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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.13 No.12 (18-Mar-1996)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq |
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| please refer to the end of this file. |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 2
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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Da SNooZe................................................... 2
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C I A (1:2623/71)........................................... 3
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Technology Freeze........................................... 4
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TFSN........................................................ 4
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Internet killing Fido? A view from Germany.................. 6
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Modernizing FIDONet......................................... 8
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InterNews Editor?........................................... 9
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The Future of Fidonet as we know it......................... 10
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The future of Fidonet....................................... 11
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Social Constipation Part XXVII.............................. 13
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 16
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 2 18 Mar 1996
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Editorial
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It never ceases to amaze me how someone, when given a gift,
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can complain bitterly that it is not good enough.
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We have another article by C.I.A. today, denigrating the
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new fido/internet gate because there are rules she does not
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like. The rules are there for the convenience of the operator
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of the gate. That operator is an amateur, running hardware that
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is paid for out of their own pocket. That the gate has limits
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not imposed by AT&T should come as no surprise to anyone, at
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least to no one with a modicum of sense.
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Each sysop in fidonet offers what services they can, and what
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services they have the time and talent to offer. They are not
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obligated to offer any. To be sure, some services carry an
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obligation. I, for example, am often obligated to format and work
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with articles that I disagree with.
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Nevertheless, there is such a thing as common courtesy.
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Fidonet would run much better if some of our members were
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capable of learning basic table manners.
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Last but not least, this not meant as a cheap shot against
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the other article calling for my resignation. On bad days, *I*
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could have written *that* article. The reason that Sylvia's
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absence has not been explained is that she has not explained it.
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I never attempt explanations for other people. I consider it
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rude.
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;<)
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Articles
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Da SNooZe
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The Terminator (1:2805/1)
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I just finished reading that last three issues of FidoSnooze. I
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had no idea that there were so many reasonable people in FidoNet.
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Why won't anyone listen to them?
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 3 18 Mar 1996
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bighub.org
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C I A (1:2623/71)
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Greetings Wes!
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I just wanted to write and speak my view of your altruistic gateway
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service, as stated in this weeks fidonews:
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"\
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By learning from the mistakes and mishaps of the former default
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gateway, we have put in this set of rules:
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1) DO NOT, FOR ANY REASON, AT ANY TIME ATTEMPT TO BYPASS THE
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BANNED ADDRESSES ON THIS GATEWAY.
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2) Subscribing to any mailing lists is prohibited.
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3) Exchanging of files is prohibited.
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4) No mail is private.
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"
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These are the same rules that caused Burt Juda such strife and
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discontent.. Except, I do not think he went as far as to eschew the
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protection afforded by ECPA in regards to private mail.. I infer
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from your prohibition that PGP mail will be auto-deleted, also?
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As I told Burt in the Snews a few weeks ago, these rules are anal
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and hamper communication...
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I admire your effort in offering the gateway, but, what use is it?
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You don't even grant respect for private mail..
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Since you will not allow files or mailing lists, its just as
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useless as Juda's gate was, except for msgs that could easily be
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sent as echomail or netmail..
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As for not circumventing your little netmgr twit filter to get
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around 'banned' sites, well, unless you intend to pursue legal
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action (and can find the perpetrator) you're just blowing smoke..
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It's trivial to get around those twit filters from the Internet,
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you are aware of that?
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Sigh...
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Why is it necessary to forbid mailing lists, when your downlinks
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will be the ones paying LD to pick them up? Why is it necessary to
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violate the ECPA, and throw away its protections, by claiming to
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disallow private mail? Why is it necessary to have 'twit filters'
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to keep people YOU don't like from using your supposedly open
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gateway?
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Y'all just don't get it, still haven't figured out what an OPEN
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communications net is about...
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Thankfully, Superlink is opening very soon (April) in our area :)
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 4 18 Mar 1996
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Technology Freeze
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by Colin Zimmer, 1:140/62
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Well my brother, Scott, was home over the Christmas holidays we
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started to discuss computers, like we always do. We got in to how
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much ever thing was changing, like most of us do. And then he said
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something that made some sense. What if Intel and every one else
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stopped coming out with new products for five years.
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Now before you think "Great, the makings of the next unibomber.",
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just read. Think about it, a five year freeze on technology
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upgrades. You wouldn't have to upgrade every time something new came
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out. It would give the manufacturers five years to come up with new
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products and to beta test them.
