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F I D O N E W S -- | Vol. 8 No. 31 (5 August 1991)
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/ \ | "FidoNews" BBS
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/|oo \ | (415)-863-2739
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|__U__| / \// | Editors:
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_//|| _\ / | Tom Jennings
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(_/(_|(____/ | Tim Pozar
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Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international
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amateur network. Copyright 1991, Fido Software. All rights reserved.
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only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews.
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Paper price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5.00US
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ..................................................... 1
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Boring Editorial .............................................. 1
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2. FIDONET NEWS .................................................. 2
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(No FidoNetNews this week) .................................... 2
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3. ARTICLES ...................................................... 3
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Time to license those evil computer programmers! .............. 3
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Multiple Sclerosis Support Echo ............................... 7
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Abstract: Electronic Frontier Foundation's EFFECTOR ONLINE .... 8
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APL For the ubiquitous Personal Computer ...................... 14
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THE MEDIUM AND THE MESSAGE .................................... 15
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IS THE NODELIST TOO LONG? ..................................... 17
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Conforming to the Lowest Common Denomitator ................... 21
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4. RANTS AND FLAMES .............................................. 23
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Calling for Congressional Investigations into UFOs! ........... 23
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Cens-or Nonsense .............................................. 24
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5. CLASSIFIEDS ................................................... 26
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6. NOTICES ....................................................... 27
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A_THEIST Echo now on Backbone! ................................ 27
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The Interrupt Stack ........................................... 28
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POWER Echo Conference ......................................... 28
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Solidarity Day '91 ............................................ 29
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7. LATEST VERSIONS ............................................... 30
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Latest Greatest Software Versions ............................. 30
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EDITORIAL
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Boring Editorial
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Tom Jennings
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Absolutely nothing to say. So I'll resist temptation and shut up now. Bye!
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Well OK, just this one thing. I had a really nice-looking notice for the
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upcoming FIDOCON '91 happening in Denver Colorado, August 17 - 18, but I
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lost it, as it didn't come in as a properly formatted article, but routed
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through a few different computer networks and ended up in the UUCP message
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area, where I promptly dropped it.
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Everyone who is no-one will be there. Schmooze time deluxe. Hell, I hate
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boring techy sessions as much as the next mammal, but hey, I love to stay
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up late drinking beer and coffee alternately (my brother calls is a poor-
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man's speed-ball) and talking and arguing. What else are these things for??
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(I can't tell you -- I lost the annoucement.)
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BE THERE OR BE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!
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issues within the FidoNet -- FidoNet Technical Standards Committee
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reports, *C reports, information on FidoNet standards documents
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There were no FidoNetNews submissions this week. Tune again in
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next week!
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Time to license those evil computer programmers!
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Gary Vedvik 1:102/1006
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New Jersey, that state which has lately proved to be "the toughest in
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the nation" by trampling on its residents is once again attempting to
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reach all new lows. Now, what has this got to do with programming...?
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A bill has passed in the assembly that would require the licensing of
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computer programmers -- to protect the public interest, of course.
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Lord knows the number of times I've been accosted in pizza parlors,
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late at night, by renegade bands of unlicensed programmers. Well, now
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we'll be able to control these low-lifes.
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If you think I'm kidding, read on. What follows is Assembly Bill
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A-4414, which has already passed the assembly. AT&T has estimated that
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it would need to license over 5,000 people in New Jersey alone, and
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there is nothing in the bill that differentiates home from business
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use.
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So watch out: besides being arrested for legally buying a gun 20 years
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ago, you could also be arrested for modifying a DOS batch file!
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New Jersey and you. Perfect together?
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"I enjoy working with human beings, and John M. Ritter
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have stimulating relationships with them." Allied-Signal, Inc
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- HAL 9000 Corporate Tax Dept
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jmr@motown.Allied.COM {att,bellcore,clyde,princeton,rutgers}!motown!jmr
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PS: I don't think there are any errors in what follows, but no
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promises.
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[SECOND REPRINT]
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ASSEMBLY, No. 4414
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STATE OF NEW JERSEY
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INTRODUCED JANUARY 24, 1991
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by Assemblywoman KALIK, Assemblymen CASEY,
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Spadoro and Mazur
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AN ACT providing for the licensure of software [engineers] designers'
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amending P.L.1971, c.60, P.L.1974, c.46 and P.L.1978,c.73, and
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supplementing Title 45 of the Revised Statutes.
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BE IT ENACTED by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New
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Jersey:
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1. (New section) This act shall be known and may be cited as the
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"Software [Engineers'] Designers' Licensing Act."
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2. (New section) The Legislature finds and declares that the public
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interest requires the regulation of the practice of software
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[engineering] designing and the establishment of clear licensure
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standards for software [engineers] designers' and that the welfare of
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the citizens of this State will be protected by identifying to the
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public those individuals who are qualified and legally authorized to
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practice software [engineering] designing.
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3. (New section) As used in this act:
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"Board" means the State Board of Software [Engineers] Designers'
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established pursuant to section 4 of this act.
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"Licensed software [engineer] designer"' means any person who
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practices software [engineering] designing and who represents himself
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to the public by title or by description of services under any title
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incorporating such terms as "software engineer," "software'
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designer'," "chartered engineer," or "CEng" or any similar title or
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description of services, who is duly licensed pursuant to this act.
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"Software [engineering] designing"' means the process of creating
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software systems and applies to techniques that reduce software cost
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and complexity while increasing reliability and modifiability, which
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includes, but is not limited to, the elements of requirements
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[engineering] designing design specification, implementation testing
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and validation, operation and maintenance and software management.
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4. (New section) There is created within the Division of Consumer
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Affairs in the Department of Law and Public Safety the State Board of
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Software [Engineers] Designers'. The board shall consist of nine
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members who are residents of the State who shall be appointed by the
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Governor. Six members shall be licensed software [engineers] designers'
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who have been actively engaged in software [engineering] designing for
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at least five years immediately preceding their appointment, except that
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the members initially appointed shall be licensed pursuant to this act
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within 18 months of appointment. Of the remaining members, two shall be
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public members, and one shall be a member of the executive branch, all
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of whom shall be appointed pursuant to section 2 of P.L.1971, c.60
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(C.45:1-2.2).
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5. (New section) Each member of the board, except the members first
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appointed, shall serve for a term of five years and shall hold office
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until the appointment and qualification of his successor. The initial
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appointment to the board shall be: two members for terms of two years,
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two members for terms of three years, two members for terms of four
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years, and three members for terms of five years. Vacancies shall be
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filled for the unexpired term only. No member may be appointed for more
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than two consecutive terms.
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6. (New section) Members of the board shall be compensated and
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reimbursed for expenses and provided with office and meeting facilities
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pursuant to section 2 of P.L.1977, c.285 (C.45:1-2.5).
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7. (New section) The board shall annually elect from among its members
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a chair, vice-chair and a secretary. The board shall meet twice per
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year and may hold additional meetings as necessary to discharge its
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duties.
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8. (New section) The board shall:
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a. Review the qualifications of applicants for licensure;
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b. Insure the proper conduct and standards for examinations;
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c. Issue and renew licenses to software [engineers] designers'
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pursuant to this act;
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d. Refuse to admit to examination, refuse to issue, or suspend, revoke
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or fail to renew the license of a software [engineer] designer
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pursuant to the provisions of P.L.1978, c.73 (C.45:1-14 et seq.);
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e. Maintain a record of every software [engineer] designer licensed
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in the State, their places of business, places of residence and the
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date and number of their license;
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f. Establish fees pursuant to P.L.1974, c.46 (C.45:1-3.1 et seq.);
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g. Adopt and promulgate rules and regulations pursuant to the
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"Administrative Procedure Act," P.L.1968, c.410 (C.52:14B-1 et seq.)
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necessary to effectuate the purposes of this act.
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9. (New section) No person shall practice, or present himself as able
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to practice, software [engineering] designing unless he possesses a
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valid license as a software [engineer] designer in accordance with the
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provision of this act.
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10. (New section) The provisions of this act shall not be construed to
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prevent the following provided that no word, letter, abbreviation,
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insignia, sign, card or device is used to convey the impression that the
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person rendering the service is a licensed software [engineer]
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designer':
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a. Any person licensed to practice in this State under any other law
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from engaging in the practice for which he is licensed;
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b. Any person employed as a software [engineer] designer by the
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federal government, if the person provides software [engineering]
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designing services solely under the direction or control of his
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federal employer; or
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c. Any person pursuing a course of study leading to a degree or
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certificate in software [engineering] designing at an accredited or
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approved educational program if the person is designated by a title
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which clearly indicates status as a student or trainee.
