN 1.42 RBBSMail 18.0
TAG 2.5g EEngine 0.32 ScanToss 1.28
TBBS 2.1 EMM 2.11* ScMail 1.00
TComm/TCommNet 3.4 EZPoint 2.1 ScEdit 1.12
Telegard 2.7* FGroup 1.00 Sirius 1.0x
TPBoard 6.1 FidoPCB 1.0s@ SLMail 2.15C
TriTel 2.0* FNPGate 2.70 SquishMail 1.00
WildCat! 3.02* GateWorks 3.06e StarLink 1.01
WWIV 4.20 GMail 2.05 TagMail 2.41
XBBS 1.77 GMD 3.10 TCOMMail 2.2
GMM 1.21 Telemail 1.5*
GoldEd 2.31p TGroup 1.13
Network Mailers GROUP 2.23 TIRES 3.11
Name Version GUS 1.40 TMail 1.21
-------------------- Harvey's Robot 4.10 TosScan 1.00
BinkleyTerm 2.50 HeadEdit 1.18 UFGATE 1.03
D'Bridge 1.30 HLIST 1.09 VPurge 4.09e
Dreamer 1.06 IMAIL 1.20 WEdit 2.0@
Dutchie 2.90c ISIS 5.12@ WildMail 2.00
FrontDoor 2.02 Lola 1.01d WMail 2.2
Milqtoast 1.00 Mosaic 1.00b WNode 2.1
PreNM 1.48 MailBase 4.11a@ XRS 4.99
SEAdog 4.60 MSG 4.5* XST 2.3e
SEAmail 1.01 MSGED 2.06 YUPPIE! 2.00
TIMS 1.0(mod8) MsgLnk 1.0c ZmailH 1.25
MsgMstr 2.03a ZSX 2.40
MsgNum 4.16d
MSGTOSS 1.3
OS/2 Systems
------------
BBS Software Other Utilities(A-M Other Utilities(N-Z)
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
Kitten 1.01 ARC 7.12 oMMM 1.52
Maximus-CBCS 2.00 ARC2 6.01 Omail 3.1
SimplexBBS 1.04.02+ ConfMail 4.00 Parselst 1.33
EchoStat 6.0 PKZip 1.02
EZPoint 2.1 PMSnoop 1.30
Network Mailers FGroup 1.00 PolyXOS2 2.1a
Name Version GROUP 2.23 QSort 2.1
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 23 19 Aug 1996
-------------------- LH2 2.11 Raid 1.0
BinkleyTerm 2.50 MSG 4.2 Remapper 1.2
BinkleyTerm(S) 2.50 MsgEd 2.06c SquishMail 1.00
BinkleyTerm/2-MT MsgLink 1.0c Tick 2.0
1.40.02 MsgNum 4.16d VPurge 4.09e
SEAmail 1.01
Xenix/Unix 386
--------------
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
ARC 5.21
C-LHARC 1.00
MsgEd 2.06
|Contact: Willy Paine 1:343/15,| MSGLINK 1.01
|or Eddy van Loo 2:285/406 | oMMM 1.42
Omail 1.00
ParseLst 1.32
Unzip 3.10
VPurge 4.08
Zoo 2.01
QNX
---
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
QTach2 1.09 QMM 0.50s Kermit 2.03
QCP 1.02
NodeList Utilities Archive Utilities QSave 3.6
Name Version Name Version QTTSysop 1.07.1
-------------------- -------------------- SeaLink 1.05
QNode 2.09 Arc 6.02 XModem 1.00
LH 1.00.2 YModem 1.01
Unzip 2.01 ZModem 0.02f
Zoo 2.01
Apple II
--------
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
DDBBS + 8.0* Fruity Dog 2.0 deARC2e 2.1
GBBS Pro 2.1 ProSel 8.70*
ShrinkIt 3.30*
|Contact: Dennis McClain-Furmanski 1:275/42| ShrinkIt GS 1.04
Apple CP/M
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 24 19 Aug 1996
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BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
Daisy 2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Filer 2-D
MsgUtil 2.5
Nodecomp 0.37
PackUser 4
UNARC.Com 1.20
Macintosh
---------
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
FBBS 0.91 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3
Hermes 1.6.1 Tabby 2.2 AreaFix 1.6
Mansion 7.15 Compact Pro 1.30
Precision Sys. 0.95b EventMeister 1.0
Red Ryder Host 2.1 Export 3.21
Telefinder Host Import 3.2
2.12T10 LHARC 0.41
MacArd 0.04
Mantissa 3.21
Point System Mehitable 2.0
Software OriginatorII 2.0
Name Version PreStamp 3.2
-------------------- StuffIt Classic 1.6
Copernicus 1.00 SunDial 3.2
CounterPoint 1.09 TExport 1.92
MacWoof 1.1 TimeStamp 1.6
TImport 1.92
Tset 1.3
TSort 1.0
UNZIP 1.02c
Zenith 1.5
Zip Extract 0.10
Amiga
-----
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
4D-BBS 1.65 BinkleyTerm 1.00 Areafix 1.48
DLG Pro. 0.96b TrapDoor 1.80 AReceipt 1.5
Falcon CBCS 1.00 WelMat 0.44 ChameleonEdit 0.11
Starnet 1.0q@ ConfMail 1.12
TransAmiga 1.07 ElectricHerald 1.66
XenoLink 1.0 Compression FFRS 1.0@
Utilities FileMgr 2.08
Name Version Fozzle 1.0@
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 25 19 Aug 1996
NodeList Utilities -------------------- Login 0.18
Name Version AmigArc 0.23 MessageFilter 1.52
-------------------- booz 1.01 Message View 1.12
ParseLst 1.66 LHARC 1.30 oMMM 1.50
Skyparse 2.30 LhA 1.10 PolyXAmy 2.02
TrapList 1.40 LZ 1.92 RMB 1.30
PkAX 1.00 Roof 46.15
UnZip 4.1 RoboWriter 1.02
Zippy (Unzip) 1.25 Rsh 4.07a
Zoo 2.01 Tick 0.75
TrapToss 1.20
|Contact: Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6| Yuck! 2.02
Atari ST/TT
-----------
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
FIDOdoor/ST 2.5.1 BinkleyTerm 2.40n9 ApplyList 1.00@
FiFo 2.1v The Box 1.95* Burep 1.1
LED ST 1.00 ComScan 1.04
MSGED 1.99 ConfMail 4.10
QuickBBS/ST 1.06* NodeList Utilities Echoscan 1.10
Name Version FDrenum 2.5.2
-------------------- FastPack 1.20
Compression ParseList 1.30 Import 1.14
Utilities EchoFix 1.20 oMMM 1.40
Name Version sTICK/Hatch 5.50 Pack 1.00
-------------------- Trenum 0.10
ARC 6.02
LHARC 2.01i
PackConvert
STZip 1.1*
UnJARST 2.00
WhatArc 2.02
Archimedes
----------
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
ARCbbs 1.61 BinkleyTerm ARC 1.20
Odyssey 0.37 2.06f-wimp !AskFor 1.01
RiscBBS 0.9.85m BatchPacker 1.00
DeLZ 0.01
MailED 0.95
NetFile 1.00
ParseLst 1.30
Raul 1.01
!Spark 2.16
!SparkMail 2.08
!SparkPlug 2.14
UnArj 2.21
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 26 19 Aug 1996
UnZip 3.00
Zip 1.00
Tandy Color Computer 3 (OS-9 Level II)
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BBS Software Compression Utility Other Utilities
Name Version Name Version Name Version
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
RiBBS 2.02+ Ar 1.3 Ascan 1.2
