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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.12 No.19 (08-May-1995)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Editors: |
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| |__U__| / \// | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Sylvia-max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Tim Pozar -- pozar@kumr.lns.com |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq |
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| please refer to the end of this file. |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 1
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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Subject: "How to Manage Your Personal Smurfdoms"............ 2
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Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr]............................. 4
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 5
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Editorial
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I have been corresponding with an ex Fidonet sysop from Hong
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Kong regarding the doings there, and what "we" should be doing
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about them. Truth is, what CAN we do about them? Nothing
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really. Ultimately, only the sysops in a particular area can
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remedy problems in that area.
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People talk about the "fidogods" as if they have some sort of
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power to change things. I know that personally, about all I can
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do is print the articles that come in. I cannot (and do not
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want to) control anything outside my own BBS. It astonishes me
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to be included in some mythical group of fidogods. I have not
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even met anyone else that seems to be included in that group,
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let alone planned anything with them. I probably have
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FidoNews 12-19 Page: 2 08 May 1995
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had posts from some, but the posts looked exactly the same as
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the ones that came from points. No more no less.
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Here in our own net, I am in the midst of a debate on
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whether non-hubs should be allowed to vote in net decisions. As
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I gave up being a hub a year or so back, I have been eliminated
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suddenly from voting status to a non-entity. I argue against it
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the same as any other sysop in any other net.
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It is time that we started to develope new methods. The
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political shortcomings of fidonet are largely the result of
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technological shortcomings. We are stagnating, and we should be
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doing something about it.
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Articles
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Subject: "How to Manage Your Personal Smurfdoms"
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From: Cindy Ingersoll (formerly 1:2623/71)
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4/26/95
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Greetings Editor!
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I dunno if all of what I'd like to express would fit or be fitting
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for the Snooze. I imagine even wanting to write the following will get
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me in more trouble. But, having no other means to let people know
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what's going on here in net2623, I figure I got nothing to loose - my
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node number was already yanked, deleted, expunged from the nodelist
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like a loose speck of dust off a disk head. Why? What heinous crime
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did I commit? What moral atrocity did I perpetrate??
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I was given 2 days notice, at around 1am, day 1, that my mailer
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(Portal of Power) was not FTS-0001 compliant. I immediately replied
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asking what exactly is wrong with the mailer, and I will try to fix
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it, having no idea where this "non compliance" spiel was coming from,
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because for several months now my mailer and the NCs mailer have had
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not one problem sending mail, and the NC was the one who installed PoP
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for me ITFP. Next day I tried calling the NC voice, no answer, calling
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his nodes, no answer. When I finally get a carrier later that
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afternoon, I got Yoohoo/2u2 <CLICK-Hangup> everytime it sees 2623/71
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calling! Hmm.
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The mailer was not the real issue. Its just the only semi-plausible
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excuse this NC has to expunge me from the nodelist. There was a
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discussion going on in our local net sysop echo, about CRaPs, local
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net rules and elections, and areafix access to requisite fido areas
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(or the lack thereof for non-CRaP nodes).
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Apparently, even discussing these things was enough to get me kicked out.
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One node asked why there was no elections or net policy. His reward
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was removal from that mandatory sysop echo..
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Another node, not in our net, not even sposed to be posting in that
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echo, made some harsh comments about the NCs way of responding to us,
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FidoNews 12-19 Page: 3 08 May 1995
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but he was given permission to stay and didn't even suffer one pointed
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word in retaliation (even tho the guy pretty much slapped him [the NC]
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in the face for being so medievial).. We were called assholes and
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bitches for less.
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I think the bulk of the problem lies in the fact that this NC made
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more or less a *business* out of reselling his PC feed.
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No one ever denied he had a right to charge whatever fee, but
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realistically, considering the number of potential "buyers" of fido
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echos, and the explicitly *non profit* nature of fido, $10 a month for
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echos is ALOT - and that may be why this NC has only 3-5 paying
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members (out of what 40??). Specially when the same NC offers ALL of
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usenet (8000 newsgroups now??) for $20 a month through the same PC
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feed used for fido?! And even more, when you can get full Internet
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dialup access locally for $10 a month ;^)
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I already know the answer that I'll get tho, "Too bad, if you can't
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pay for the toys" which is fine, which is why I went and got feeds out
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of state.
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But is bringing these things forward for discussion, and then being
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deleted from the nodelist, the norm here in fidonet? Since when did a
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net become the personal smurfdom of any particular NC?? (Or has it
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always been like that?? I've only been in the net a few months and boy
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it's been, uhh, instructional..) Does investing in equipment to handle
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fido mean *buying* ownership of the net/nodelist segment??
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There was alot more involved in this particular incident, a Pee4 was
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filed by me, hasn't been resolved yet I spose, at least I have not
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heard anything, just got a cc: from the RC, directed to the NC asking
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why I was deleted.. No answer yet. I archived the posts, maybee I
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should publish them, "How to Manage Your Personal Smurfdom"?