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This would not only save money, but there would be some sort of
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industry standard for software. All the programers in the world
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would no long have to worry about if it would work with ever one
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elses system because of system requirements. And one mass produced
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product would drop in price. No more, this many 486s, and this many
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100Mhz P5s, but all one CPU.
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Think about it, if you knew that the P6-200Mhz was going to be the
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top CPU for five years, would you go out and get one. I sure would.
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You wouldn't have to even think, "Gee, do I have enough power to run
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that new program" for five years. Then finally in five years there
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would be a new setup. (I'm not going to say CPU, because in five
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years, who knows) The company could make millions of one system,
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that would keep the price down, as I said before. Just a thought.
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TFSN
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Cindy Ingersoll (1:2623/71)
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A Search For
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The Free Speech Net
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In our search for a net that supports freedom of speech we
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have found many that claim to be free speech but NONE that
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really follow through. It has been our experience with these
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other nets that their definition of free speech is
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* different * than the Constitutional definition.
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It was our goal to find a network that provided a forum for
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* TRUE * freedom of speech. Allowing all speech except
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"illegal speech". A net where people are * RESPONSIBLE * for
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what they wrote yet were NOT in danger of losing their access
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purely on how others chose to react to those writings. A net
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 5 18 Mar 1996
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that supported and protected Free Speech even if that speech
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was unpopular.
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We never found such a net.
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We were told you can't have true freedom of speech on a net,
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that if a net supported real free speech it would become chaos
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because the callers would abuse it. We didn't believe
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that...we still don't. We believe that most callers are
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mature and intelligent and are able to handle a net that
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supports free speech. Our belief is so strong in the ability
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of the callers to handle Free Speech, that we have started our
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own net.
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Some people think that * BIG BROTHER * needs to be always
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present to protect callers from seeing this or that opinion,
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or to protect them from what might offend them. We don't
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believe that. We want to give that power to the caller. We
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want the caller to be able to decide what discussions they
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will or will not read. We want the caller to be able to
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decide if he will or will not participate. So we started a
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net to support that ideal.
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We believe that the individual caller is the one to decide if
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some subject or someone is offensive, and if it is, they can
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just skip that discussion or ignore that person. But the
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banning of subjects or people, for being offensive, is not an
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option on this net.
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In our search to find a Free Speech Net we found our own
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beliefs...and our beliefs have turned into a reality.
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In order to share our beliefs with you and to make our beliefs
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real, we ...
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present:
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T H E * F R E E S P E E C H * N E T
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.-O -: :O -O=-o -+- +.oo-
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- . . . - . .=
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. Ad Version 7.0 . .
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Supporting * All * That * The * Law * Will * Allow
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The Free Speech Net
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 6 18 Mar 1996
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Is The Only Net To Allow You The Freedom To Explore
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Beyond The Confines Of Your Own Thoughts.
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The Freedom To Ask Questions Of Others And Yourself.
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- Janet Russell -
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"Those not busy being born are busy dying." - Bob Dylan -
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The Free Speech Network is the combined creation of the SysOp
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and callers of the Miskatonic University BBS, Rising Force
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sysop of VVSI, and several local systems that have the same
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goal of supporting Free Speech. Joining The Free Speech net
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IS easy! Just fill out the application that should be
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following this ad. If you can't find the application, just
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netmail me at Fidonet 1:103/207 or Infinet 69:2/7140 and I
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will crash it to you.
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=Rising Force=
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at
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Fido 1:103/207
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Infinet 69:2/7140
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or
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Grimm at His BBS
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Miskatonic University
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310-404-6363
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Internet killing Fido? A view from Germany
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by Klaus 'Kaba' Bader, 2:2480/7, currently 1:109/333.3
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Tired from it all?
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Here's my perspective towards this whole "Fidonet is dying" stuff.
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I am a rather central echomail- and file distribution system for
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Augsburg, a town in Germany in net 2480.
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I hear this "song" at home, too. Users going away from the BBSes and
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towards the Internet, lines constantly getting less busy, echo
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attendance poor,...
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These opinions aren't published in FIDONEWS, tho, 'coz most of our
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 7 18 Mar 1996
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people don't or cannot read 'em because their English isn't that good.
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These discussions take place at meetings in pubs or bars, it's mostly
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1:30AM, we're all quite drunk and everybody's eyes are watering from
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all the smoke in the bar (Hi Joe!)...
