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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.10 No.17 (26-Apr-1993)
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| A newsletter of the | |
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| / \ | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| /|oo \ | +1-519-570-4176 1:1/23 |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | Editors: |
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| | | \ \\ | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| |__U__| / \// | Tim Pozar 1:125/555 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| Internet addresses: |
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| Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com |
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| Both Don & Sylvia (submission address) |
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| editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies and other boring but important details, |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 2
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2. Articles...................................................... 3
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The Cynic's Sandbox, v2.3- [Unregistered.].................. 3
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Response to LuxCon '93 Article in FNEWSA15.................. 4
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Tabulation of FidoNet Nodes by Country...................... 7
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SPEED READ v1.30 RELEASED *................................. 8
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Re: policy (as always)...................................... 10
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New Echo: MINI-PAINT........................................ 11
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Fido to internet............................................ 11
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NET 106 COMPASSION SHINES................................... 13
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 14
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FidoNews 10-17 Page: 2 26 Apr 1993
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Editorial
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There are lots of odds and ends for this editorial.
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First of all, we want to mention the Cynic's Sandbox, now in
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it's fourth week. I have always felt that a humour column would
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be nice to have in the snooze, and it was great to get a
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volunteer. Anybody wanting to correspond to the Cynic can
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address mail here (1:1/23), and we will forward it. I am sure
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that suggestions for articles would be more than welcome.
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Speaking of forwarding mail, there is a "name withheld by
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request" article in this issue. Anybody wanting to get through
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to the author can use this address as a mail drop. We will
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forward it.
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We got routed netmail claiming to have a file attached on
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Monday. The file (FNEWS.SUB) never arrived. The address that
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was used was not in the nodelist, so we could not respond. I am
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presuming that the article was not delivered for the same reason.
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If the author would like it printed, please send it again,
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preferably from a listed node. Otherwise crash it.
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We are both finding it interesting how mail comes in through
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the door. The "fringe" people tend to address it to Sylvia.
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The "political" types tend to address it to Donald. We have
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deliberately never let it be known just who writes these
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editorials (and have received letters demanding that we do,
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addressed to Donald, but never to Sylvia). It can remain one of
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life's little mysteries.
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We have started to work on a specification for newsletters.
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It would replace not only ARTSPEC.DOC, but also provide a
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framework for distributing a newsletter so that it could easily
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be imported into a door, or pseudo-echo. Anybody interested,
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please drop us a line.
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Last but not least, we received a letter this week expressing
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fatigue with the Gandhi quotation at the end of the snooze. That
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is a matter that I can relate to, though I also feel that it has
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become traditional enough not to mess with it<S>. Any thoughts
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out there? We have considered a tagline contest, with the
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winners being used on successive weeks ... but PLEASE do not
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start sending me taglines. It is an idea, nothing more. And
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maybe it should be left alone. We await replies with great
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anticipation.
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FidoNews 10-17 Page: 3 26 Apr 1993
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Articles
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The Cynic's Sandbox, v2.3- [Unregistered.]
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R. Cynic
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Fight-O-Net LIVES on Echos, you know. 'Tweren't for them,
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Fight-O-Netters might have to flame people in their home town.
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That gets kinda dangerous. It's much easier to call someone a
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commie-lovin' boot-lickin' pencil-necked geek when they're a
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good thousand miles away. I ain't complaining - I'm
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encouraging it! In the spirit of finding new places to say
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things you just wouldn't say in public, here's a couple new
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echos in the "SIP" Survival-in-progress tradition.
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New Echo announcement!
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SIP_REDNECK
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Are you a god-fearin' real American whose basic rights to get
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plastered, marry your sister, and shoot things have been
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infringed upon? Are you tired of "modern women" and them
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commie pinkos who wanna let ho-mo-sex-uALs into our great army?
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Do them danged "environmentalists" just make you ragin' mad?
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SIP_REDNECK is for you. We're here to let you know that it's
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OK to be yourself. Not with any sissy encounter groups, mind
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you. Our program is a man's 12-step program, you bet. Heck,
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we like to call it a 12-gauge program on account of you get to
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shoot things with one.
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Aliases are encouraged, just so long as they sound MANLY. No
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sissy names here. 'Fact, if you ain't named Joe Bob, Bubba, or
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Junior, there ain't much room for ya.
