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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.11 No.38 (19-Sep-1994)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| _ | +1-519-570-4176 |
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| /|oo \ | Small animal psychology and |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | Rev. Richard Visage 1:163/409 |
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| |__U__| / \// | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| _//|| _\ / | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | Tim |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Tim Pozar -- pozar@kumr.lns.com |
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| David Deitch -- 1:133/411.411, deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org |
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| submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 2
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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FidoCon is Coming!(or "How to Build the Global Village").... 2
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Now is the Discontent of our Winter......................... 3
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Wiretap Bill Update......................................... 4
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MADam emilia considers pornography.......................... 7
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Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]............................. 7
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My Dear Doctor Logger,...................................... 8
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NBA ECHO IS HERE!........................................... 10
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Churches and their positions................................ 10
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Re-engineering of Net 700................................... 12
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 13
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 2 19 Sep 1994
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Editorial
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We have decided to attempt a Fidocon next summer, here in
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net 221 (South Western Ontario). Cory Albrecht, one of the
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local net people, has started a host BBS to co-ordinate it, and
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we have started a local echo for planning. Currently, the echo
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is being distributed to half a dozen nets in South Western
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Ontario. Hopefully, it will soon be getting much wider
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distribution.
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What are we attempting to do? Basically, we want a chance
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for all fidonet members to meet as many net friends as is
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possible. At the least, Max and I are going to have one heck
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of a big party here next August. At best, those of you who
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always wanted to visit Canada will be able to make all your
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holiday plans by netmail ... we will get several information BBSes
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set up for everything from art gallery tours to camping and
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fishing, and about 5-600 families will start or end their
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holidays here in Kitchener.
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So read Cory's article, and start planning ...
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Articles
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FidoCon is Coming!(or "How to Build the Global Village")
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By Cory C. Albrecht, FidoCon '95 BBS, 1:221/256.0
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Yes, FidoCon is on it's way! Specifically FidoCon '95 in Kitchener-
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Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Because there has not been been a FidoCon
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in several years, and nor has there ever been one in Canada, it it's
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high time we have another one! So set aside time in August 1995 to
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come to FidoCon and talk about "Building the Global Village."
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Not only do we want you to come to our wonderful region, but we want
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you to help set up FidoCon '95! We want you to tell us what speakers
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you want to see - Tom Jennings? Wynn Wagner? Maybe even Steve
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Winters? :-) We need you to make FidoCon '95 an event to be
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remembered (if it's even going to be an event at all). We want one
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Sysop in (hopefully) every net world-wide to be a FidoCon '95
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promoter for their area. If you have helped put to a convention or
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have good organizational skills, we would love to hear from you! We
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also welcome othernets to participate in FidoCon '95. If you are a
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Sysop on a board that is a part of another net and are willing to
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act as a liaison, let us know.
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So, get your NEC to bug your REC to bug the R12EC to get the echo
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"FIDOCON95" from the N221EC so we can get this thing off the ground!
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Start your own local echoes to tell everybody about FidoCon '95 and
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get them hyped to attend! We want you here not only to tell us where
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 3 19 Sep 1994
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you want Fidonet to go in the future, but also to help us build the
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Global Village.
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Cory Albrecht
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cory@garmr.waterloo-rdp.on.ca
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Area Sysopp, Msg#100, Sep-11-94 15:55:22
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From: David rice
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To: Donald Tees
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Subject: DISCONT.ART
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Now is the Discontent of our Winter
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by David Rice
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In the Vol. 11 No. 34 issue of FidoNews, there was mention of a
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weekly Bible column. I -love- the idea! I mean, like, that's
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what FidoNews is for, isn't it?! Why SURE it is! It is not as
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if people could actually go out and get a Bible and read it
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themselves if they wanted to--- what with the Pagan Left
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censoring everything good and wholesome and godly. It's not as
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if there were over a dozen echoes dedicated to the topic, each
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one more Biblical and True than the next. It's not as if one
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can find a Bible in every motel room throughout the nation, or
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ask the Geidion Society for a few hundred free ones, or that
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one may go into any used book store and pick one up for a dime.
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Ah, no! Certainly not! We -must- have a Bible column in
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FidoNews--- what computer related, network oriented newsletter
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would be complete without a Bible column?! It's only logical,
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right? You betcha!
