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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.12 No.42 (16-Oct-1995)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| | | \ \\ | Editors: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Sylvia max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 1
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2. Articles...................................................... 3
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Political struggle within Fidonet?.......................... 3
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 3
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Editorial
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There is only one article in the inbound today, and it
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appears to be almost a repeat of an article that was in last
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week's snooze. A few revisions, and that is all. Perhaps the
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author got impatient.
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Our local (region 12) sysop echo is full of arguement about
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the geographical net boundaries specified in policy. Again. Of
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all problems in Fidonet, that single issue has probably caused
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more problems, arguements and bad feelings than any other issue.
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Remember the German fiasco? The England fiasco? The Hong
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Kong fiasco? And locally, the Toronto fiasco? (which never made
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the snooze because it is being fought out in the regional arena)
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FidoNews 12-42 Page: 2 16 Oct 1995
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Every one of those problems could have been solved by simply
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telling the people that could not get along to either find some
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people they could get along with or to go away. Every one of
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them escalated into a major problem because a single person or a
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small group had the power to say "my way or no way".
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The same can be said for 95% of all policy complaints that I
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have ever seen. When it is the responablity of the individual
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sysop to find a place they can fit in, there are few problems.
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When where they fit in is dictated by someone else, and it does
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not work out, then policy complaints are the result.
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In the beginning, it was quite simple. You found a hub that
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was willing to feed you, and you set up your board. Yo applied,
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via netmail, for a node number. That was the end of it. Unless
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you annoyed your hub to the point that they refused to feed you
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anymore, you were set forever. If you did annoy your hub to
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that point, it was up to you to find a new feed. If found in the
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same net, you could keep the node number. If not, you were forced
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to get a new one.
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Then the politicians got into the act. It Was Decided that
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the real purpose of new members was to reduce costs, and they
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would be assigned to existing hubs in a manner that contributed
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to CRP's so that routed mail and echos would be cheaper for all.
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Nets, new nodes, and sysops became pawns in the great game
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of my net is bigger than your net, and my cost for email is
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lower than your cost. Policy 4 was written, and centralized
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control became the great solution to everything. Establish a
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net in a geographic area, and you were granted a monopoly on
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Fidonet for that area.
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Problem is, that it solved little, and causes most of the
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problems. If left to the marketplace, nets will tend to develope
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on a geographical basis because it is cheaper for all.
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Enforcing the same thing from above is like trying to regulate
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the tides by statute. It doesn't work.
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FidoNews 12-42 Page: 3 16 Oct 1995
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Articles
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Political struggle within Fidonet?
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Political struggles within Fidonet - Is it still a hobby?
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By Jeremy Guthrie and Sean Laurent
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jguthrie@coredcs.com <-> fizban@coredcs.com
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Hello, my name is Jeremy Guthrie. I used to be NEC of 2207. Sean
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Laurent, the former NC of Net 2207, and I had developed new nodelist
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specifications that shrank the 3.3 meg nodelist down to 800K. I had
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every piece of administration software designed: nodediff generators,
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update doors, etc... I had api's written in ansi c++ and ansi pascal. I
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had a converter to switch between the new and old formats. There was a
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browser for the new format and much more. I had a solution for the
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nodelist problem. In fact I was going to release it all as public
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domain. When net 2207 was removed, that all changed. I will be
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copyrighting the code and specifications.
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Why am I doing this? Because, Mark Lynch removed our new net without
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even asking our side of an argument. He just pulled it from us saying
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his approval of it was a mistake. I am a person who likes to be dealt
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with personally; I consider it a show of respect to deal with someone on
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such a matter. Mark did nothing of the sort, so with that I refuse to
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let specifications go to the public. I no longer run a board and do NOT
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want to return to Net 238, my former net, because I face the same
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problems there. Net 238 follows the same course as Mark did. Many
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there, such as John Hrusovszky (1:238/300), accused us of misleading
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Mark, of sending "a bogus net formation request" (whatever that is), and
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then the individuals couldn't prove it.
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I had a great FREE solution to a big problem of FidoNet, but because
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people refuse talk to me or try to be objective, I refuse to help those
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who hinder me.
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Just thought people had the right to know,
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Jeremy Guthrie formerly 1:2207/1 1:2207/110
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Sean Laurent formerly 1:2207/0 1:2207/120
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FidoNews 12-42 Page: 4 16 Oct 1995
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Editors: Donald Tees, Sylvia Maxwell
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar
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FidoNews 12-42 Page: 5 16 Oct 1995
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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' ' disgreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or semethin to amuse ourselves,,
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and create the requisite chaos."
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-Tom Jennings
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