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For a feed (And it's GOOD eatin'), drop us a line. Hear?
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Joe Bob Bubba Junior
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SIP_SYSOP
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Two hours ago, you decided to fix this last little problem with
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1200 baud connects. Now, you're a raving lunatic who's just
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bitten through his modem cord and is eyeing your dog with
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thoughts of revenge on SOMETHING named Fight-O. You need help.
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People you can talk to. People who UNDERSTAND what it feels
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like at 3 in the morning when national mail hour has come and
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gone and you're struggling with your unregistered copy of
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Frontdoor in a vain attempt to make the thing dial your hub.
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You need someone to yell at because Caller*ID is so much less
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then you'd thought. Because your mom is going to take your
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phone line away. Because the feds might know about your
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"elite" section and your 3rd grade teacher has just logged on
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and asked for access to the adult area you've stocked with the
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FidoNews 10-17 Page: 4 26 Apr 1993
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rauchiest GIFs you could find.
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You need the kind of well-intentioned psycho-babble that
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Fight-O-Net is so happy to provide.
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You need SIP_SYSOP. Pick it up now.
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SIP_LEECH
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It's tough being a leech. After a while, even your gigantic
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hard drive gets filled up with programs you've never registered
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or even decompressed. The whine of a high speed connect doesn't
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seem to excite as much as it used to. You need the support of
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others. Others that can understand why you simply must have
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everything.
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SIP_LEECHers support eachother. Someday, we hope to force all
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sysops to provide one command that transfers every file on
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their drives to yours. Imagine the savings in typing alone!
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SIP_LEECH. Backbone status invertebrate.
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Response to LuxCon '93 Article in FNEWSA15
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Name withheld by request
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"NON-Con"
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My first thought at seeing the news of a Fido convention in Luxemburg
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was that Joaquim Homrighausen was definitely going to be there. Sure
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enough, there's his name on the list of convention organizers.
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Next up we have the date of the convention. July 4th Weekend. Good
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time for conventions, since almost everyone has vacation at that time.
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Everyone in America, that is. But it's less than three months away.
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Isn't that awfully short notice for a convention like this?
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Then we have the location. The HOTEL SAINT NICHOLAS, a "four star
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hotel". The description: "SAINT NICOLAS is a Best Western Hotel with
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everything that is to be expected of a four-star Hotel". Ahem. Best
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Western is the equivalent of a Holiday Inn with delusions of Grandeur. A
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cut above the normal motor lodge, but certainly NOT a four-star hotel.
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Next on the agenda is, er, the AGENDA. :-) On Friday, we have three
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hours of checking in, and two hours of dinner. Boy, Friday went by
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fast. Then on Saturday, we have two hours of breakfast, two and a
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half hours of "product presentations and other sessions" (see below),
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an hour and a half for lunch (hey, what if it normally takes me two
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hours to eat?), another four hours of political and technical
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discussions, and then two hours for dinner and a raffle (oh boy!). On
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Sunday, we have a two hour breakfast, followed by two hours of kicking
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everyone out on the street so they don't get to have lunch, wrapped up
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by the annual hard disk throwing contest. Boy, what a busy weekend.
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Let's look at this - 9.5 hours of eating, and 8.5 hours of events -
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two of which are spent throwing around computer equipment, excluding
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FidoNews 10-17 Page: 5 26 Apr 1993
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whatever gets thrown around during the "political" discussions.
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Now we get to the good stuff. From the article:
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> We are currently looking for speakers (political and technical)
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> for the sessions and companies to sponsor the prices given away
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> during the Saturday evening raffle ("lottery") and the harddisk
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> throwing contest.
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Let me get this straight. The convention is less than three months
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away as I write this, and there aren't even any speakers or sponsors
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yet. As for the "prices" being given away, how costly are they?
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> Several activities are available to those who do not wish to take
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> part in the sessions.
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At least there are alternatives for people who travel to Luxemburg and
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find they are not interested in the convention (although why I'd
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travel halfway around the world to stay at a motor lodge when there's
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one half a mile from my house completely escapes me...)
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>TRAVEL DIRECTIONS
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> To be announced as we go along.. watch this space.