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After the Bible column has been underway for a few weeks, we
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should also have a weekly astrological column as well. That's
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fair, ain't it? And topical to FidoNews, right? Of course it is.
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And a cooking column. There's the ticket. Every computer
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network newsletter should have a cooking column. We should hear
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all about how to prepare boneless chicken and Lima beans in
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FidoNews. This is vital information, not available anywhere else.
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Not to mention the weekly Household Tips column. Those grass
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stains on the knees of one's jeans sure are a bitch to get out,
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don't you agree? Of course you do: that's why we -need- this
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column too!
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Naturally if these new weekly columns--- Bible, Astrological,
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Cooking, and Household Tips--- are rejected as not suitable for
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FidoNews, I'm going to scream "censorship" at the top of my
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lungs, to everyone who will listen (and plenty who won't) until
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the editors cave in to my demands. Hell, maybe I'll sue them.
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 4 19 Sep 1994
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That's what FidoNews is for, ain't it? Why sure it is.
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the following "wiretap bil update" is borrowed from:
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Computer underground Digest Wed Sep 14, 1994 Volume 6 : Issue 81
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ISSN 1004-042X
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borrowed from the last file of cud:
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Issues of CuD can also be found in the Usenet comp.society.cu-digest
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news group; on CompuServe in DL0 and DL4 of the IBMBBS SIG, DL1 of
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LAWSIG, and DL1 of TELECOM; on GEnie in the PF*NPC RT
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libraries and in the VIRUS/SECURITY library; from America Online in
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the PC Telecom forum under "computing newsletters;"
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On Delphi in the General Discussion database of the Internet SIG;
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on RIPCO BBS (312) 528-5020 (and via Ripco on internet);
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and on Rune Stone BBS (IIRGWHQ) (203) 832-8441.
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CuD is also available via Fidonet File Request from
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1:11/70; unlisted nodes and points welcome.
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From: email list server <listserv@SUNNYSIDE.COM>
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 09:29:49 -0700
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Subject: File 6--Wiretap Bill Update
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Wiretap Bill Update
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The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) and Voters Telecomm
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Watch (VTW) are urging concerned individuals and organizations to
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help stop the FBI Wiretap Bill. Congress is now back in session and
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your support is critical. The attached alert from VTW provides
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contact info for the relevant Congressional representatives.
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EPIC is a project of the Fund for Constitutional Government and
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Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility. For additional
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information, send e-mail to <info@epic.org>.
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Subject--ACTION--Fight US bills--SB 2375 & HR 4922
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From--shabbir@panix.com (Shabbir J. Safdar)
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Date--11 Sep 1994 23:44:50 -0400
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DISTRIBUTE WIDELY (though no later than October 1, 1994)
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[If you've only got 2 minutes, skip down to the "What You Can Do"
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section.]
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 5 19 Sep 1994
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[Washington insiders say the phone calls and faxes (especially to Rep
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Jack Brooks) are starting to attract significant attention, and many
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people prophesize that the bill won't even have time to pass this
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session. Thanks for your efforts!]
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The FBI's Wiretap bills (also known as the DT - Digital Telephony
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bills) mandate that *all* communications carriers must provide
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wiretap-ready equipment so that the FBI can more easily implement
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their court-ordered wiretaps more easily. The costs of
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re-engineering all communications equipment will be borne by the
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government, industry and consumers.
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The bill is vague and the standards defining "wiretap ready" do not
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exist. Furthermore, the FBI has yet to make a case which
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demonstrates that they have been unable to implement a wiretap.
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There are fewer than 1,000 court ordered surveillances per year.
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Even if all of them are wiretaps, and even if all of them require the
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changes mandated by this legisation, are we as a nation prepared to
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build eavesdropping features into the phones of 250 million people,
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in order to justify these wiretaps? None of these wiretaps has been
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demonstrated to be unimplementable, nor has it been proven that the
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cases could not be made with other methods of electronic surveillance.
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The Voters Telecomm Watch (VTW) does not believe the FBI has made a
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compelling case to justify that all Americans give up their privacy.
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Furthermore, the VTW does not believe the case has been made to
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justify spending 500 million Federal dollars over the next 4 years to
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re-engineer equipment to compromise privacy, interfere with
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telecommunications privacy, and fulfill an unproven government need.
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WHAT YOU CAN DO
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You can help stop this legislation before it is too late!