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11. (New section) To be eligible for a licensure as a software
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[engineer] designer an applicant shall submit to the board satisfactory
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evidence that he has:
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a. Graduated from a program in software [engineering] designing
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which has been approved for the education and training of software
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[engineers] designers' by an accrediting agency recognized by the
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Council on Post-Secondary Accreditation and the United States
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Department of Education; or
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Work experience in a current or previous position of employment
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utilizing the theory and procedures of software designing for a
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sufficient period of time as determined by the board; and
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b. Successfully completed a written examination administered by the
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board pursuant to section 14 of this act to determine his competence
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to practice software [engineering] designing.
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12. (New section) An applicant for licensure who is a graduate of a
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foreign school of software [engineering] designing shall furnish
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evidence satisfactory to the board that he has:
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a. Completed a course of study in software [engineering] designing
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which is substantially equivalent to that provided in an accredited
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program described in subsection a. of section 11 of this act; and
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b.Successfully completed a written examination administered by the
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board pursuant to section 14 of this act.
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13. (New section) A fee shall accompany each application for licensure.
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Licenses shall expire biennially on January 31 and may be renewed upon
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submission of a renewal application provided by the board and a payment
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of a fee. If the renewal fee is not paid by that date, the license
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shall automatically expire, but may be renewed within two years of its
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expiration date upon payment to the board of a sum determined by it for
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each year or part thereof during which the license was expired and an
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additional restoration fee. If a license has not been renewed within
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two years of expiration, the license shall only be renewed by complying
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with the provisions of section 16 of this act or successfully completing
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the examination administered pursuant to section 14 of this act.
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14. (New section) The written examination required in section 11, 12,
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or 13 of this act shall test the applicant's knowledge of software
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[engineering] designing theory and procedures and any other subjects the
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board may deem useful to test the applicant's fitness to practice
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software [engineering] designing. Examinations shall be held within the
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State at least once every six months at a time and place to be
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determined by the board. The board shall give adequate written notice
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of the examination to applicants for licensure and examination.
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If an applicant fails the examination twice, the applicant may take a
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third examination not less than one year nor more than three years from
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the date of the applicant's initial examination. Additional
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examinations shall be in accordance with standards set by the board.
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15. (New section) The board shall issue a license to each applicant for
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licensure as a software [engineer] designer who qualifies pursuant to
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the provisions of this act and any rules and regulations promulgated by
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the board.
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16. (New section) Upon payment to the board of a fee and the submission
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a written application on forms provided by it, the board shall issue
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without examination a license to a software [engineer] designer who
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holds a valid license issued by another state or possession of the
|
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United States or the District of Columbia which has standards for
|
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licensure substantially equivalent to those of this State.
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17. (New section) Upon payment to the board of a fee and the submission
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of a written application on forms provided by it, the board shall issue
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a temporary license to a person who has applied for licensure pursuant
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to this act who, in the judgment of the board, is eligible for
|
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examination. A temporary license shall be available to an applicant
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upon initial application for examination. A person holding a temporary
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license may practice software [engineering] designing only under the
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direct supervision of a licensed software [engineer] designer'. A
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temporary license shall expire automatically upon failure of the
|
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licensure examination but may be renewed for an additional six-month
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period, until the date of the next examination at which time it shall
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automatically expire and be surrendered to the board.
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Multiple Sclerosis Support Echo
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by Rick Korejwo 1:3603/110
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AREA: MS_SUPPORT
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"A new MS Support Echo has been established on 3603/110. The
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object is to provide a place where persons with multiple
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sclerosis can exchange information. Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
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is a disease of the central nervous system which affects
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over 200,000 Americans. The disease does not yet have a
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known cause but is suspected of being precipitated by a
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range of factors. The symptoms vary from the most mild and
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temporary neurological presentations to total and complete
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disability. It is widely held that patients with MS can
|
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often benefit from a dialog with other patients. This ECHO
|
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is established to facilitate such a dialog. The moderator
|
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is Rick Korejwo who can provide information about the
|
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disease and it's questionable prognosis. A number of files
|
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in the non-technical area are available as well as responses
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to some of the specific questions. Rick maintains an
|
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|
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extensive library of medical journal abstracts relating to
|
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MS and provides researched responses as time allows. The
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 8 5 Aug 1991
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object is to ensure that information about MS be exchanged
|
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freely among as many person with MS as the ECHO can reach
|
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|
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out to. Sysops are encouraged to make the information know
|
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|
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as widely as possible. The ECHO is open to anyone concerned
|
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|
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with MS as a patient or care giver. Professionals
|
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|
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interested in medical abstracts may wish to subscribe to
|
|||
|
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"MSonly" which provides a monthly compendium of abstracts
|
|||
|
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dealing with MS. They are also welcome at any time in the
|
|||
|
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MS_SUPPORT echo."
|
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|
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|
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Please consider carrying this echo and encourage your NEC to
|
|||
|
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request it be placed on the backbone.
|
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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Abstract: Electronic Frontier Foundation's EFFECTOR ONLINE
|
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Tom Jennings
|
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|
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|
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The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is a group dedicated to defending
|
|||
|
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and enhancing your basic American (sorry non-USers) communication rights
|
|||
|
|
and abilities in these trying times. They publish an electronic newsletter,
|
|||
|
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the EFFECTOR ONLINE, published fortnightly (how quaint).
|
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|
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|
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I do not know how you obtain the EFFECTOR from FidoNet. They have expressed
|
|||
|
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an interest in the FidoNet and it's members, but I think they people to
|
|||
|
|
help them get connected to non-unix systems. (hint hint)
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
In their own words (from EFFECTOR vol. 1 no. 1):
|
|||
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|
|||
|
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The EFF has been established to help civilize the electronic
|
|||
|
|
frontier; to make it truly useful and beneficial to everyone, not
|
|||
|
|
just an elite; and to do this in a way that is in keeping with
|
|||
|
|
our society's highest traditions of the free and open flow of
|
|||
|
|
information and communication.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
EFF News will present news, information, and discussion about
|
|||
|
|
the world of computer-based communications media that constitute
|
|||
|
|
the electronic frontier. It will cover issues such as freedom
|
|||
|
|
of speech in digital media, privacy rights, censorship, standards
|
|||
|
|
of responsibility for users and operators of computer systems,
|
|||
|
|
policy issues such as the development of national information
|
|||
|
|
infrastructure, and intellectual property.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Alas, nowhere in the current issue does it say how to obtain copies! They
|
|||
|
|
seem to have only INTERNET addresses (below), and no "official" FidoNet
|
|||
|
|
connection, though obviously I received copy somehow. You'll need request
|
|||
|
|
that they make it available in FidoNet, and maybe (oh no!) buy an IBM feces
|
|||
|
|
and put up Fido/FidoNet (blatant self-promotion) or really, and FidoNet-
|
|||
|
|
compatible program and talk to us thousands of supporters.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 9 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
EFF's internet address is 'eff.org'. If you have access, try sending to
|
|||
|
|
effector@eff.org, or one of these people: Gerard Van der Leun
|
|||
|
|
(van@eff.org), Mike Godwin (mnemonic@eff.org), Mitchell Kapor
|
|||
|
|
(mkapor@eff.org), Chris Davis (ckd@eff.org), Helen Rose (hrose@eff.org)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
EFF is now 501(c)3 -- ie. they can take your money as always, but now it's
|
|||
|
|
tax-deductible for you. This is a good thing, and you should send them your
|
|||
|
|
money. They are very directly defending YOUR rights to communicate, as well
|
|||
|
|
as setting important precedent for the future, and enlightening our so-
|
|||
|
|
called "representatives" as to what's what.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
They also run a newsgroup devoted to discussion of issues relating to their
|
|||
|
|
work, called comp.org.eff.talk. It's also gated to the FidoNet, where it's
|
|||
|
|
echo name is EFF_TALK. Right now, it only goes to a handful of FidoNet
|
|||
|
|
systems, but it should end up on the backbone shortly.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
EFF is actively seeking members. Not sure what you get (besides the
|
|||
|
|
pleasure of actively supporting them!), but I know they have a nicely
|
|||
|
|
printed large-format newsletter printed on astrobrite (that nice, permanent
|
|||
|
|
newsprint), maybe you get a year's sub to it. You'll have to ask 'em.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Membership fees are (annually) $20 for students and low-income, and $40 for
|
|||
|
|
regular members. You can send your membership fees and/or your additional
|
|||
|
|
donation to The Electronic Frontier Foundation, 155 Second Street,
|
|||
|
|
Cambridge, MA 02141. Please include your name, postal address, and
|
|||
|
|
electronic mail address.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
* * * * *
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
What follows here is a rather lengthy abstract of the EFF's EFFECTOR
|
|||
|
|
ONLINE, Volume I Number 6. In this issue:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
NetNews: The EFF Wants You!