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> Plane
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> Train
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> Car
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You know, I saw that movie starring Steve Martin and John Candy, and
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frankly, I don't relish the idea at all. And NO, those aren't
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pillows. Less than three months to go, and not even the people
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running it know how to get there.
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> PARTICIPATION FEE
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> The participation fee is LUF 5500.-, wich covers the sessions,
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> conference literature, all meals from Friday evening to Sunday
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> morning (inclusive), an official LuxCon/EuroCon '93 t-shirt,
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> two nights in a double room (double occupancy) at the Hotel.
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Nowhere in the article are rates of conversion mentioned - such as to
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US dollars. I called up my bank, and asked them about foreign
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currency exchange rates. They directed me to a currency exchange
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brokerage firm. The lady I spoke to was very helpful, and told me
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that the current rate of exchange on Luxemburg Francs to US Dollars is
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30 to the Dollar. That's 3 1/3 cents.
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Which means the cost of this little shindig is about $150.00 US.
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Only 150 dollars for a trade convention? Exsqueeze me? Baking powder?
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Most of the Fido cons usually run into the multiple hundreds. Then again,
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they're usually here in the US at more expensive hotels, and they already
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have a complete schedule, sponsors, and events that span all three days of
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the convention. You get to spend a lot more time actually doing something
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FidoNews 10-17 Page: 6 26 Apr 1993
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other than eating.
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Let's break this down.
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The average cost for a Holiday Inn in a major US city, is around
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80-100 dollars per night for a double occupancy. According to the
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convention rates, single occupancy for two nights' stay is 1000 LUF, or
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$33.33. That's very inexpensive for a "four-star" hotel. Here in the US,
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those rates can only be seen in flop-houses or motels that charge by the
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hour (clean sheets are extra). If three people share the room, it's only
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$16.67 each. For the conference itself, without the hotel, it's $116.67.
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That would seem fair, except for the fact that there are currently no
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sponsors, no real events, and only 8.5 hours of it. Well, it does include
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the Saturday lunch, but considering the low hotel rates, I doubt that would
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be more than 10 bucks. Late registration is 25 bucks. That seems about
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right.
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With that kind of money, however, finding speakers to attend is going to be
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difficult. For one thing, the convention is only a few months away, and
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for another, there's not enough money to pay for bringing them to the
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convention and paying for their airfare, hotel and meals. Any speaker who
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goes to this convention will be paying most of his expenses out of pocket,
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and overseas airfare to Europe is very expensive. Most convention guests
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and speakers turn down such conventions if they find out that they have to
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pay for everything themselves.
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And how do we pay for this convention, I hear you ask. Simple. Go to
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your bank, and have the funds transferred to Joaquim Homrighausen's
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private bank account. Every convention I've ever seen, including the
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little rinky-dink cons run by college kids and held in a student union
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building have a business account that accepts credit cards, money orders,
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and checks. Sorry folks, but I wouldn't trust any convention that wants me
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to pay for it by making a direct deposit into someone's personal bank
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account. Because if something goes wrong with the con and you can't make
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it, you can't stop payment on a check or a credit card charge. The moment
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you make the transaction at the bank, your money is spent. It's up to you,
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of course. With the tenuous existence of the convention as it currently
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stands with no real scheduled speakers, sponsors, or financial backing,
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it's akin to putting your life savings on "Glue Factory" to win in the
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third race.
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What really sticks in my craw is the fact that it's Joaquim Homrighausen's
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personal bank account. Over the past year I've heard too many rumors about
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bad financial dealings with Joho. I don't know if any of them are true. I
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personally don't care. But when there are so many people up in arms about
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it (those of you who have participated in the FDECHO conference for over a
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year know what I'm talking about), I really have to give a good hard think
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about putting my money into his personal bank account.
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Caveat Emptor: "Let the buyer beware". What's the Latin phrase for "Let
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the buyer run screaming for his life"?
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Tabulation of FidoNet Nodes by Country
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Don Daniels
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I happened to have these numbers and thought that some of you
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might also find them to be of interest.
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The following list totals, by country or territory, the
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number of nodes in the April 16, 1993 Nodelist. Duplicate
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phone number entries have been removed. For comparison's
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sake, the totals are also provided from the nodelist of
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January 22, 1989.