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Phone/Fax/Write to each of the people below. It should take
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about two minutes a piece.
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. Rep. Jack Brooks (his Judiciary Committee must approve the bill
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before it can be voted upon by the full House)
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DC Phone: (202) 225-6565, TX Phone: (409) 839-2508
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DC Fax: (202) 225-1584
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Also try Judiciary Comm. fax at (202) 225-3951
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US Mail: RHOB 2449, Washington DC 20515
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. Senator Patrick Leahy (the Senate sponsor of the bill)
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DC Phone: (202) 224-4242, VT Phone: (802) 863-2525
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DC Fax: (202) 224-3595
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US Mail: SR 433, Washington DC 20510
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email: senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov
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. Rep. Don Edwards (the House sponsor of the bill)
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DC Phone: (202) 225-3072, CA Phone: (408) 345-1711
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DC Fax: (202) 225-9460
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US Mail: 2307 RHOB, Washington DC 20515
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 6 19 Sep 1994
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. Your two Senators
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. Your Representative
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Tell them you are opposed to the FBI's Wiretap legislation. Feel
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free to use the sample communique below:
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SAMPLE COMMUNIQUE
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Dear __________,
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The recent Digital Telephony bills (HR 4922 & SB 2375) disturb me
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greatly. The FBI has not yet made their case to the public that we
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need to build wiretap functionality into the telephones of 250
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million people to justify wiretaps which have not yet been proven to
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be difficult to implement.
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The bills would clearly compromise the privacy of all Americans with
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no counterbalancing benefit to either law enforcement or the public.
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The FBI has not demonstrated the need, and the cost is uncalculated,
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but is known to be at least 500 million tax dollars.
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Furthermore, the standards are undefined, as are the bodies that
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would enact these standards.
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For these reasons, I am opposed to the Digital Telephony bills
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(HR 4922 & SB 2375).
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Sincerely,
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_______________________
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If you get a response from your legislator, drop us a note at
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vtw@vtw.org. We track legislator positions on privacy-related issues
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such as this one.
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For more information about the Digital Telephony bills, check the
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Voters Telecomm Watch gopher site (gopher.panix.com) or contact
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Steven Cherry, VTW Press Contact at (718) 596-2851 or stc@vtw.org.
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VTW posts a Digital Telephony FAQ monthly to several Usenet
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newsgroups including comp.org.cpsr.talk and comp.org.eff.talk. Look
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for it or contact us at vtw@vtw.org for a copy.
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 7 19 Sep 1994
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MADam emilia considers pornography
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Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/6
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lisa@m2xenix.psg.com
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Summary of backbone & quasi-backbone echo changes during Jul & Aug.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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diff (fidonet.na + fidonet.no) 03-Jul-94 (ditto) 04-Sep-94 [edited].
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> AIDS.DATA READ ONLY News Group Relating to AIDS/HIV
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> APOGEE Apogee Support Conference
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> CDOOR RBBS/CDOR Support, Development & Users
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> CROSS_STITCH Cross Stitchers Conference
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> DOOM Official DOOM Support Echo
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> INK Desktop Publishing & Word Processing
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> MICROCOM Microcom Modem Support Echo
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 8 19 Sep 1994
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> MUSE Muse Studio (Poetry Discussion)
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> OLDTRUCK Old Trucks and Related Topics
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> REENACT Reenacting & Living History Echo
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> STOP_SMOKING Stop Smoking
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> TRIBBS_SUPPORT TriBBS Support - The Official Conference
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Echotag changes
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< HST US Robotics high speed modem disc. [old name]
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> USR_MODEMS US Robotics high speed modem disc. [new name]
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Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone
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< CRASH (not in EchoList since 3/1/94)
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< DBTECH (not in EchoList since 9/1/93)
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< QNX QNX Software Systems LTD QNX OS
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< SCIFOR VortexNet/c-128 Support conference
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o There are 625 echos in fidonet.na [04-Sep-94] (up 3)
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o There are 43 echos in fidonet.no [04-Sep-94] (up 6)
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o for a total of 668 backbone & quasi-backbone echos (up 9)
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o two echos, BIBLE & HOBBIES, are available from the Zone STARS but
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not in the FidoNet bundles from Planet Connect.