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I listen to that for some time and then I speak up and remember the
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folx WHAT went on in "the good old days". Yeah, the lines were busy
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all the time. And the messageboards were just FULL. And there were
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chats.. BOY that was cool...
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But weren't 90% of these users the NTDL-type:
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'NewFiles-Tag-Download-Logoff' ?
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In these days, local messageboards carried more traffic, yeah. But
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apart from that really awesome cucumber-sex-thread, most of the stuff
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(and this special thread, too) was basically crap. Ok, partially, it
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was fun to read, I must admit. And the chats were't that bad, too.
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Except that my dinner regularly burned into the pan, I never got to go
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to bed the time I actually wanted to go and my girlfriend casually
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asked who is more important for me...
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Yeah, and we were just one family: Everybody was busy beefing up his
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system: Another line, another ISDN, another Gig-Volume, another
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CD-ROM, another door. Lotsa adult-stuff was clogging up diskspace,
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megabyte-clusters of soundclips, more or less colorful pictures and
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tons of outdated EGA- or CGA-games. Doesn't matter what's actually ON
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there, MY filelist is biggest. (And mine is longest, too...)
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The actual diskspace needed for echomail distribution has remained the
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same on my system, tho: I still use my oldest volume for my personal
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stuff, the complete mailbase AND the packets. (my average mail
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outbound is 'round 100MB per day). The only thing that really soared
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were the fileechoes. And the only reason for that (imho in Germany) is
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ISDN. When I compare the time spent for polling, I now have the same
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times on ISDN I had a few years back with 14.4. People seem to have an
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implanted threshold for phonecost, they only stop hatching when that
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magical barrier is reached...
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The poularity of the Internet hasn't changed that much from my
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personal, sysop's point of view.
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The real morons, the people that were reckless enough to page you at 3
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AM when you forgot to switch the speaker off, the ones who did NOT use
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the guest login, but logged in as HAGAR THE HORRIBLE or PETER PAN or
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worse names and filled up your TRASHCAN.CTL, these have miraculously
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dissapeared (mostly).
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For me, the times have acutally gotten _better_. The people that
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remained in Fidonet know why. Most of the German newsgroups have
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shrinked to a "readable" size again, the junk is ignorable and even
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some of the international echos (=backbone echos) get interesting
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enough to participate.
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I did not see the "worthy" people turning their backs on FidoNet
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BECAUSE OF THE INTERNET. The ones that leave in Germany are the
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 8 18 Mar 1996
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power-mongers or those disappointed or attacked by the former.
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And those people that joined Fido in the days when there was an air of
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hackerism with it, a kind of trailblazer feeling, a strange sort of
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arrogance towards all newbies and those who never ran OPUS or FIDO.
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AND of course the dissapointed teenagers (and there are LOTS of
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them!!!) leve after they found out that FidoNet acutally is no
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substitution for lacking self-esteem, that the other sysops do NOT
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look on how big your system is or how many insulting mails you can
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produce in one day, but on what you are at the sysop meetings (if you
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decide to show up there in the first place).
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And that is another advantage of FidoNet: Due to its structure, it
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implies a kind of "togetherness" that Internet will never have. Ok,
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|
there are IRC-parties, but hardly anyone from the IN would organize a
|
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|
party or a meeting and invite all people that "do" Internet in his
|
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|
neighborhood, wouldn't he? In FidoNet, this is part of it. I cannot
|
|||
|
imagine being in FidoNet and NEVER seeing anyone, NOT going to the
|
|||
|
weekly sysop-meetings now and then, NOT attending the monthly
|
|||
|
"Net-Stammtisch" in Munich, NOT going to EUROCon once a year (and
|
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|
return rather wrecked...).
|
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|
|
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|
Ok, I get pissed too, when *Cs start playing power games or the whole
|
|||
|
thing that f****d up Fido Germany not so long ago starts again
|
|||
|
(overlapping nets). But now after years have passed since the German
|
|||
|
FidoNet war, I am really proud having been part of that AND HAVING
|
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|
STAYED (which is much more important).
|
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|
|
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|
Problems and Deathbell rings come and go. What's important is that you
|
|||
|
never forget who you're doing this for: YOURSELF! :-)
|
|||
|
|
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|
The basic feeling I've seen here is that the USERS go away. Well, if
|
|||
|
your BBS isn't attended anymore, just close it down or simply don't
|
|||
|
care, you're doing this because YOU want to communicate, don't you???
|
|||
|
|
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|
Puh. As usual, I got MASSIVELY carried away... Happens to me every
|
|||
|
time I decide to speak up. Hum. Perhaps it's better that it's usually
|
|||
|
2AM, everybody wanted to go home HOURS ago and the lady with the mop
|
|||
|
comes to clean up the pub. That way, I never have the feeling they
|
|||
|
all leave because of me... :-)
|
|||
|
|
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|
"Say good night, Kaba."