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TABULATION OF FIDONET NODES BY COUNTRY
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93/04/16 89/01/22
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10335 - United States 3003
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1884 - Germany 88
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1878 - Canada 423
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768 - Australia 178
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725 - Netherlands 201
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582 - United Kingdom 147
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550 - Sweden 109
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440 - Russia *
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328 - Italy 79
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303 - Denmark 51
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241 - Taiwan 42
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205 - Belgium 28
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174 - Finland 96
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165 - Ukraine
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140 - Spain 15
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139 - Brazil
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136 - New Zealand 6
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123 - Switzerland 28
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119 - Singapore 23
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116 - Austria 14
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86 - Czech Republic *
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82 - South Africa 19
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64 - France 6
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63 - Israel 17
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44 - Greece
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41 - Bulgaria
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36 - Poland
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36 - Philippines
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29 - Hungary
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25 - Luxembourg
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24 - Estonia
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17 - Latvia
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16 - Thailand 3
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15 - Moldavia
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2 - Virgin Islands
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1 - Aruba
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1 - Bermuda
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1 - Botswana 1
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1 - Dominican Republic
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1 - Ethiopia
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1 - India
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1 - Mauritius
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1 - Peru
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1 - Romania
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1 - Senegal
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1 - Tunisia
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1 - Uganda
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1 - Zambia
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1 - Zimbabwe
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0 - Indonesia 14
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0 - Venezuela 3
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0 - Suriname 1
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* Marked names may include multiple countries
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SPEED READ v1.30 RELEASED *
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Contact: Jim Smith
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Internet: jim.smith@the-matrix.com
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FidoNews 10-17 Page: 9 26 Apr 1993
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April 22, 1993: Jim Smith, author of SPEED READ and SEdit, announced
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the release of SPEED READ version 1.30 today. SPEED is a QWK compatible
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offline message base manager. SPEED treats offline reading much like a
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BBS. It allows the user to specify a number of old messages to keep in
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each conference and each new packet updates the message base. This
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gives the user seamless access to old messages while reading new ones.
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Speed v1.0 was released in November of 1991. Since then, Jim Smith has
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become well known for his dedicated user support and consistent update
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work.
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This release follows closely Jim's March 1993 releas of v1.0 of a text
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editor called SEdit, designed for small tasks like message writing.
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Like SEdit, Speed is a shareware product, and the registration cost is
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$25. Registered users of SEdit and those who register both products at
|
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the same time receive a 20% discount.
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New features in v1.30 include:
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- Wide/long message support and the ability to handle long/wide replies!
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Messages/replies can be:
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* Up to 32,000 bytes.
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* Up to 1,000 lines.
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* Up to 32,000 columns.
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- User-defined keyboard macros, with descriptions.
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|||
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- Ability to attach files to messages when using doors that support this
|
|||
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feature, and the ability to request files attached to a message.
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- Carbon Copies.
|
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- Ability to forward a message.
|
|||
|
- Symbolic Language Toggle to help filter high-bit ASCII characters from
|
|||
|
the read message screen.
|
|||
|
- Totally rewritten sorting routines. They are *MUCH* faster.
|
|||
|
- Configurable default sort option.
|
|||
|
- Support for PostLink networking software.
|
|||
|
- Stripping of "RE:" and "(R)" prefixes from subject lines.
|
|||
|
- Ability to search for multiple strings.
|
|||
|
- Word wrap toggle key to wrap long lines while reading messages.
|
|||
|
- New status bar displays row/col information, number of lines in the
|
|||
|
message and the number of unread messages in the active conference.
|
|||
|
- Option to choose between new SPAWNO code and old SWAP code when
|
|||
|
swapping SPEED out to run an external application.
|
|||
|
- The BBS window displays the number of unread personal messages for
|
|||
|
each BBS.
|
|||
|
- Automatic copying of SESSION.TXT to the message base directory during
|
|||
|
an import; it can be viewed from the conference window.
|
|||
|
- User-defined page breaks and reply message lenths.
|
|||
|
- Toggle to display "[SPEED]" when shelled to DOS.
|
|||
|
- Header information is no longer included when editing a reply for
|
|||
|
compatability with Tag Line eXpress.