|
|||
|
|
Computers and Academic Freedom
|
|||
|
|
I Really Need to Know I Learned from my Computer
|
|||
|
|
The Prodigy Saga Marches On...and On
|
|||
|
|
S.266: What You Can Do
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
THE EFF AND SENATE BILL 266
|
|||
|
|
At the EFF we continue to oppose the spirit and the letter of
|
|||
|
|
those provisions of Senate Bill 266 that would require mandatory
|
|||
|
|
cooperation of telecommunications providers with law enforcement.
|
|||
|
|
We believe that those individuals and organizations that support
|
|||
|
|
this initiative fail to understand the implications of compromising
|
|||
|
|
encryption methods in this time of emergent online technologies.
|
|||
|
|
In order to play an active role in shaping this legislation
|
|||
|
|
the EFF expects to meet with the bill's sponsors in Washington
|
|||
|
|
and express our fundamental opposition to any move on the part
|
|||
|
|
of the Federal government that would prohibit or have a chilling
|
|||
|
|
effect on the individual's right to use cryptography.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 10 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
THE CPSR ANNOUNCES A WASHINGTON WORKSHOP
|
|||
|
|
ON PRIVACY, ENCRYPTION, AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS POLICY
|
|||
|
|
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility, the
|
|||
|
|
Electronic Frontier Foundation, RSA are sponsoring a one-day
|
|||
|
|
workshop in Washington, D.C. on June 10.
|
|||
|
|
This workshop will bring together a broad coalition of
|
|||
|
|
professionals in the computer and telecommunications fields,
|
|||
|
|
as well as experts in cutting-edge cryptography, privacy
|
|||
|
|
advocates, and civil liberties protectors. It will feature
|
|||
|
|
a congressional briefing on current federal policy initiatives
|
|||
|
|
including S.266 and export restrictions.
|
|||
|
|
The workshop will be followed at 2:00 by a press conference
|
|||
|
|
and the National Press Club (14th & Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.). All
|
|||
|
|
interested parties are invited to attend the press conference.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
EFF DOCUMENT FILES NOW AVAILABLE
|
|||
|
|
THE DOCUMENT CASE -- a collection of briefs, judgments
|
|||
|
|
white papers, rulings, and references of moment to the issues
|
|||
|
|
of law and order on The Electronic Frontier--is now available via
|
|||
|
|
FTP at eff.org. This represents our current and expanding collection
|
|||
|
|
of legal papers of interest to attorneys and the net at large. It
|
|||
|
|
was created and maintained by Staff Counsel Mike Godwin
|
|||
|
|
(mnemonic@eff.org). For details on how to access this archive
|
|||
|
|
please contact ftphelp@eff.org.
|
|||
|
|
To add to the archive, send mail to Michael Godwin (mnemonic@eff.org).
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
COMPUTERS AND ACADEMIC FREEDOM GROUPS NOW AT EFF.ORG
|
|||
|
|
CAF discusses such questions as : How should general principles
|
|||
|
|
of academic freedom (such as freedom of expression, freedom to read,
|
|||
|
|
due process, and privacy) be applied to university computers and
|
|||
|
|
networks? How are these principles actually being applied? How can the
|
|||
|
|
principles of academic freedom as applied to computers and networks be
|
|||
|
|
defended?
|
|||
|
|
The EFF has given the discussion a home on the eff.org machine.
|
|||
|
|
As of April 23, less than two week after its creation, the list has
|
|||
|
|
230 members in four countries.
|
|||
|
|
There are three versions of the mailing list:
|
|||
|
|
comp-academic-freedom-talk
|
|||
|
|
- you'll received dozens of e-mail notes every day.
|
|||
|
|
comp-academic-freedom-batch
|
|||
|
|
- about once a day, you'll receive a compilation of the day's
|
|||
|
|
notes.
|
|||
|
|
comp-academic-freedom-news
|
|||
|
|
- about once a week you'll receive a compilation of the best
|
|||
|
|
notes of the week. (I play the editor for this one).
|
|||
|
|
To join a version of the list, send mail to listserv@eff.org.
|
|||
|
|
Include the line "add <name-of-version>". (Other commands are "delete
|
|||
|
|
<name-of-version>" and "help").
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 11 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In any case, after you join the list you can send e-mail to the
|
|||
|
|
LIST BY addressing it to caf-talk@eff.org.
|
|||
|
|
These mailing lists are also available as the USENET alt groups
|
|||
|
|
'alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk' and 'alt.comp.acad-freedom.news'.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
the sand remembers
|
|||
|
|
once there was beach and sunshine
|
|||
|
|
but chip is warm too
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The Need for a Discussion of Computers and Academic Freedom
|
|||
|
|
by Carl Kadie (kadie@eff.org)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
When my grandmother attended the University of Illinois fifty-five
|
|||
|
|
years ago, academic freedom meant the right to speak up in class, to
|
|||
|
|
created student organizations, to listen to controversial speakers, to
|
|||
|
|
read "dangerous" books in the library, and to be protected from random
|
|||
|
|
searches of your dorm room.
|
|||
|
|
Today these rights are guaranteed by most universities. These days,
|
|||
|
|
however, my academic life very different from my grandmother's. Her
|
|||
|
|
academic life was centered on the classroom and the student union.
|
|||
|
|
Mine centers on the computer and the computer network. In the new
|
|||
|
|
academia, my academic freedom is much less secure.
|
|||
|
|
The suppression of academic freedom on computers is common. At least
|
|||
|
|
once a month, someone posts on plea on Usenet for help. The most
|
|||
|
|
common complaint is that a newsgroup has been banned because of its
|
|||
|
|
content (usually alt.sex). In January, a sysadmin at the University of
|
|||
|
|
Wisconsin didn't ban any newsgroups directly. Instead, he reduced the
|
|||
|
|
newsgroup expiration time so that reading groups such as alt.sex is
|
|||
|
|
almost impossible. Last month, a sysadmin at Case Western killed
|
|||
|
|
a note that a student had posted to a local newsgroup. The sysadmin
|
|||
|
|
said the information in the note could be misused. In other cases,
|
|||
|
|
university employees may be reading e-mail or looking through user
|
|||
|
|
files. This may happen with or without some prior notice that e-mail
|
|||
|
|
and files are fair game.
|
|||
|
|
In many of these cases the legality of the suppression is unclear. It
|
|||
|
|
may depend on user expectation, prior announcements, and whether the
|
|||
|
|
university is public or private.
|
|||
|
|
The legality is, however, irrelevant. The duty of the University is
|
|||
|
|
not to suppress everything it legally can; rather it is to support the
|
|||
|
|
free and open investigation and expression of ideas. This is the ideal
|
|||
|
|
of academic freedom. In this role, the University acts a model of how
|
|||
|
|
the wider world should be. (In the world of computers, universities are
|
|||
|
|
perhaps the most important model of how things should be).
|
|||
|
|
If you are interested in discussing this issues, or if you have
|
|||
|
|
first-hand experience with academic suppression on computers or
|
|||
|
|
networks, please join the mailing list.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 12 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
one with nintendo
|
|||
|
|
halcyon symbiosis
|
|||
|
|
hand thinks for itself
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
All I Really Need to Know I Learned from My Computer
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
All I really need to know about how to live and what to do and how to be I
|
|||
|
|
learned right here in the CAEN labs. Illumination was not at the top of the
|
|||
|
|
graduate school mountain, but right there in front of the computer
|
|||
|
|
monitors. These are the things I learned. Everything you need to know is
|
|||
|
|
here somewhere:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
1. Share all your executables.
|
|||
|
|
2. Pay for your shareware.
|
|||
|
|
3. Don't hit the computer.
|
|||
|
|
4. Back up files after you have found them.
|
|||
|
|
5. Clean up your own messy desktop.
|
|||
|
|
6. Don't copy software that is not yours.
|
|||
|
|
7. Make a smiley when you send someone a nasty message.
|
|||
|
|
8. Wash your hands before you type.
|
|||
|
|
9. Flush your buffers.
|
|||
|
|
10. M&Ms and a cold can of Coke are good for you.
|
|||
|
|
11. Live a student's life--learn some and think some and
|
|||
|
|
MacDraw and IPaint and Readnews and play Tetris and hack
|
|||
|
|
every day some.