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|
Good night...kaba.
|
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|
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|
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|
Modernizing FIDONet
|
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|
Title: Modernizing FIDONet
|
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|
By: Mark Kobussen, 1:282/4097
|
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|
|
|||
|
I have finally taken the time to actually, <GASP>, read
|
|||
|
the snooze, and the first thing I noticed was all the articles
|
|||
|
talking about FIDO and the Internet. One that caught my
|
|||
|
attention was the article about using HTML type tags in our
|
|||
|
FidoNews 13-12 Page: 9 18 Mar 1996
|
|||
|
|
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|
mail. Now, I don't think we need to duplicate the Internet, it's
|
|||
|
as good as it's gonna get (and with the appearance of such
|
|||
|
languages as Java and Microsoft's VB Script, the WWW becomes
|
|||
|
more and more interactive!).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From what I see, there is one thing to do. Modernize
|
|||
|
FIDONet. We need standards on message bases and software so it's
|
|||
|
easy for first time sysops to setup a FIDO node. Here is a list
|
|||
|
of a few things I think is essential in reviving FIDONet:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
- Standardized Message Formats: One format used by ALL
|
|||
|
FIDONodes. The messages themselves are packed as in the
|
|||
|
current procedure, but by a special FIDO interface, which
|
|||
|
takes them DIRECTLY from the BBS's message base and packs
|
|||
|
them, no converting needed, so it can be easily sent out.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
- FIDONet GNU Projects: I know how many programmers are out
|
|||
|
there! What we need is good, quality software. But cheap,
|
|||
|
FREE. Look at the internet. How much is Netscape, one of the
|
|||
|
most used WWW Browsers? Free. How much does it cost to operate
|
|||
|
a WWW site? I have 1mb of space and 24 hour service, all for
|
|||
|
free. This had a big thing to do with the first time I took my
|
|||
|
BBS down and disconnected from FIDO. I couldn't afford the
|
|||
|
software! These new programs would be tailored for the new
|
|||
|
mail system, standardized message formats and all. And with
|
|||
|
the advent of free software, I'm sure alot of the smaller 1
|
|||
|
node systems would join FIDONet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
For FIDONet, I do not see the need to duplicate the
|
|||
|
Internet, or even base our entire system on the internet. We
|
|||
|
need updated software, standard formats, and most of all, a lot
|
|||
|
of hard work from existing FIDONet sysops.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mark, Cygnus Spaceworks
|
|||
|
1:282/4097
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
InterNews Editor?
|
|||
|
Ron Bemis
|
|||
|
1:124/1113
|
|||
|
Our FidoNews Editor
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
January 15, 1996. FidoNews Volume 13, Number 3. Sylvia
|
|||
|
Maxwell's name is mysteriously missing from the "Editors"
|
|||
|
heading and other places, and is added to the "Editors
|
|||
|
Emerittii" section. No explanation to be found. And in
|
|||
|
this three page document, the only other information is the
|
|||
|
editorial, which says in whole "There were no articles
|
|||
|
submited [sic] this week".
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And so it goes. Our remaining lone editor seems about as
|
|||
|
excited about writing an editorial as he does about being a
|
|||
|
member of Fidonet. Maybe it's time to start a search for a
|
|||
|
new editor. An editor that can convey a sense of interest
|
|||
|
FidoNews 13-12 Page: 10 18 Mar 1996
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
in what he or she is doing.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's been pointed out in our regional echo that most new
|
|||
|
Fidonet members read at least a few issues of FidoNews.