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Traffic Violations Bureau
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Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Canada
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My Dear Doctor Logger,
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What a surprise to have arrived here in Winnipeg on the one day a
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year that people actually go out of doors. This city almost
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certainly possesses a climate that is overly mean even for this
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country, and has reacted by burrowing underground.
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I'm certain that there is no other burg on the planet that
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actually prohibits pedestrians from crossing the street at its
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busiest intersection. Here in Winnipeg, they've actually built
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earthworks that resemble an 18th century fortress around the
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intersection, just in case someone would be foolish enough to
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both be outside and attempt to cross the street. Obviously, the
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city fathers were unaware that, once every 20 years or so, there
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is an exception from the usual two weather options, being: 40
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below zero, or; huge swarms of insects. Needless to say, Ms.
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LaBamba created something of a stir by insisting upon crossing
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the street, and doing so while clad in her leopard-skin Lambada
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dancing outfit.
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Please advise Sylvia that there may be some correspondence
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forthcoming from the Winnipeg Traffic Violations Bureau. Some
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people just have no sense of humour. Did I mention that I could
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 9 19 Sep 1994
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use a small sum of money to bail out Ms. Labamba? Ten thousand or
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so, preferably in small, unmarked bills would be most convenient.
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Back to business. I must confess to having spent the last week
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convinced that our beloved RC had passed on to his reward. Not a
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sign of him anywhere, and believe me, I have searched in every
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massage parlour, table-dance emporium, and cheesy watering hole
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on the prairies. It hasn't been pretty.
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I even detoured through a place called Gimli, which has a unique
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blend of Icelandic, Ukrainian and Cree inhabitants, after hearing
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a strange report of a huge windsurfing competition being held
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there. Naturally, I went there because I felt it would have been
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a perfect place for an RC to hide, and not to witness svelt, wet
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young ladies with butt-floss bikinis riding windsurfers. But,
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sadly, there was no sign of the RC there either. I did, however,
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partake in the cultural oddity of eating perogies, served by a
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thick ankled, near-albino woman dressed in feathers, in the
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"Valhalla" restaurant, which is tastefully decorated in native
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mandallas. And they say Quebec is distinct. Go figure.
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But finally, after all the searching and waiting, the RC appeared
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in the most unlikely place - the regional echo which he
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'moderates.' Needless to say, it was heartening to see evidence
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that Rick "Weekend at Bernies" Johnston was, in fact, alive. It
|
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was somewhat less than heartening to see that his first message
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to his adoring grunt sysops was a protracted paranoid whine that
|
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seemed to insinuate that dark, evil forces are at work in
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preventing him from performing those highly technical duties of
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distributing the nodelist and the 'snooze.
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I think he must be right. In fact, I think the reasons for his
|
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many, many absences, the erratic gunboat diplomacy that has led
|
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him to defrock elected NCs, and now the inability to promulgate
|
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|
the regional nodelists can only be explained by one thing -- The
|
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CIA.
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I don't think that it's any coincidence that the Excited States
|
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|
of Murrica is about to invade Haiti at the same time Region 12 is
|
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undermined from within. If you don't believe me, do you think its
|
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|
a coincidence that Mark Skaff has now returned to Net163 AND that
|
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it's been proven that Elvis' body was actually a large, sweaty
|
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wax replica? I didn't think so. I'll get to the bottom of this,
|
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|
Logger, I'm off to Washington D.C. as soon as I rescue Ms.
|
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LaBamba and Sylvia resolves the little matter of my Calgary
|
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travel expenses. (Honestly, as if I was the first person to ever
|
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hire naked country line dancers. I needed to witness the Western
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ambiance firsthand. So to speak.)
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|
I also understand that net250's squabbles grow deeper, and, in
|
|||
|
order to receive mail, various factions have now purchased
|
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satellite dishes, which they waggle menacingly at one another.
|
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|
The Almighty has already expressed His opinion of this occurence,
|
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by spiking a few zillion volts into one of them via a Thor-like
|
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|
lightning bolt. As your spiritual advisor, I'd offer up this
|
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FidoNews 11-38 Page: 10 19 Sep 1994
|
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|
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|
incident as proof of divine justice, and would suggest that you
|
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|
keep your inbounds land-lined. Mind you, given the right weather,
|
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|
one can roast a chicken extremely quickly with one of those
|
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dishes.
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I'll report in from Washington posthaste.