DeArc 5.12 AutoFRL 2.0
OS9Arc 1.0 Bundle 2.2
UnZip 3.10 CKARC 1.1
UnLZH 3.0 EchoCheck 1.01
FReq 2.5a
LookNode 2.00
ParseLST
PReq 2.2
RList 1.03
RTick 2.00
UnBundle 1.4
UnSeen 1.1
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Key to old info:
+ - Netmail Capable (Doesn't Require Additional Mailer Software)
* - Recently Updated Version
@ - New Addition
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
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FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY
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[this must be copied out to a file starting at column 1 or
it won't process under PGP as a valid public-key]
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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Comment: Clear-signing is Electronic Digital Authenticity!
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Pending a formal decision about including 'encrypted' material inside
FidoNews from the Zone Coordinator Council, the guts of the FidoNews
public-key have been removed from this listing.
File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:374/14] or download it from the
Rights On! BBS at 1-407-383-1372 anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone
1 ZMH at 1200-9600+ HST/V32B.
This section will contain only this disclaimer and instructions until
a ZCC decision is forwarded to the Editor.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
Editor: Christopher Baker
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar,
Tom Jennings, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees
"FidoNews Editor"
FidoNet 1:1/23
BBS 1-407-383-1372, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(ds)
more addresses:
Christopher Baker -- 1:374/14, cbaker84@digital.net
cbak.rights@opus.global.org
(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 5921
Titusville, FL 32783-5921
U.S.A.
voice: 1-407-264-2994 [1400-2100 ET only, please]
[1800-0100 UTC/GMT]
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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
FidoNews.
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
Copyright 1996 Christopher Baker. All rights reserved. Duplication
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
the Editor.
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSDnn.LZH] for a
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 29 19 Aug 1996
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
current year [6], i.e., FNWSMAY6.ZIP for all the Issues from May 96.
Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
1 - 12 for 1984 - 1995, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
size from 48K to 1.2M.
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request:
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from ftp.sstar.com
in the FIDONET\FNEWS directory:
FNEWSTOC.ZIP FidoNews, Table of Contents, all issues (1984 - 1995)
FNEWS1.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 1, all issues (1984)
FNEWS2.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 2, all issues (1985)
FNEWS3.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 3, all issues (1986)
FNEWS4.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 4, all issues (1987)
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FNEWS6.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 6, all issues (1989)
FNEWS7.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 7, all issues (1990)
FNEWS8.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 8, all issues (1991)
FNEWS9.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 9, all issues (1992)
FNEWSA.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 10, all issues (1993)
FNEWSB.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 11, all issues (1994)
FNEWSC.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 12, all issues (1995)
FNEWSD01.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 13, Nr. 01 (January 1, 1996)
FNEWSD02.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 13, Nr. 02 (January 8, 1996)
(etc)
FNEWSD31.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 13, Nr. 31 (July 29, 1996)
FNEWSD32.ZIP FidoNews, Vol. 13, Nr. 32 (August 5, 1996)
(etc)
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 11 Megs.
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
1:1/23 [1:374/14] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
Rights On! BBS at 1-407-383-1372 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area 18. It
is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.
*=*=*=*=*
Anyone interested in getting a copy of the INTERNET GATEWAY FAQ may
file-request GISFAQ.ZIP from 1:133/411.0, or send an internet message
to fidofaq@gisatl.fidonet.org. No message or text or subject is
necessary. The address is a keyword that will trigger the automated
response. People wishing to send inquiries directly to David Deitch
FIDONEWS 13-34 Page 30 19 Aug 1996
should now mail to fidonet@gisatl.fidonet.org rather than the
previously listed address.
*=*=*=*=*
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators also have
copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.
"Disagreement is actually necessary,
or we'd all have to get in fights
or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings
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