|
|||
|
- Toggle to filter lines beginning with CTRL-A '
|
|||
|
FidoNews 10-17 Page: 10 26 Apr 1993
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
Re: policy (as always)
|
|||
|
scot art 3:712/634
|
|||
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|
|||
|
RATIFIED by a Quorum of the Politburo, Fidonet General Congress
|
|||
|
of the Supreme Soviet, Democratic Central Planning Committee and
|
|||
|
Forced Collectivisation Bureau, with the permission of joint
|
|||
|
DoD/CIA Latin American Foreign Policy Unit, in secret session as
|
|||
|
directed by Col O.North on this day, April 1st 1993.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PROCLAIMED BY His Excellency El Presidente R.Murdoch,
|
|||
|
Self-Appointed Guardian of Democracy, Moral Virtue, and Media
|
|||
|
Relations on this day and by His Offical Seal, 5 pm 1st April
|
|||
|
1993.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Now for something completely serious - my proposal for a 5 point
|
|||
|
simplified english and generally enlightening fidonet policy:
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1: Fidonet is a not-for-profit community of people interested in
|
|||
|
open, widely available, and non-discriminatory communication for
|
|||
|
the minimum cost possible.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2: The cardinal sins are to be excessively annoying, and to be
|
|||
|
excessively annoyed. Preventing item (1) from occurring is
|
|||
|
regarded as overly excessively annoying. Breaches of the other
|
|||
|
items in this policy are regarded as normally excessively
|
|||
|
annoying.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3: Communications originating in fidonet must be in compliance
|
|||
|
with the spirit and letter of this policy, and non-commercial in
|
|||
|
nature. Communications should also be in accordance with the
|
|||
|
various laws of at least the nation of origination. Please note
|
|||
|
this is not a endorsement on the part of Fidonet of any
|
|||
|
particular nation or set of national laws, but a reflection on
|
|||
|
the reality of getting busted by the cops and the fact that most
|
|||
|
laws fulfil at least =some= useful social function.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4: Membership of fidonet is open to any person who operates a
|
|||
|
telecommunications system which is available for inbound fidonet
|
|||
|
communications during their designated geographical mail hour.
|
|||
|
Members must also fulfil the minimum requirement of being able
|
|||
|
to communicate with other fidonet members in a rational manner
|
|||
|
in accordance with this policy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
5: Operators of fidonet systems open to the public's use have
|
|||
|
both the right and responsibility of supplying and regulating
|
|||
|
access to fidonet communication. Fidonet members are personally
|
|||
|
responsible for all communications entering fidonet from their
|
|||
|
system, particularly their compliance or not with this policy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
thanks,
|
|||
|
scot@asstdc.oz.au
|
|||
|
scot art 3:712/634
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
PS to all those who want a complex electoral system for choosing
|
|||
|
FidoNews 10-17 Page: 11 26 Apr 1993
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
our mail handlers and dispute settlers embedded into policy,
|
|||
|
please define exactly what you mean by "democracy", how voting
|
|||
|
achieves it, and how this so-called "democracy" fixes our
|
|||
|
problems.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
New Echo: MINI-PAINT
|
|||
|
Steve Lamb, 1:203/1369.0
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'm starting a new echo dedicated to the discussion of "lead"
|
|||
|
miniatures common to today's RPGs. However, they need not be from
|
|||
|
and RPG or made of lead. We'll talk about the miniatures themselves,
|
|||
|
what paints to use to paint them, what to use to paint them, and other
|
|||
|
such oddities. In the future, if there is interest, other resin and
|
|||
|
vinyl models may be included.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
If you are interested in participating in this echo feel free to
|
|||
|
send netmail to me, Steve Lamb, at 1:203/1369. The tag is MINI-PAINT
|
|||
|
and I'll add you on as soon as I read the message.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: Benjy Arnold (2:254/1.3)
|
|||
|