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Religiously Yours,
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Rev. Richard Visage
|
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Spiritual Advisor, Region 12
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NBA ECHO IS HERE!
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by Damian Stamm
|
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NBA_ECHO 1:273/406
|
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Here come Barkley down the lane......SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMM DUNK!!!!
|
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|
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|
Yes folks, its finally here. The long awaited and long overdue NBA_ECHO
|
|||
|
has finally reached the backbone for Fidonet. Basketball, which for too
|
|||
|
long was the only major sport not covered on the backbone, has finally
|
|||
|
gotten membership into this list of members.
|
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|
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|
A suffering Sixers fan, I have been attempting to get this on the
|
|||
|
backbone so I can get some moral support after a terrible '92-'93
|
|||
|
season. However, I love the Sixers draft, and am ready to battle it
|
|||
|
out with the New York fans who think they're hot stuff and the Chicago
|
|||
|
fans who believe Michael Joradan is God. Also, I am an aspiring sports
|
|||
|
writer whose primary interest is basketball. This echo has the best
|
|||
|
basketball fans out there, from California to Philly, from Louisianna
|
|||
|
to Canada.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
There are plenty of basketball fans out there, and there are probably
|
|||
|
quite a few on your system. So don't throw a brick and miss the
|
|||
|
playoffs by not picking up this echo! Draft a Glenn Robinson by
|
|||
|
picking up the echo! Your users will thank you for it. :)
|
|||
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|
|||
|
For three.....ITS GOOD!
|
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Gr##e aus dem sch#nen Essen-Frohnhausen
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Greetings from the nice parts of my city named "Essen" and
|
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|
it's quarter called "Frohnhausen" in Germany
|
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|
Bernd
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|
Churches and their positions
|
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|
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|
From: bk@nub.fido.de
|
|||
|
Bernd Kehren on 2:2448/1400.9
|
|||
|
Germany
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|||
|
FidoNews 11-38 Page: 11 19 Sep 1994
|
|||
|
|
|||
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|
|||
|
A reply to Steve Boisvenue (1:167/319)
|
|||
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|
|||
|
First: There are more than one churches in the world. The katholic
|
|||
|
Church of Rome is a very large one and there are many small one
|
|||
|
in USA, but they are all different.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You write:
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|
|||
|
> 1- They claim homosexuality is unnatural, which can be proven to be
|
|||
|
> false with any trip to the zoo or into the wild.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
In my church, the "Evangelische Kirche im Rheinland", a protestantic
|
|||
|
church in Germany, there is a large discussion this year in every
|
|||
|
of their parishes about the question, if pairs of men, who want
|
|||
|
that, can get a blessing for their partnership. I hope, that the
|
|||
|
members of our Synode will decide that this is a possibility for
|
|||
|
our pastors.
|
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|
|||
|
You write:
|
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|
> 2- The church denies the fact that the world is over-populated, and
|
|||
|
> continues to loby to ban abortions and the use of birth controll.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This is not true. "The" church has different ideas about who to stop
|
|||
|
the growing of the world-population: No abortion, and there are many
|
|||
|
who say: Only "natural" family planning. But most of the churches
|
|||
|
I know say: We need the condom and we need the Anti-Baby-Pill.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You write:
|
|||
|
> 3- They want to ban euthanasia (mercy killing\right to die) in order
|
|||
|
> to "protect God's will." Yet, they support almost any medical act
|
|||
|
> to prolong the lives of, or revive people who would otherwise be dead.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
There would many to be to write. Only one remark: I don't know a
|
|||
|
church that supports _any_ medical act. I only know churches that
|
|||
|
support _human_ medical acts - and if analgesics would shorten
|
|||
|
life, it will be accepted.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You write:
|
|||
|
> 4- Women are still denied any high-level positions in the church.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
There are many protestantic churches (yet also the Anglicanic Church
|
|||
|
of England) with female priests or pastors. In Germany and in other
|
|||
|
contries round the world there are also female Bishops. A female
|
|||
|
leader of a church is only a question of time in many churches
|
|||
|
around the world.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
You write:
|
|||
|
> 5- The church is still activly lobbying for forced prayer in American
|
|||
|
> schools.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Well, I am in Germany, and here most of the churches are not lobbying
|
|||
|
for forced prayers in scholls.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Those are facts - and I am really not blind!