|
|||
|
It's mentioned in Policy 4, and they have to read Policy 4,
|
|||
|
and some of it actually sinks in sometimes. :-)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Most newbies are "sponsored" or at least helped along by
|
|||
|
another Fidonet sysop. Unless they read about Fidonet in a
|
|||
|
magazine and got a nodelist from a shareware disk vendor,
|
|||
|
they know somebody that's already in the nodelist. That
|
|||
|
person probably urged them to apply for a node number,
|
|||
|
telling them all the benefits of being a "CM" node in the
|
|||
|
nodelist. They're excited, and ready to get involved. Then
|
|||
|
they read FidoNews, and find out that Fidonet is dying, and
|
|||
|
that hooking into the Internet is so much better...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sure, there are a few problems. I think the biggest one is
|
|||
|
that we're currently without an IC, and some decisions are
|
|||
|
not being made because of it. But can't we let the members
|
|||
|
decide for themselves if "Fidonet is dying" or not?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I think it's time for a new FidoNews Editor.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Future of Fidonet as we know it
|
|||
|
by Fredrik Bennison
|
|||
|
2:205/300, d93fbe@blg.du.se
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
When I first received the last two FidoNews issues, I was glad.
|
|||
|
Finally some life again, finally issues filled with articles.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
After reading them, I'm not quite as happy about it. Most of it
|
|||
|
was filled with doom, gloom and stories of Fidonet shrinking in
|
|||
|
size. With exception for the Patrick Driscoll and Damian Stamm
|
|||
|
who seem to have some faith left.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To all you 'Fidonet is shrinking'-proclaimers out there, I can
|
|||
|
tell you that at least here in Zone2, the nodelist is still
|
|||
|
growing. The growth of Z2 currently outweighs the shrinking
|
|||
|
trend in Z1. Sadly, it seems that our diffs doesn't reach the
|
|||
|
Z1 nodelist any more...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Another thing that seems to work better in Z2 than Z1 is netmail
|
|||
|
routing. I've never had an intra-Z2 netmail disappear. True, it
|
|||
|
might take a week or so for the netmail to reach it's
|
|||
|
destination, but it gets there. And here in Region20, a routed
|
|||
|
netmail most often reaches it's destination in less than 24
|
|||
|
hours.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
And again, I was surprised to hear about 'for-profit' cost
|
|||
|
sharing operations... I can't imagine such a thing even being
|
|||
|
thinkable here. We are all in this net to communicate with each
|
|||
|
other, to help each other. At least I am. If someone tried a
|
|||
|
FidoNews 13-12 Page: 11 18 Mar 1996
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
stunt like that here, someone else would simply take up the mail
|
|||
|
feed somewhere else. I know I would. We have a cost sharing
|
|||
|
plan going in my net, but that is distinctly non-profit oriented.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
What all this suggests to me is that Bob Satti and the Z1 RCs
|
|||
|
should take a long hard think through of what needs to be done
|
|||
|
to reinstate Fidonet into the state it was from the beginning.
|
|||
|
A place where we meet to discuss problems and help others solve
|
|||
|
theirs, and not this selfish 'grab all I can' mentality that
|
|||
|
seems to have taken over. It's very noticable here in R20 as
|
|||
|
well, and I am saddened by it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Conclusion: I don't think that Internet necessarily needs to be
|
|||
|
the end for Fidonet. Fidonet is so much more than Internet.
|
|||
|
Sure, Internet may have fast links, but it is also very
|
|||
|
impersonal and barren. Fidonet has a great advantage in that it
|
|||
|
has the local connection and friendliness of a nice
|
|||
|
neighbourhood pub or restaurant, but with an international
|
|||
|
cuisine on the menu as an added bonus.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
As for the future, I think that a new Policy is long overdue,
|
|||
|
but at the same time in reality unreachable unless we, the Fido
|
|||
|
sysops, somehow bridge our differences and pull in one
|
|||
|
direction, the only direction available, the one which contains
|
|||
|
a meaningful future for Fidonet. Fidonet as we know it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The future of Fidonet
|
|||
|
Lee Lefler (1:280/5)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It's not really anything new, but I don't agree with some
|
|||
|
of your conclusions in a recent editorial. (Fido1309) Over the
|
|||
|
years I have heard many rumors of the death of Fidonet. (Almost
|
|||
|
as many rumors as there are about a certain operating system's
|
|||
|
death) And two years ago I might have agreed with you that the
|
|||
|
Internet would be the death of Fido. Now, having a lot more
|
|||
|
experience with the Internet, to go with my 8 years of
|
|||
|
experience with Fido, I no longer maintain that opinion. And
|
|||
|
there are several reasons for thinking otherwise:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Internet technology is moving ahead while Fido remains
|
|||
|
stagnant. Actually, there is very little new technology in the
|
|||
|
Internet if you look at the big picture. TCP/IP is older than
|
|||
|
many of the people who read Fidonews or access the Internet.