Fido to internet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Hi there!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This is a file which I reply with whenever anyone asks for information
|
|||
|
concerning fidonet to internet... how about it for FidoNews?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Benjy
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
[ - - - - - - - - T e a r H e r e - - - - - - - - ]
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNet to InterNet - The Answers
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This is a very asked question within the realms of Communications
|
|||
|
echoes within FidoNet, and so this is an explantion of the method for
|
|||
|
transfer of messages from one system to the other.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The system which is used is called UUCP (UNIX to UNIX Copy Program I
|
|||
|
think).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sending a message from FidoNet to InterNet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The first stage is locating a gateway system which can transfer (or
|
|||
|
gate) the messages from one system to the other. These are systems
|
|||
|
which have the string "GUUCP" within their nodelist entry.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The primary gateway system within the world is located on Bink of an
|
|||
|
Aye BBS in the USA - address 1:105/42. To send the message, simply send
|
|||
|
a netmail message addressed to user "UUCP" at this address, with a
|
|||
|
normal subject line. Then, type on the first line of the message
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNews 10-17 Page: 12 26 Apr 1993
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To: aaa.bbb@ccc.ddd.eee.fff
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Where the aaa.bbb@ccc.ddd.eee.fff is the InterNet address to which you
|
|||
|
are sending the message. This should be followed by a blank line, and
|
|||
|
then the text of the message.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
It is important to note that the addresses must be organised with small
|
|||
|
end first. This means that in the UK, for example, the ".UK" is the
|
|||
|
last part of the address, instead of placing "UK." as the first parts
|
|||
|
after the "@" character.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sending a message from InterNet to FidoNet
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This process is even easier. The first stage is to create an
|
|||
|
InterNet-type address out of your FidoNet reference. The basic method
|
|||
|
is to make the address like this (non case-sensitive).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Firstname.Surname@Ppoint.Fnode.Nnet.Zzone.FIDONET.ORG
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
To explain this better, I'll go through the splitting up of my reference.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
First Name Benjy
|
|||
|
Second Name Arnold
|
|||
|
Zone 2
|
|||
|
Network 254
|
|||
|
Node 1
|
|||
|
Point 3
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This then becomes Benjy.Arnold@p3.f1.n254.z2.fidonet.org
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(The "P3." part is only needed if you are on a point system.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Then, simply post a message on InterNet addressed to this address. It
|
|||
|
will be picked up at FidoNet address 1:105/42, and then sent by routed
|
|||
|
netmail to you on FidoNet.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoUK
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
There is a gateway system in the UK located on Barney's Rubble BBS,
|
|||
|
address 2:253/153. The correct alias, for UUCP access however, is
|
|||
|
2:25/25. To go from FidoNet to InterNet, the message is sent in exactly
|
|||
|
the same way, except to "UUCP" at 2:25/25 instead of 1:105/42. To route
|
|||
|
messages from InterNet to FidoNet via this gateway, however, you must
|
|||
|
place "fidouk.fidonet.org" on the end of the InterNet address, instead
|
|||
|
of just "fidonet.org".
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
NB: At the time of writing, 16 April 1993, this gateway system is down
|
|||
|
due to (I think) the Sysop moving house.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Other Information
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I have a large amount of other information - such as book titles etc -
|
|||
|
concerning this inter-domain gating.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Please netmail me if necessary.