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I guess the only thing I can do is sit and wait, while all my
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incoming netmail goes to bitbucket.. Funny, the snooze editor was just
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saying something about a woman who went psycho and butchered some one
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after being deleted from the nodelist? ;) Nah couldn't happen :-)
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Thnaks to Paul Cuni (1:141/515) for my new sig file!
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I am not looking foward to having this shit in your crappy
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fidonews. The articles in it are long and drawn out. It's like
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reading a Novel to express a simple point. I could go on but
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I'd just be wasting my breath like your Newsletter wastes my
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bandwidth.
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CiA
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FidoNews 12-19 Page: 4 08 May 1995
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Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/6
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lisa@m2xenix.psg.com
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Summary of backbone & quasi-backbone echo changes during Mar & Apr.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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diff (fidonet.na + fidonet.no) 05-Mar-95 (ditto) 30-Apr-95 [edited]
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> 10TH_AMD 10th Amendment
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> ADEPT_SYSOP ADEPT SysOp to SysOp support
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> BASSGTR Bass Guitar Echo
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> BIG_SMOKE Cigar Lovers Echo
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> BIRTHMOTHERS BIRTHMOTHERS' SUPPORT ECHO
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> CAN_SYSLAW Canadian Systems Law
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> CONFED_HERITAGE Confederate Heritage
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> CREDIT Help in obtaining and maintaining credit.
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> DELPHI Borland DELPHI
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> ECHO_ADS Advertise FidoNet Echos Here
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> FARMING Farm Life and Production Agriculture
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> FLAT_TAX Flat rate taxation and government waste.
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> FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression
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> GOP_POLITICS Grand Old Party
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> GO_PROD_SUP Green/Ortiz Product Support Echo
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> HOLY_BIBLE_FCS Respond to posts made to you in HOLY_BIBLE
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> HOTROD HOTROD
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> KAG Klingon Assault Group Echo
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> LORD Legend Of The Red Dragon Doorgame
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> MATH MATH HELP OR QUESTIONS
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> MCC_SUPPORT Multiboard Communications Support
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> MDOOR_HELP Maindoor Mailer Support Conference
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> MEET_AFT Meeting After
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> OCI.TECH Front Door, MsgTrack, Toss Scan, Msgalert, etc.
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> OJ_SIMPSON People VS OJ Simpson Discussion
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> OMEGA_SOFT Omega Software Support Conference
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> OS2GAMES OS/2 Games Echo
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> P5DRAFT Promption & Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
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> PRO_LIFE Pro-Life Question and Answer Forum
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> QEDIT QEdit Echo
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> REAL_FREE_SPEECH Real Free Speech - No Moderation
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> RTSOFT Robinson Technologies Software Support
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> SIMPSONS The Simpsons
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> SINGLE_MOMS Forum for Single Mothers
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> STARTREK_CCG STAR TREK CUSTOMIZABLE CARD GAME
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> SYSOP_ISSUES SysOp's Issues-Alternative to SYSOP & FN_SYSOP
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> VEGAN The Vegetarian Echo
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> X-FILES X-Files TV show discussions
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NOTE: HOTROD and QEDIT are returning echos (previously deleted from
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the backbone because their ELIST entries expired).
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FidoNews 12-19 Page: 5 08 May 1995
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< MACFSALE Macintosh For Sale/Wanted
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o There are 764 echos in fidonet.na [30-Apr-95] (up 23)
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o There are 20 echos in fidonet.no [30-Apr-95] (up 14)
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o for a total of 784 backbone & quasi-backbone echos (up 37)
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
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Editors: Donald Tees, Sylvia Maxwell
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar
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Tom Jennings
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"FidoNews" BBS
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FidoNet 1:1/23
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BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS)
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more addresses:
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Don -- 1:221/192, don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
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Sylvia- 1:221/194, max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
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(Postal Service mailing address)
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FidoNews
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Kitchener, Ontario
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voice: (519) 570-3137
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Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
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INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
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of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
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authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
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does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in
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these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of
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FidoNews.
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Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
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Copyright 1995 Donald Tees. All rights reserved. Duplication
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and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use
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in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or the eds.
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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
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form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or
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Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
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FidoNews 12-19 Page: 6 08 May 1995
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PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above paper-mail
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address.
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.fidonet.org,
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in directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews.
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Anyone interested in getting a copy of the INTERNET GATEWAY FAQ may
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freq GISFAQ.ZIP from 1:133/411.0, or send an internet message to
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fidofaq@gisatl.fidonet.org. No message or text or subject is
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necessary. The address is a keyword that will trigger the automated
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response. People wishing to send inquiries directly to David Deitch
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should now mail to fidonet@gisatl.fidonet.org rather than the
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previously listed address.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
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from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.
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"the pulse of the cursor is the heartbeat of fidonet"...
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