|
|||
|
|
12. Take a break every two hours from staring at the terminal.
|
|||
|
|
13. When you go out in the world, watch out for network traffic,
|
|||
|
|
hold connections and stick together.
|
|||
|
|
14. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little bytes in the chip:
|
|||
|
|
The code goes in and the graphics come out and nobody
|
|||
|
|
really knows how or why, but computers are all like that.
|
|||
|
|
15. Pets and Lisas and DN350s and even the little bytes in the
|
|||
|
|
chip all die. So do we.
|
|||
|
|
16. And then remember the Computer Reference Manuals and the
|
|||
|
|
first command you learned--the biggest command of all--Quit.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
by Ann Gordon (anng@caen.engin.umich.edu)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
samurai fighter
|
|||
|
|
keyboard and mouse are his sword
|
|||
|
|
digital battles
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
-==--==--==-<>-==--==--==-
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 13 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
THE PRODIGY SAGA CONTINUED....REDUX....ENCORE....
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
[Prodigy continued to be a main subject of conversation on the net over
|
|||
|
|
the past two weeks. Here is a selection of one exchange of views on
|
|||
|
|
comp.org.eff.talk.]
|
|||
|
|
--
|
|||
|
|
From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In article <14193.281F5781@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG>
|
|||
|
|
Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings) writes:
|
|||
|
|
>It's easy to support free-speech issues on "safe" subjects
|
|||
|
|
>-- the real test is when it is an unpopular one, or even one
|
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|
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>you don't agree with.
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I agree with this 100%. It's one of the strongest parts of my personal
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philosophy.
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But this is not a free-speech issue, so it is not relevant.
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People do not understand that freedom of the press (and Prodigy is press)
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has two very important components:
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a) Nobody can tell you what not to print (freedom from censorship)
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b) Nobody can tell you what *to* print. (editorial control)
|
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Both are important. To insist that Prodigy allow gay/lesbian discussion
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against their will is not much different from forbidding them from having
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gay/lesbian discussion if they want it.
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Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of the press. That's no
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law in *either* direction.
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--
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From: lee@wang.com (Lee Story)
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In-Reply-To: brad@looking.on.ca's message of 4 May 91
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Well sorry, Brad, but it's not clear to many of us that a service like
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Prodigy is self-evidently "press", as you seem to claim. In the part
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of the service which presents (publishes) advertisements (mostly!) and
|
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Prodigy-initiated or Prodigy-contracted informative articles (rarely),
|
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they would seem to deserve the same protections offered to the print
|
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and broadcast media.
|
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But in their provision of email service they would seem to be merely a
|
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by-subscription carrier, and their unpleasant lack of interfaces to
|
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|
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other carriers does not disguise that fact. I don't see why the same
|
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|
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protections offered to mail and telephone subscribers shouldn't apply.
|
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|
|
And I don't see why bulletin boards to which subscribers are welcome to
|
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|
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contribute shouldn't be considered either (1) simply useful extensions
|
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of email, or (2) publishing ventures, but ones in which the subscribers
|
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are the publishers and Prodigy remains the carrier.
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 14 5 Aug 1991
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|
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|
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Isn't some scheme like this simple and fair enough to be worth
|
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codifying as law, and the added marketability of email and bulletin
|
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boards sufficient to encourage commercial services to provide them
|
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even if they aren't allowed to control the contents?
|
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|
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(By the way, I think the trashy, ad-oriented nature of Prodigy has
|
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|
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encouraged many of us to criticize them for practices that would
|
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|
|
raise few complaints on GEnie, CIS, etc. They may be doing us a
|
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|
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real service.)
|
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|
|
--
|
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|
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From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton)
|
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|
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|
|
I have seen no proof of Prodigy doing anything but charge for their E-mail.
|
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|
|
They are not press, but an E-mail provider, when it comes to E-mail.
|
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|
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|
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|
|
But in all the public areas of the system, they are indeed press, and
|
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|
|
have explicitly said and acted in such a fashion at all times as far as I
|
|||
|
|
can tell. I am not sure how other people have gotten any other impression.
|
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|
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|
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|
|
Prodigy screens everything posted in the public areas. It's 100% edited.
|
|||
|
|
How can you consider them anything but press?
|
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|
|
--
|
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|
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[The discussion continues in comp.org.eff.talk.]
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|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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|
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|
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|
|
Fredric L. Rice
|
|||
|
|
1:102/901.0
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
APL anyone? I'm looking to find APL programmers who would like
|
|||
|
|
to consider the creation of an APL Echo Conference. Doubtless
|
|||
|
|
there will be few of us yet those APL programmers in the Fido
|
|||
|
|
Network may find solace in knowing that they are not the only
|
|||
|
|
APL programmer in the network.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
We'll exchange APL workspaces and generally discuss the
|
|||
|
|
language. I. P. Sharps APL for the PC will no doubt dominate
|
|||
|
|
the conference though all APL packages should be discussed and
|
|||
|
|
work spaces exchanged.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you're an APL programmer and might like to contribute to the
|
|||
|
|
conference, please let me know.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
If you are already running the I. P. Sharp APL package, you
|
|||
|
|
might be interested in the WSPRINT utilities which allow you to
|
|||
|
|
export your APL workspace to a DOS file for translation and
|
|||
|
|
eventual printing to either a LaserJet or to a C. Itoh printer.
|
|||
|
|
More printers will be added as I acquire time. If this utility
|
|||
|
|
package sounds interesting, it comes with the C source code
|
|||
|
|
(which is well documented) from my system as WSPRINT.LZH.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 15 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Quick run-down: You run 'wsprint' after copying it into your
|
|||
|
|
work space to print which creates a WSPRINT.OUT DOS file. The
|
|||
|
|
WSPRINT.EXE program converts it into a file you can view with
|
|||
|
|
a text editor. LASERAPL sends the output file APL.OUT to a
|
|||
|
|
LaserJet and APLOUT sends it to a C. Itoh.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The ShareWare version of the I. P. Sharp APL package can be
|
|||
|
|
downloaded from my system as SAPLPC-1.LZH and SAPLPC-2.LZH or
|
|||
|
|
from where I got them at 1:102/770 except, I believe, with the
|
|||
|
|
.ARJ extension. This package is perfect for the beginner and
|
|||
|
|
the novice yet it contains no documentation. I'll be creating
|
|||
|
|
a short document file, complete with keyboard lay-out, and
|
|||
|
|
will be making it available as soon as it's finished. This
|
|||
|
|
puppy even supports nested arrays!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The commercial version of the Sharp APL package has been
|
|||
|
|
ordered and as soon as I receive it and examine the
|
|||
|
|
documentation (which is over 800 pages of references and
|
|||
|
|
examples of APL programming) I'll make a review of the package.
|
|||
|
|
I will also make some mention of the helpfulness of the
|
|||
|
|
customer support people I've already talked with at the company
|
|||
|
|
which provides this package. Iverson Software in Canada was
|
|||
|
|
damn helpful.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As a side note, I should add that my intentions are to finish a
|
|||
|
|
full-screen editor for the I. P. Sharp APL package which will
|
|||
|
|
work with APLI-PC as well as APLI-386 (real-mode extended). It
|
|||
|
|
will allow the exporting of an APL workspace to DOS, the full-
|
|||
|
|
screen editing of same, and then the import of the edited work-
|
|||
|
|
space. That package will be called APL-EDIT.LZH when it is
|
|||
|
|
finished and the C source code will be included.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Fredric
|
|||
|
|
1:102/901.0
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
by Steve Hayes
|
|||
|
|
Sysop of 5:7101/20
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
About twenty five years ago Marshall McLuhan achieved notoriety
|
|||
|
|
with his observation that the medium of communication IS the mes-
|
|||
|
|
sage - that our lives are shaped more by the way in which we com-
|
|||
|
|
municate than by the content of what is communicated. You don't
|
|||
|
|
have to agree with everything McLuhan said to see that there is
|
|||
|
|
something in it.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Networks like Fidonet, Usenet and others allow people to hear the
|
|||
|
|
opinions of people they might never have met face to face. They
|
|||
|
|
also allow people to make contact with others who share a spe-
|
|||
|
|
cialized interest in a way not normally possible. So in Fidonet
|
|||
|
|
we can either broaden our horizons, or retreat into our special-
|
|||
|
|
izations, or do both.