|
|||
|
Old enough that we're facing a shortage of IP addresses and
|
|||
|
fixing that problem may mean rebuilding the Internet from the
|
|||
|
ground up. The Internet is also so far into the future that,
|
|||
|
despite severe problems of limited bandwidth, the majority of
|
|||
|
articles transmitted do so in an uncompressed form. The Web is
|
|||
|
one of the few bleeding edge applications, and it adds a
|
|||
|
tremendous load to the net while not really being all that
|
|||
|
useful. And yes, using Internet Phone to make free long distance
|
|||
|
calls is neat, but if I wanted to talk on the phone, I wouldn't
|
|||
|
FidoNews 13-12 Page: 12 18 Mar 1996
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
be playing with computers in the first place.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Why should sysops pay to call out and pick up echomail
|
|||
|
when you can get newsgroups (essentially) for free? Why should
|
|||
|
it be an either/or situation. The Internet can be a medium for
|
|||
|
transmitting Echomail just like it is for usenet. With
|
|||
|
absolutely no modification of the current mail processing
|
|||
|
software.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Having spent some time 'surfing the net', playing with the
|
|||
|
web, FTPing the latest and greatest, and slogging my way through
|
|||
|
various newsgroups, I can honestly tell you that Fido has things
|
|||
|
to offer that Usenet doesn't want. And that's the real
|
|||
|
comparison isn't it, Fido vs Usenet? Fido may have gone into
|
|||
|
the file transfer business, but it is still a MAIL network.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I like the fact that Fido echos require moderators. I
|
|||
|
don't always agree with them, but regardless of how you feel
|
|||
|
about moderators they do maintain the quality of an echo. I
|
|||
|
should also say here that I may be a little biased since I
|
|||
|
moderate a Fido echo, but not because I enjoy doing it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well moderated Fido echos rarely have the 'my OS is better
|
|||
|
than yours' debate that still rages on. Get a clue people, the
|
|||
|
one that works for you is the best one. It's just software.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fido doesn't get messages crossposted in every echo under
|
|||
|
the sun. Echos, and newsgroups, have topics so that people can
|
|||
|
select the ones that interest them, not so some individual can
|
|||
|
have a multitude of chances to annoy everyone else.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fido messages are also addressed TO someone. If we were
|
|||
|
standing in a group and I was responding to you, I would be
|
|||
|
looking AT you. Addressing my response TO you. Everyone else in
|
|||
|
that group would be free to comment on the topic being discussed
|
|||
|
at any time, but it would still be a focused conversation
|
|||
|
between YOU and ME. Usenet is more like millions of people
|
|||
|
standing on 18,000 soapboxes announcing their opinions. I'd
|
|||
|
rather have conversations.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Here's the way I see it, Fido has gone through many
|
|||
|
changes over the years. I can only comment on the ones I have
|
|||
|
seen, but when I first joined Fidonet I used to keep the
|
|||
|
nodelist ARChived on a 360k floppy. I have seen individuals
|
|||
|
refuse to pay the freight to supply the rest of the net with
|
|||
|
free echomail, and the birth of cost recovery plans. I have
|
|||
|
seen a satellite company offer Fido traffic for what, at the
|
|||
|
time, was an unbelievably small price. I have also seen Zone
|
|||
|
1's backbone stars become Internet Service Providers and start
|
|||
|
transferring all the Fido traffic via FTP.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I see the Internet as just another medium to advance my
|
|||
|
hobby, Fidonet. There is no reason why Fido traffic cannot be
|
|||
|
transferred across the Internet using (IMO) advanced Fido
|
|||
|
mailers. I can do it now thanks to my operating system and Ray
|
|||
|
FidoNews 13-12 Page: 13 18 Mar 1996
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Guinn's VModem. I have a full TCP stack that I can connect to
|
|||
|
the Internet on a whim, VModem allows me to redirect ANY
|
|||
|
Mailer/Terminal/BBS to a virtual comport, and I can push that
|
|||
|
data across the Internet to a similarly configured system or
|
|||
|
Telnet daemon. And with a static IP I could hub mail for
|
|||
|
systems anywhere in the world for the cost of a local Internet
|
|||
|
connection.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
So there's your migration path. Pick up a little new
|
|||
|
software. Recruit a few mail hubs. And while you're at it, get
|
|||
|
rid of some of these silly political boundaries that generate so
|
|||
|
many amusing articles for you to publish. It costs no more to
|
|||
|
feed mail to a system in Europe than it does to the guy next
|
|||
|
door.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Internet isn't the death of Fido, it's a means to promote it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Lee Lefler
|
|||
|
Fido 1:280/5
|
|||
|
infinity@sound.net
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Social Constipation Part XXVII
|
|||
|
By The Closet Head
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The Re-arrangement of Michael
|
|||
|
-------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
Well, here I find myself again wondering just who the heck
|
|||
|
is our own worst enemy?