|
|||
|
FidoNews 11-38 Page: 12 19 Sep 1994
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Greetings from Germany
|
|||
|
bk-)
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Re-engineering of Net 700
|
|||
|
Chris Leung (6:700/703 aka 6:700/0)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please be informed that due to the following chaotic situations,
|
|||
|
Net700 will be dissolved and restarted afresh in order to get
|
|||
|
everything back to order.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. The former Network Coordinator (NC) still claims publicly that he
|
|||
|
is the N700C and continues to issue new node numbers to new sysops.
|
|||
|
He makes his own version of local nodelist and delivers it through
|
|||
|
the mail routing hubs to current fido sysops. With the help of
|
|||
|
the current Network Echomail Coordinator (NEC), the fact of the
|
|||
|
re-appointment of N700C by the RC is being denied and totally
|
|||
|
concealed from all Net700 members.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. Although notice has been issued to the NEC and HUBs about the
|
|||
|
change of NC, they still refuse to accept this fact. They are
|
|||
|
unwilling to cooperate with the new NC. Even worse, the NEC
|
|||
|
together with the mail routing hubs help distribute a fake
|
|||
|
international nodelist to all fido members. Although attempts
|
|||
|
have been made to deliver the genuine international nodelists to
|
|||
|
all sysops via HUBs, it seems that none gets delivered
|
|||
|
successfully. As per POLICY 4, such behaviour is considered to
|
|||
|
be excessively annoying.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3. Many current sysops refuse to accept the decision and appointment
|
|||
|
made by the RC. Being fido sysops, they should have read and
|
|||
|
agree to abide by FidoNet Policy currently in force. In other
|
|||
|
words, they should know and understand the procedures for NC
|
|||
|
appointment. Failing to do so is considered to be failing to
|
|||
|
observe POLICY 4.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The trouble stirred up the former NC+NEC party causes serious
|
|||
|
annoyance to many users. In view of this, the current structure of
|
|||
|
Net700 has to be dissolved and re-established. Details will be made
|
|||
|
available to Net700 sysops and users...
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNet is for fun, not for any power struggle!
|
|||
|
FidoNet is for friendship, not for making any enemy!
|
|||
|
FidoNet is for free communication, not for any censorship or control!
|
|||
|
FidoNet is for all, not just for any *C!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Thank you very much for your attention, and let's sing requiem to
|
|||
|
the chaotic Net700!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNews 11-38 Page: 13 19 Sep 1994
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
========================================================================
|
|||
|
Fidonews Information
|
|||
|
========================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees
|
|||
|
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
|||
|
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings
|
|||
|
"FidoNews" BBS
|
|||
|
FidoNet 1:1/23
|
|||
|
BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
more addresses:
|
|||
|
Rev. Richard Visage -- 1:163/409
|
|||
|
Don -- 1:221/192, don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
sylvia -- 1:221/194, max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
|||
|
FidoNews
|
|||
|
128 Church St.
|
|||
|
Kitchener, Ontario
|
|||
|
Canada
|
|||
|
N2H 2S4
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
max & Don voice: (519) 570-3137
|
|||
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|
|||
|
Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
|||
|
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
|||
|
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
|||
|
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
|
|||
|
does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in
|
|||
|
these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of
|
|||
|
FidoNews.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
|||
|
Copyright 1994 Sylvia Maxwell. All rights reserved. Duplication
|
|||
|
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use
|
|||
|
in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or the eds.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
|||
|
form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or
|
|||
|
Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
|
|||
|
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above paper-mail
|
|||
|
address, or trade for copy of your 'zine.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.fidonet.org,
|
|||
|
in directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Anyone interested in getting a copy of the INTERNET GATEWAY FAQ may
|
|||
|
freq GISFAQ.ZIP from 1:133/411.0, or send an internet message to
|
|||
|
fidofaq@gisatl.fidonet.org. No message or text or subject is
|
|||
|
FidoNews 11-38 Page: 14 19 Sep 1994
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
necessary. The address is a keyword that will trigger the automated
|
|||
|
response. People wishing to send inquiries directly to David Deitch
|
|||
|
should now mail to fidonet@gisatl.fidonet.org rather than the
|
|||
|
previously listed address.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
|||
|
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
|||
|
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
|
|||
|
from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
|||
|
trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"the pulse of the cursor is the heartbeat of fidonet"...
|
|||
|
-- END
|
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|
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