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 16 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This leads to the problem of information overload. We can't all
|
|||
|
|
communicate on every subject with everyone. The result is that
|
|||
|
|
there are more and more specialized echoes, and complaints that
|
|||
|
|
the range of material published in Fidonews is too wide to be
|
|||
|
|
useful. In Fidonews 8-30 there was an appeal - relegated to the
|
|||
|
|
"Rants and flames" section - for Fidonews to be confined to the
|
|||
|
|
medium, rather than the message. I think it was a pity to put it
|
|||
|
|
in that section, as it is a matter that may need to be discussed.
|
|||
|
|
Publishing anything in Fidonews may have been OK when it was a
|
|||
|
|
small network, but some of the topics would interest only a small
|
|||
|
|
proportion of Fidonet users.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
On the other hand, when networking was new, there was more need
|
|||
|
|
to discuss the medium, and for those who maintain the network,
|
|||
|
|
there is still such a need. If we only used telephones to talk
|
|||
|
|
about the telephone system, there would be far fewer telephones
|
|||
|
|
in the world than there are now. So I can't make up my mind
|
|||
|
|
whether non-technical articles in Fidonews are a good idea.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As an Orthodox Christian, I find it interesting, though odd, to
|
|||
|
|
discuss Christianity and Satanism with people who profess to be
|
|||
|
|
Satanists. Where else does one get a chance to do something like
|
|||
|
|
that? But I recognize that people who are interested in cookery,
|
|||
|
|
dog-breeding, nuclear physics, or sending letters to troops in
|
|||
|
|
Saudi-Arabia might find such discussions incredibly boring and
|
|||
|
|
out of place in Fidonews.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I could, of course, maintain that all those other things, while
|
|||
|
|
interesting to those who find them interesting, are not really of
|
|||
|
|
vital importance. The Orthodox Christian faith (I can't speak for
|
|||
|
|
Satanists at this point) is concerned with the whole meaning and
|
|||
|
|
purpose of life, and I believe that. I'm not, however, going to
|
|||
|
|
get other people to see that by ranting and flaming, or by trying
|
|||
|
|
to force the Word on the world by hook or by crook.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Is there an echo for Christians and Satanists to debate? Should
|
|||
|
|
there be? Or should they debate in Fidonews, for lack of any
|
|||
|
|
other suitable forum? I'm not trying to push one course of action
|
|||
|
|
or the other, I'm just trying to clarify the issues.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
But I do have a couple of questions and requests. I would like to
|
|||
|
|
know if there are any international Christian echoes on Fidonet
|
|||
|
|
that can be used to discuss anything at all related to the Chris-
|
|||
|
|
tian faith, without insisting on any one doctrinal line. And then
|
|||
|
|
I would also like to know if there are any BBSs run by Orthodox
|
|||
|
|
Christians connected to Fidonet. If there are, I would like to
|
|||
|
|
hear from the Sysops about the possibility of starting an
|
|||
|
|
Orthodox Christian echo. Please netmail me at one of the follow-
|
|||
|
|
ing addresses:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Steve Hayes of 5:7101/20
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 17 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
or 5:7101/22.5
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Internet: Steve.Hayes@f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
|
|||
|
|
Steve.Hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
|
|||
|
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
IS THE NODELIST TOO LONG?
|
|||
|
|
by Richard Bash - 161/357; Castro Valley, California
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In FIDO829.NWS (07/22/91) I wrote an article entitled "Nodelist
|
|||
|
|
Problems and Suggestions." The basic theme was that, in my view, the
|
|||
|
|
Fido Nodelist had grown far too large (NODELIST.207 = 996065 bytes). I
|
|||
|
|
pointed out that about half of the nodelist was taken up by United
|
|||
|
|
States listings. I suggested that one rather handy solution for this
|
|||
|
|
problem was to create two nodelists: put the United States in one and
|
|||
|
|
the rest of the world in the other. I also added that the number of
|
|||
|
|
Canadian nodes had grown to a sufficient number to justify their own
|
|||
|
|
zone number. At that point the netmail started coming in replying to
|
|||
|
|
that article. This article shares with you the gist of those replies.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
To start with, the first reply came from a SysOp in North Carolina who
|
|||
|
|
expressed displeasure with the article:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
One _BASIC_ problem with your idea - sometmes a
|
|||
|
|
SysOp may wish to send DIRECT inter-zone mail
|
|||
|
|
without routing through zonegates. Another SysOp on
|
|||
|
|
the potential receiving end sets his/her mailer in
|
|||
|
|
`CurMudgeon' mode.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Now I expected weird replies but this was a bit confusing. The author
|
|||
|
|
(out of respect for the various authors of replies, I am keeping them
|
|||
|
|
anonymous since they sent me netmail; their replies ARE on file and
|
|||
|
|
will remain so for awhile) seems to be trying to tell me that if he
|
|||
|
|
wants to send a message direct to a SysOp outside the United States
|
|||
|
|
that my plan would not allow him to do so and would force him to use
|
|||
|
|
zone gates. That is not correct at all.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As I stated in my original letter in FidoNews, the vast majority of the
|
|||
|
|
SysOps in the United States have no need for a listing of nodes outside
|
|||
|
|
the United States. Additionally, very few non-U.S. nodes have need for
|
|||
|
|
a listing of U.S. nodes. However, if my plan were adopted and two
|
|||
|
|
separate nodelists created, there would be nothing to prevent the
|
|||
|
|
author of the reply from using both of the nodelists. Meanwhile the
|
|||
|
|
rest of the vast majority of nodes (throughout the world) would not
|
|||
|
|
need to take up valuable disk space with this mammoth nodelist.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
A reply came in from Sweden that was reasonably well thought out. That
|
|||
|
|
gentleman stated:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 18 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Therefore, to obtain utilities such as off-line
|
|||
|
|
messager readers, on- line games, et cetera et
|
|||
|
|
cetera, Swedish people DO need the nodes of Zone 1,
|
|||
|
|
or if you prefer, the US. I can speak only for
|
|||
|
|
myself, but I imagine this goes for lots of other
|
|||
|
|
Europeans, too.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
On the other hand, I can understand perfectly well
|
|||
|
|
why US sysops have no use whatsoever for Swedish
|
|||
|
|
node numbers :-)
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Again, I submit that this author is also not understanding that he CAN
|
|||
|
|
have a worldwide nodelist; it'll just be in two parts and he can merge
|
|||
|
|
them into the old, familiar one.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This was followed by a reply from an unlisted point in Canada. I did
|
|||
|
|
not expect ANY Canadian node to agree with me, since I am in favor of
|
|||
|
|
putting all Canadian nodes in a non-U.S. listing. However, of all the
|
|||
|
|
replies I received from canada, this chap made sense:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I think you underestimate the amount of
|
|||
|
|
cross-border traffic. Probably most Canadian nodes
|
|||
|
|
sometimes call U.S. nodes; a lot of U.S. nodes like
|
|||
|
|
the flexibility of being able to call outside the
|
|||
|
|
country, and quite a few people from other zones
|
|||
|
|
frequently call the U.S. With a split nodelist,
|
|||
|
|
this would mean that all of these people would be
|
|||
|
|
forced to get both halves, and they wouldn't be any
|
|||
|
|
better off at all.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
My suggestion for an improvement? Decentralize the
|
|||
|
|
nodelist. Right now, I can send netmail anywhere in
|
|||
|
|
Fidonet by sending it to a net host (that's how
|
|||
|
|
this message is getting to you, if it gets there).
|
|||
|
|
I have no need for any local nodes in any but two
|
|||
|
|
or three nets, and in fact I prune most of them out
|
|||
|
|
of my copy of the nodelist. I'd be happy if the
|
|||
|
|
pruning took place upstream: let the main nodelist
|
|||
|
|
contain *only* hosts, independents, and gateways.