|
|||
|
-------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Just yesterday, I had to repair a toilet that had become a
|
|||
|
pestering nuisance to my wife of 10 years and my two daughters,
|
|||
|
aged eight and six.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
See, in my house we have two toilets. One is sequestered
|
|||
|
away and is "mommy's" bathroom. It is in the master bathroom and
|
|||
|
is considered sacred ground. The other is the "house" bathroom,
|
|||
|
and like many other homes found today is convenient to the
|
|||
|
common areas of the house. It is in a hallway right off of the
|
|||
|
living room. It's the one that all the guests have to use, or
|
|||
|
they will intrude upon the lady's piles of Revlon and other
|
|||
|
goops and secret potions and drying pantyhose in the "other
|
|||
|
bathroom".
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The problem was the toilet in the commons bathroom. It
|
|||
|
leaked, it squealed, whined, squeaked, whistled and made a
|
|||
|
curious fluttering noise that resembled a fart. It annoyed
|
|||
|
everyone. I ignored it....promised to fix it, work on it....and
|
|||
|
gave it the usual "ignore it til' you can't stand it anymore"
|
|||
|
routine that we husbands and fathers learn as a matter of
|
|||
|
survival. I ignored, the toilet squealed....I ignored, the
|
|||
|
toilet whined...
|
|||
|
FidoNews 13-12 Page: 14 18 Mar 1996
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Finally, a week ago....February 16th, 1996 at 11:25AM, the
|
|||
|
toilet could be ignored no more. It groaned heavily after my
|
|||
|
youngest flushed a basketball-sized wad of paper down the
|
|||
|
hole....It backed up for a second and then flushed it's last
|
|||
|
load before the ballcock mechanism disintegrated into a heap of
|
|||
|
polypropylene shards, spraying water onto the lid of the closet
|
|||
|
and for all the world looking like Noah's flood was recurring in
|
|||
|
my bathroom.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I waded in and shut down the water and handed my wife a pail
|
|||
|
and a mop as I excused myself to go buy new replacement parts
|
|||
|
for the toilet. She was not very happy about this, and still
|
|||
|
isn't to this day.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
That's where it got interesting. I jumped into my 91' Ford
|
|||
|
Escort and revved up all 130 cubic inches of raw power that the
|
|||
|
little station wagon had to muster and puttered off to the
|
|||
|
Builder's Square to get my toilet things. I pulled into the
|
|||
|
parking lot and then headed in to the store when all of a sudden
|
|||
|
I was frozen into my tracks. I saw something I had seen before,
|
|||
|
but it was just a little different. Not exactly the same, but an
|
|||
|
incarnation or reincarnation of a distant memory.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The sign said "We test all applicants for illegal drugs. If
|
|||
|
you do drugs we don't want you here." I was stunned. The sign
|
|||
|
itself was easily 4 feet by 8 feet...with letters 6" tall
|
|||
|
painted in a very loud orange with black outlines. Wow.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I found myself at a crossroad of life at that very moment,
|
|||
|
at that very place in time...in the parking lot of a Builder's
|
|||
|
Square, in need of a ballcock and spindle piece to please those
|
|||
|
who love me....I found religion.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
See, I have smoked marijuana all of my adult life. I have
|
|||
|
smoked to relax for 28 years. During that time I have developed
|
|||
|
a career and established a family, bought a home and quietly
|
|||
|
gone on with having a life. I work hard, sometimes too much and
|
|||
|
I bring home a decent income. I earn money and I spend
|
|||
|
money....and a lot of it is spent on fixing up the home.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I decided that crossing the threshold of that store was the
|
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same as sticking a knife into my own body, a form of
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self-immolation and that I was actually paying for it. I
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line......a Berlin Wall.... a source of ultimate division. I
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winced. I needed the toilet parts..in fact, I could hear them
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inside the store calling to me. I wanted to go in, but I
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full faith and clear judgement. I got back in my car, started it
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up and headed to Home Depot....only to be confronted with an
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even larger sign of the same exact wording. On to Furrow's,
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McCoy's, Loew's...etc...etc.. same shit. It is absolutely
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amazing how many chains of home stores there are in a town like
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Houston.....and every goddamned one of them have big agressive
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drug-signs just like Builder's Square.