|
|||
|
FidoNews 10-17 Page: 13 26 Apr 1993
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNet : Benjy Arnold at 2:254/1.3
|
|||
|
InterNet : benjy.arnold@p3.f1.n254.z2.fidouk.fidonet.org
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
NET 106 COMPASSION SHINES
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
By Mike Griffin
|
|||
|
NET 106 Helps Fellow SysOps
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
As I thought about the disaster that happened to a couple who ran a
|
|||
|
popular BBS in the NET 106 area, I had to look at my family, my
|
|||
|
surroundings, my life and my kingdom and imagine what it would be
|
|||
|
like to loose everything I had with the exception of my family. It is
|
|||
|
a scary thought when you think about a raging fire that could, in an
|
|||
|
instant, destroy everything you worked so had for.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Lisa and Gary Jackson were totally wiped out when a fire destroyed
|
|||
|
their Conroe Texas home. As the fire department arrived, the fire had
|
|||
|
taken it's toll on their 3 bedroom mobile home and totally burned it
|
|||
|
to the frame. Nothing survived the fire except Lisa, Gary and their
|
|||
|
two twin sons. The only personal items they had were the clothes on
|
|||
|
their backs. I still get chills when I think about that happening to
|
|||
|
me.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Lisa and Gary were members of FIDO and ran a very popular BBS called
|
|||
|
CSI Online in the Conroe/Houston area. They were very active in
|
|||
|
several local echos and even hubbed a few locals that were really
|
|||
|
popular. Their BBS was one of the best in Conroe and also allowed
|
|||
|
users who were long distance to Houston the opportunity to converse
|
|||
|
with Houston users because they had a Houston line installed. They
|
|||
|
were a distributor for NET 106 to Conroe BBS's that were long
|
|||
|
distance to the NET 106 Hub.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
We were shocked to hear the news of such a tragedy within the net and
|
|||
|
a few of us came up with some ideas. There were several FIDO members
|
|||
|
who instantly made contributions of clothing, food and money to help
|
|||
|
them get their feet back on the ground. I was amazed at the response
|
|||
|
by FIDO net members in the 106 area who were giving time, money and
|
|||
|
other things at such a fast rate. It wasn't no time at all and they
|
|||
|
were starting to get things back in order. We still needed to give
|
|||
|
them a boost. Something that would give them a boost mentally as
|
|||
|
well as financially. Thus the CSI BBQ Benefit was born. Several of us
|
|||
|
within NET 106 decided to get together and hold a BBQ Benefit for the
|
|||
|
Jacksons. Several weeks of planning produced one of the best NET get
|
|||
|
togethers of all time. We had the BBQ catered by a friend and charged
|
|||
|
10.00 a plate for adults and 5.00 a plate for children. We had live
|
|||
|
music provided by Angie Beck and Tejas, in which Gary plays lead
|
|||
|
guitar for Tejas. There were pinatas for the kiddies and lots of good
|
|||
|
time and cheer to be passed around. Several NET 106 sysops donated
|
|||
|
spare computer parts and some of the user community donated other
|
|||
|
items and we had an auction. The purpose was met as we did raise
|
|||
|
money for the Jacksons and a couple of NET 106 sysops even wanted to
|
|||
|
lend out hardware to get them back online again. We had a local radio
|
|||
|
FidoNews 10-17 Page: 14 26 Apr 1993
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
celebrity from KLDE show up. (CSI started a local echo for open
|
|||
|
discussion with the KLDE DJ.)
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The afternoon was a great opportunity for all of us to show that we
|
|||
|
do care and are willing to help each other out when we are in need.
|
|||
|
I am truly proud to be a part of NET 106. The compassion within this
|
|||
|
net goes above and beyond any that I have ever seen in any other
|
|||
|
organization. Sysops are real people and I think NET 106 has the best!
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
========================================================================
|
|||
|
Fidonews Information
|
|||
|
========================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Tim Pozar
|
|||
|
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello,
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
IMPORTANT NOTE: The FidoNet address of the FidoNews BBS has been
|
|||
|
changed!!! Please make a note of this.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"FidoNews" BBS
|
|||
|
FidoNet 1:1/23 <---- NEW ADDRESS!!!!
|
|||
|
BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14200/V.32bis/HST(DS)
|
|||
|
Internet addresses:
|
|||
|
Don & Sylvia (submission address)
|
|||
|
editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
|||
|
Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
(Postal Service mailing address) (have extreme patience)
|
|||
|
FidoNews
|
|||
|
172 Duke St. E.
|
|||
|
Kitchener, Ontario
|
|||
|
Canada
|
|||
|
N2H 1A7
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Published weekly by and for the members of the FidoNet international
|
|||
|
amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual
|
|||
|
articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The
|
|||
|
contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
|
|||
|
rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
|
|||
|
of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
|||
|
copyright 1993 Sylvia Maxwell. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or
|
|||
|
distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in
|
|||
|
other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or FidoNews
|
|||
|
(we're easy).
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNews 10-17 Page: 15 26 Apr 1993
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OBTAINING COPIES: The-most-recent-issue-ONLY of FidoNews in electronic
|
|||
|
form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or
|
|||
|
Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
|
|||
|
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained from Fido Software for $10.00US each
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A very nice index to the Tables of Contents to all FidoNews volumes
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and
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Asked what he thought of Western civilization,
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M.K. Gandhi said, "I think it would be an excellent idea".
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