|
|||
|
|
This would immediately shrink it under 50K, even
|
|||
|
|
less ZIP'd.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
To begin with, the amount of the traffic involved is inconsequential to
|
|||
|
|
the argument I put forth. The comment "that all of these people would
|
|||
|
|
be forced to get both halves, and they wouldn't be any better off at
|
|||
|
|
all" overlooks the fact that while those relatively few nodes would be
|
|||
|
|
no better off, the vast majority of both U.S. and non-U.S. nodes would
|
|||
|
|
be. I regret that I do not understand the "decentralizing" argument.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Yet another Canadian node sent me a reply but one that brought out some
|
|||
|
|
other points worth sharing:
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 19 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I just wanted to let you know that I totally
|
|||
|
|
disagree with your article in Fidonews, especially
|
|||
|
|
the part about splitting off the Canadian nodes
|
|||
|
|
from the U.S. nodes. We have the same telephone
|
|||
|
|
dialing plan, at least one Fidonet region
|
|||
|
|
encompasses nodes in both countries, and if you
|
|||
|
|
have seen the political situation in Canada, it's
|
|||
|
|
not too farfetched to postulate that musch of what
|
|||
|
|
is now Canada (definitely EXCLUDING Quebec) may be
|
|||
|
|
part of the U.S. someday. Then there's also the
|
|||
|
|
little matter of Alaska, which effectively places
|
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|
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Canada between parts of the United States. Of all
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the proposals for reducing the size of the
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nodelist, this is the one I disagree with the most.
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You are just another one of those trying to find a
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political soultion to a technical problem. I do not
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believe the soultion is to split up or reduce the
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size of the nodelist, but rather to find a way to
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transmit this same information in a more compact
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form. By the way, what difference does it make
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whether a nodelist fits on a 360K diskette? Most
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people have larger floppies and for those who
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don't, it would be very easy to split and
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reconstruct the nodelist files using existing
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utilities... this assumes that someone even has a
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need to put a nodelist on a 360K floppy, and I
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don't know of anyone who has that need!
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Well, I cannot comment on the likelihood or plausibility of Canada
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being annexed by the U.S. (wasn't that what the War of 1812 was about?
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The U.S. lost if annexation was their goal) but the location of Alaska
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(and Hawaii) do not rebut my argument. His next paragraph about trying
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to find a "political solution" is off the mark as well, unless
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"political" also means "practical." As to his comments about not
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knowing anyone who has 360K floppies, I submit that I do as does the
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following author from California:
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By the way, I do not have high density drives on my
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BBS computer and it is indeed annoying that the
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zipped nodelist will no longer fit on a floppy. I
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believe that if the nodelist is divided and
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trimmed, each zone (not just zone 1) should have a
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separate list that can be comfortably appended to
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other zone lists. The principle drawback to this
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system is the additional housekeeping hassle for
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the *Cs. As an NC for a small net here in
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California, I would have to customize my nodelist
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distribution for sysops with a variety of
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communication needs. I believe that many other
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larger nets would have a much more complex pattern
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 20 5 Aug 1991
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of "zone lists" required by various sysops. Anyway,
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thanks for expressing your thoughts.
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The above gentleman also does point out that easily appending the
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nodelists will be necessary and I am convinced that in this vast
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audience we call FidoNet there lives and breathes some programmer who
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can do that quite handily.
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Finally we hear from a SysOp in Texas, who seems to like what I
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proposed:
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I would just like to say BRAVO!!! I read your piece
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in the FidoNews Letter about FidoNet needing a U.S.
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Nodelist. I totally agree with your statements. I
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hope that someone with authority within the FidoNet
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organization read that and will take steps to
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implement it.
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Something else worth considering is eliminating the entries marked
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"Down." If you're down, you're out! When you get back up, your NC will
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gladly reinstate you in the nodelist. The reason for this argument is
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that many of the nodes marked "Down" stayed marked that way for lengthy
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periods. So, simply dropping them out of the nodelist until they are
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ready to resume normal operation would remove 175 entries from
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NODELIST.207.
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Another point to consider is the removal from the nodelist of those
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nodes designated "Pvt." There are 475 of them in NODELIST.207. I ask
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that you consider this: if a SysOp wishes to be a participant in
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FidoNet that he/she be a full participant. That would require a phone
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listing, etc. One can always use an alias if one's paranoia is higher
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than mine (not likely).
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In conclusion, I again state that the vast majority of nodes throughout
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the world (including the U.S.) would benefit from two nodelists: one
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for the U.S. and one for the rest of the world. Furthermore, merging
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these two lists is a minor programming effort that, once some
|
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programmer writes the routine, would occur automatically through the
|
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|
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use of a batch file. Removal of "Down" and "Pvt" listing would reduce
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the nodelist by another 2% and every little bit helps. Canada needs a
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separate Zone number. The number of Canadian nodes has grown to the
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point where it is justified. This latter point in no way diminishes the
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great respect I have for America's Canadian neighbors; they are good
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and loyal friends (which has nothing to doing with the argument, so let
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us set emotion aside).
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There are relatively few nodes throughout the world and the United
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States who benefit from having a nodelist in its present form. Those
|
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|
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who do will lose no benefit if the nodelist were split; they would
|
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|
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simply recombine it. Let the effort for recombining the nodelist fall
|
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|
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on the shoulders of those who need that facility. The vast majority of
|
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|
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Fido nodes do not need a combined nodelist with every node from
|
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|
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Australia to Zimbabwe listed in it.
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 21 5 Aug 1991
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I again urge the authorities within the FidoNet power structure to
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|
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seriously consider this proposal and to move forthrightly and split the
|
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|
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nodelist. Thank you for your attention. Your constructive ideas are
|
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|
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welcome via netmail, letter or as follow-up articles in FidoNews. I
|
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|
|
would urge those who would reply to please use a spelling checker. It
|
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|
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would raise my opinion of the author of such replies and is a matter of
|
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|
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courtesy.
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Respectfully submitted,
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|
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Richard Bash - 1:161/357
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Combat Arms BBS SysOp
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|
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2869 Grove Way
|
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|
|
Castro Valley, CA 94546
|
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|
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Voice: (415) 538-6544
|
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|
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BBS: (415) 537-1777
|
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|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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Conforming to the Lowest Common Denominator
|
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|
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|
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|
|
Jeff Wormsley
|
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|
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FidonNet 1:362/127
|
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|
|
US MAIL : 320 Jackson Rd, Hixson, TN 37343
|
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|
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|
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|
|
It has been the policy of FidoNet from the start for all systems
|
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|
|
to conform to the lowest common denominator, namely all software
|
|||
|
|
must be able to perform the functions of the most primitive
|
|||
|
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versions, regardless of how antiquated they are. In many instances,
|
|||
|
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this is indeed the best way to go. However, in this sysop's opinion,
|
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|
|
there is at least one area where this is not the best possible
|
|||
|
|
solution. That area is the exclusion of high order ASCII in
|
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|
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messages, namely the IBM graphics character set and ANSI screen
|
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|
|
codes.
|
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|
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|
|
At present, there seems to be no problems with any system actually
|
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|
|
recieving these codes. The problem lies in their not being able to
|
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|
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view/interpret them properly. For instance, the Mac, Amiga, ect have
|
|||
|
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entirely different sets of characters for the >127 ASCII values.
|
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|
|
But, these systems are in the vast minority. Why should the rest of
|
|||
|
|
us be forced to use ASCII only, just because these systems can't
|
|||
|
|
handle the ANSI/IBM extended character set? It would seem to be
|
|||
|
|
better to place the burden of filtering/converting these codes on
|
|||
|
|
the minority who cannot support them, rather than tie down the
|
|||
|
|
majority. Or at least allow echoes to use these codes, and have them
|
|||
|
|
marked as such in the echo list, so that systems which cannot
|
|||
|
|
support them will know either not to carry them, or to be sure to
|
|||
|
|
filter those codes out before importing those messages into their
|
|||
|
|
message bases.