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in desperation. As I approached the front, I examined all of the
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signs, and the voodoo sign was not there. I actually finally
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named Al. Al was a head, it was obvious. He had the tell-tale
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dead shirt on, the ponytail, the elaborate stereo cranking out
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whining leads from Ten Years After. I knew his name was Al
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because he wore a big red button that said "My name is Al".
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"What can I do you for?" Al asked me. "I need a bullcock
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whatchamajigger kit, Al" I replied. "My toilet exploded and it
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developed into a shitty situation." Al sized me up in my jeans
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and turtle shirt, sidewall haircut and greasy ballcap and
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replied "Man, that's the pits.....$6.95 for the kit" and he
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produced a complete toilet-gut kit. I grasped the plasticine
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bubble in almost orgasmic adoration and then said "I'll take
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two, Al."
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"Why, man? You think another one is going out?" he said. "No
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chances, Al. I have been looking all damn day for one of these
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things. Hey, can I ask you something?" "Shoot" Al replied. "Do
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you guys drug test your employees?" I asked, abruptly.
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Al looked me over and started to sack up my purchase
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seemingly ignoring my question and mulling it over when he
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returned my question "Why, man?"
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"Why am I asking or why test your employees?" I retorted.
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"Yeah" he returned.
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"I am not too thrilled with people abusing other people's
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rights, Al. I mean that drug testing stuff. I don't like it. I
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don't want to do business with anyone who is screwing over their
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employees rights. As for why should you test your employees,
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that is a good question....why do it? What's in it for you?" I
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struck a pose of hardness, and then Al beamed at me with a big
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smile..."Yeah, why?" he said. "You come back anytime, fellah.
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You can spend your money here, no problem man. In fact, come on
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back even if you aren't in the mood to shop."
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I handed Al a twenty and he passed the sack of parts to
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me.....and I turned to leave, stuffing the change in my pocket
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without even counting...and then I did something I cannot
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explain. I turned and looked Al straight in the eye and then
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slowly raised my right hand into a fist...and I let out a rebel
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yell..."right on, Al...let's take it on home now, brother." AL
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returned my salute...the long-forgotten salute of my youth, the
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hidden heart I had always had but pushed aside. I turned and I
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left.
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FidoNews 13-12 Page: 16 18 Mar 1996
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In my car, on the way home my mind rambled back to my youth
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in the early sixties....the first girl I kissed and groped, my
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first surfboard, my first motorcycle, my first
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job..........job....my first job. That was as a dishwasher at
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the Rexall Drugstore in Eau Gallie, Florida. Yes, I remember.
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Washing dishes, mopping floors, $1.44 an hour was big bucks back
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then.....the sign. The sign.
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The sign on the door of the Rexall said "We do not hire
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communists or communist sympathyzers." Yeah, that sign.....and
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the oath you had to sign, that you "were not nor never had been
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a communist". Jesus, I had almost forgotten. The missiles, the
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soldiers, Castro, the oath, the signs. It was the same, but
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different...an incarnation or reincarnation of a distant
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past....maybe not so distant after all, in the toss of life's
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chips.
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I stopped in a mom and pop convenience store to avoid the
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7-11's and the Stop-N-Go's, McDonalds, Burger King who displayed
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the offending signs. I found my choice easy as I scanned the
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iced-down sodas and I grabbed a Coke and then thrust it onto the
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counter for the lady to ring up. I pulled one of the dollars out
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of my pocket and noticed that George Washington had a stamp on
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his face like a thought balloon that said "I grew hemp." Al, you
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old rascal.....bring it on home brother, bring it on home.
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Wonder where I can get one of them stamps?
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