|
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|
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|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 22 5 Aug 1991
|
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Other mail network systems such as Spitfire and WWIV have the
|
|||
|
|
capabilities of sending graphics and color, why should FidoNet cling
|
|||
|
|
to the outdated ASCII codes? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing
|
|||
|
|
against other systems, as a matter of fact I helped get an ATARI ST
|
|||
|
|
system into the net. However, it seems that with the technology
|
|||
|
|
available, conferences with this ability should exist as a part of
|
|||
|
|
FidoNet. I for one would enjoy seeing conferences such as ANSI-ART,
|
|||
|
|
ATARI-VT52, C=COLOR, and AMIGA-GRAFIX available. If I can't display
|
|||
|
|
the information in one of these echoes, then I would hope to have
|
|||
|
|
sense enough not to request it. For general echoes, it should not be
|
|||
|
|
hard to write filter/conversion routines to remove/reformat these
|
|||
|
|
messages into a readable format on machines incapable of handling
|
|||
|
|
these codes. Lets place the burden on those systems that can't,
|
|||
|
|
rather than on those that can.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Conforming to the lowest common denominator has its places, but by
|
|||
|
|
extending the concept too far, it is my opinion we are stifling the
|
|||
|
|
state of the art.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 23 5 Aug 1991
|
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|
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|
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|
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======================================================================
|
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|
|
RANTS AND FLAMES
|
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======================================================================
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|
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|
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_(*#$_(*@#(* (*^$+)#(%&+| #$)%(&*#_$ @_#( @$
|
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|
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^@#+)(#&%$*+)$%&*+$*%&#@(@#_|)*%|)#%&)#*%&+(@#&*_+(@#*^&@###
|
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|
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*&#_($*&#$_(*#&$_(#*$&$ _(#$*#$+)#($&*+#)$ &#+$*&#
|
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|
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()*&#$_(&^#$_(#*$_#($^&#_$(^&#_$(&^#$_(&#^ damn right _(#^&$_(#^&
|
|||
|
|
$*&#$_+(* #)$&(%($%+)($%*+$)%($* it's ugly _#&%^# &
|
|||
|
|
#($_*#$_ FidoNet (*$&%_@#_(*&@#_(@*#&_ @#_(*&@#_(*
|
|||
|
|
)*&#$ Flames *^$+)#(% (not for the timid) @_#(
|
|||
|
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(*#$_(*^@#+) and #_|)*% &+(@#&*_+(@#*^&@###
|
|||
|
|
(#$*&#_($*&#$_(*#&$_(#* Rants *&+#$*&#+$*&#
|
|||
|
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)*&#$_(a regular feature)^&#_$(&^#$_ $^&#$_(#^
|
|||
|
|
(*^#$_*#^&$)*#&$^%)#*$&^_#($*^&#_($ Section #&%^_
|
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|
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_(*#&$_(#* #($*& #$* _(*&@#_(@*# *&@#_(*&
|
|||
|
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)&*+_)*&+)*&+))&*(*&
|
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|
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(*&_(*&_(*&
|
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|
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
IT IS TIME FOR CONGRESS TO ACT
|
|||
|
|
by John & Gail Feilke, sysops, JACURUTU
|
|||
|
|
706 Bonview Avenue
|
|||
|
|
Lincolnton, North Carolina 28092-2008
|
|||
|
|
Fido # 1:379/103
|
|||
|
|
JACURUTU # (704)732-1852
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Our fellow sysops, the week of August 10-18, 1991 is
|
|||
|
|
scheduled to be The Seventh National UFO Information Week. It
|
|||
|
|
is during this time that we here at JACURUTU will be sending
|
|||
|
|
out an informational file packet named, OPGOVUFO.ZIP to many
|
|||
|
|
BBSs in the U.S. As well as the ten top newspapers in the U.S.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In this file packet will be 10 of the best un-explained UFO
|
|||
|
|
cases in UFOlogy, the letter being sent to the editors of the
|
|||
|
|
newspapers, and the most important facet of this operation: a
|
|||
|
|
form letter to be sent to the Congressmen/women & Senators in
|
|||
|
|
Washington, D.C. calling for a Congressional Investigation
|
|||
|
|
into the UFO Enigma in general and the Roswell crash case in
|
|||
|
|
particular.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
UFOlogists in general believe that the time has come for such
|
|||
|
|
investigations, as new information comes to light on the
|
|||
|
|
Roswell crash in 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico. Roswell as you
|
|||
|
|
may or may not know is where the remains of two craft of
|
|||
|
|
unknown (alien) origin were found, as well as the remains of
|
|||
|
|
the crew (alien bodies) this was reported as a Flying Saucer
|
|||
|
|
on the world news tickers and then hushed up as a weather
|
|||
|
|
balloon. Enough witnesses have surfaced in this event to
|
|||
|
|
state the culpability of the U.S. Government in the cover-up.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 24 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
This is our "smoking-gun!"
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
With all the recent reports of "triangular-shaped" aircraft
|
|||
|
|
being sighted, not only here in the U.S. but world-wide, the
|
|||
|
|
best case of this was reported over the skies of Belgium, by
|
|||
|
|
the Belgium government, and was tracked by F-16 fighters (this
|
|||
|
|
being reported on NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries") who engaged and
|
|||
|
|
got radar-lock, only to have ground based radar watch the
|
|||
|
|
objects leave the area at over 7,000 mph, pulling an estimated
|
|||
|
|
60 g's! Russia has reported the same objects, as well as
|
|||
|
|
Portugal, England, Sweden, Australia, and many, many more
|
|||
|
|
countries.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
With the continuing cycle of "crop-circles" worldwide as well,
|
|||
|
|
people coming forth with "abduction" cases. We all believe it
|
|||
|
|
is past time for "serious" investigations to start in this
|
|||
|
|
country. Other countries are way ahead of us in "public"
|
|||
|
|
government investigations. France, Canada, and Japan come to
|
|||
|
|
the forefront. Belgium has professional UFO Investigators on
|
|||
|
|
the payroll, paid for by the taxes of their citizens. Are we
|
|||
|
|
any less than they are, or does the U.S. government have
|
|||
|
|
something to hide???
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
In closing, all we are asking you, the sysops of FIDONET in
|
|||
|
|
the U.S. to do, is make this file available to your users. The
|
|||
|
|
only way we can get the Congress to act is with the "PEOPLE"
|
|||
|
|
sending them this form letter. With enough people asking their
|
|||
|
|
representatives to act on this, we can finally get to the
|
|||
|
|
bottom of " The UFO Enigma"!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
I would now like to thank you all for reading this and
|
|||
|
|
hopefully acting on it. The file OPGOVUFO.ZIP is available
|
|||
|
|
for FREQing from 1:379/103. Gail and myself would also like
|
|||
|
|
to thank the folks at FIDONET for letting us put this up.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Many, many thanks to you all!!!
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
John & Gail Feilke - JACURUTU
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Glenn Caleval
|
|||
|
|
FidoNet 1:140/72
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Cens-or Nonsense
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The International Journal of Art History recently has been
|
|||
|
|
accused of engaging in censorship and denying free speech. It
|
|||
|
|
turns out that the Journal wants to publish only articles
|
|||
|
|
directly related to Art History. Some under-represented citizen
|
|||
|
|
named Art sent in a manuscript detailing his personal history
|
|||
|
|
and the Journal outright refused to publish it.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 25 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Amazing how people publishing a communications vehicle for a
|
|||
|
|
particular interest have the audacity to think they can only
|
|||
|
|
publish material relevant to that interest. Obviously the
|
|||
|
|
argument that the majority who pay the bill should have the
|
|||
|
|
primary voice over the content of what they pay for is
|
|||
|
|
capitalist tripe designed to oppress the weak, the poor, the
|
|||
|
|
devout, the good/satanic folk who have no means to get their
|
|||
|
|
message out except by using special interest media such as the
|
|||
|
|
Journal.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
As it is, Art is safe because he can send his 600 page
|
|||
|
|
manuscript to FidoNews and be assured of his rights to free
|
|||
|
|
speech at others' expense.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Go figure.
|
|||
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|
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|
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 26 5 Aug 1991
|
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|
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CLASSIFIEDS
|
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ADVERTISEMENT POLICY: Submissions must be 20 lines or less each,
|
|||
|
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maximum two ads per advertiser, 70 characters per line maximum. No
|
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|
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control codes except CR and LF. (Refer to contact info at the end of
|
|||
|
|
this newsletter for details.)
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Please notify us if you have any trouble with an advertiser. FidoNews
|
|||
|
|
does not endorse any products or services advertised here.
|
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 27 5 Aug 1991
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Christopher Baker
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Rights On! 1:374/14
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A_THEIST Echo Available
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A_theism means free of religion in the way a_political means
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free of politics or a_sexual means free of sex
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characteristics or drives.
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With that in mind and ever cognizant of the continued
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pressure of religion to intrude itself into our government
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and its operations, the A_THEIST Echo is provided to inform
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and alarm and hopefully wake up the sleeping and too long
|
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silent majority to the peril on our doorstep.
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It is now a Zone 1 Backbone Echo Hosted and Moderated
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by Rights On! [1:374/14] and Christopher Baker [card
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carrying member of American Atheists, Inc.]. Initial links
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will be provided from this system to any and all who request
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same. Links are now available from: 1:109/120; 1:114/15;
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1:152/20; 1:151/606; 1:112/2020; and via PODS. More links
|
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are noted in the current ELIST. Direct links may be broken
|
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as soon as the Backbone distribution is fully realized.
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The Echo is open to anyone who can discuss, without
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proselytizing, the extreme desirability of maintaining the
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absolute separation of State and church in this country as
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provided for in our Constitution.
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A sample of the first few messages and the statement of
|
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purpose of the Echo is available as A_THEIST.ZIP from this
|
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system anytime except 0100-0130 and 0500-0800 ET [USR HST
|
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ds online] if you wish to get an idea of whether to commit
|
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disk space to the Echo. An archive of the past traffic from
|
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the Echo is also available as A_ECHO1.ZIP.
|
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Backbone status has been approved. Ask your Backbone
|
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connection to get it for you!
|
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I hope you will join us or ask your Sysop to request a link
|
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via Netmail to 1:374/14.
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TTFN.
|
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Chris
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 28 5 Aug 1991
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The Interrupt Stack
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15 Aug 1991
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8 Sep 1991
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7 Oct 1991
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Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties will begin
|
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using area code 510. This includes Oakland, Concord, Berkeley and
|
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Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo, Marin, parts of Santa Clara County,
|
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and the San Francisco Bay Islands will retain area code 415.
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1 Nov 1991
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Area code 301 will split. Area code 410 will consist of the
|
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northeastern part of Maryland, as well as the eastern shore. This will
|
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include Baltimore and the surrounding area. Area 301 will include
|
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|
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southern and western parts of the state, including the areas around
|
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Washington DC. Area 410 phones will answer to calls to area 301 until
|
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November, 1992.
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1 Feb 1992
|
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Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and eastern
|
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|
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portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area code 310. This
|
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|
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includes Los Angeles International Airport, West Los Angeles, San
|
|||
|
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Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los Angeles and surrounding communities
|
|||
|
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(such as Hollywood and Montebello) will retain area code 213.
|
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|
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|
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1 Dec 1993
|
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|
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Tenth anniversary of Fido Version 1 release.
|
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5 Jun 1997
|
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|
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David Dodell's 40th Birthday
|
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|
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|
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If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar,
|
|||
|
|
please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
|
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|
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|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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|
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|
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|
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New Echo Conference: POWER
|
|||
|
|
by Tom Rieger
|
|||
|
|
1:260/242
|
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|
|||
|
|
Announcing the formation of the POWER conference. POWER is a FidoNet
|
|||
|
|
echo for the operators/maintainers of power, steam and refrigeration
|
|||
|
|
plants.
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
Moderator: Tom Rieger - a stationary engineer with 12 years working
|
|||
|
|
experience on nuclear and conventional marine propulsion plants,
|
|||
|
|
oil/gas and solid fuel steam generating plants and ammonia
|
|||
|
|
refrigeration systems.
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 29 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
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|
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Topics to include plant operations, plant maintenance, plant safety,
|
|||
|
|
solid fuel firing, co-generation, water treatment, ash handling,
|
|||
|
|
emissions reduction, innovations, problem solving... Anything related
|
|||
|
|
to the power/refrigeration industry.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Private distribution until the conference can be taken to regional
|
|||
|
|
and eventually backbone status. Contact the moderator for link-up
|
|||
|
|
info via the following: FidoNet NetMail to 1:260/242 or Internet mail
|
|||
|
|
to tom_rieger@rochgte.fidonet.org.
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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|
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|
|||
|
|
Solidarity Day '91 in Washington, D.C.
|
|||
|
|
by Tom Rieger
|
|||
|
|
1:260/242 - tom_rieger@rochgte.fidonet.org
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
An estimated tens of thousands of trade unionists will join in a
|
|||
|
|
mass demonstration on The Mall in Washington D.C. on August 31, 1991
|
|||
|
|
to give voice to organized labor's concerns on issues affecting
|
|||
|
|
working Americans and workers everywhere.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Solidarity Day '91 will focus on bringing attention to three major
|
|||
|
|
goals of the trade union movement: Health care reform, a ban on the
|
|||
|
|
"permanent replacement" of strikers and freedom of association at
|
|||
|
|
home and abroad.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Workers and their families will be arriving in Washington by car,
|
|||
|
|
plane, train and bus to take part in the demonstration, which will
|
|||
|
|
feature numerous guest speakers and a rally on The Mall.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
The day-long event comes nearly 10 years since labor staged
|
|||
|
|
Solidarity Day I in the nation's capitol in 1981 and hundreds of
|
|||
|
|
thousands of trade unionists, their families and friends rallied to
|
|||
|
|
let their feelings be known.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
For further information on the event, union members and locals should
|
|||
|
|
contact their National/International headquarters.
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 30 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
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======================================================================
|
|||
|
|
LATEST VERSIONS
|
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|
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======================================================================
|
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|
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|
|
Latest Greatest Software Versions
|
|||
|
|
08/01/91
|
|||
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|
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|
|
MS-DOS Systems
|
|||
|
|
--------------
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
|||
|
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
|||
|
|
DMG 2.93 BinkleyTerm 2.40 ARCAsim 2.30
|
|||
|
|
Fido/FidoNet 12.21+ D'Bridge 1.30 ARCmail 2.07
|
|||
|
|
Genesis Deluxe 3.1* Dutchie 2.90c ConfMail 4.00
|
|||
|
|
GSBBS 3.02 FrontDoor 2.00 Crossnet 1.5
|
|||
|
|
Kitten 2.16 InterMail 2.01* DOMAIN 1.42
|
|||
|
|
Lynx 1.30 PRENM 1.47 EEngine 0.30*
|
|||
|
|
Maximus 1.02 SEAdog 4.60* EMM 2.02
|
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|
|
Opus 1.70+* TIMS 1.0(Mod8) 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18
|
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|
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PCBoard 14.5a FNPGate 2.70
|
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|
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Phoenix 1.3 Gmail 2.05
|
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|
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QuickBBS 2.66 GROUP 2.16
|
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RBBS 17.3b NodeList Utilities GUS 1.30
|
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|
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RBBSmail 17.3b Name Version HeadEdit 1.18
|
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|
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RemoteAccess 1.01 -------------------- IMAIL 1.10
|
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|
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SLBBS 2.15b* EditNL 4.00 InterPCB 1.31
|
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|
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Socrates 1.10 MakeNL 2.31 MSG 4.1
|
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|
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SuperBBS 1.10 Parselst 1.30 MSGED 2.06
|
|||
|
|
TAG 2.5g Prune 1.40 MsgMstr 1.21*
|
|||
|
|
TBBS 2.1 SysNL 3.14 MSGTOSS 1.3
|
|||
|
|
TComm/TCommNet 3.4 XlatList 2.90 Oliver 1.0a
|
|||
|
|
Telegard 2.5 XlaxDiff 2.51* PolyXarc 2.1a*
|
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|
|
TPBoard 6.1 XlaxNode 2.51* QM 1.0
|
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|
|
Wildcat! 2.55 QSort 4.04
|
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|
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WWIV 4.12 ScanToss 1.28
|
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|
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XBBS 1.17 Sirius 1.0x
|
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|
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SLMAIL 1.36
|
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StarLink 1.01
|
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|
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Compression TagMail 2.41
|
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|
|
Utilities TCOMMail 2.2
|
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|
|
Name Version Telemail 1.27
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- TMail 1.21
|
|||
|
|
ARC 7.00 TPBNetEd 3.2
|
|||
|
|
ARJ 2.10 Tosscan 1.00
|
|||
|
|
HYPER 2.50 UFGATE 1.03
|
|||
|
|
LHA 2.12 XRS 4.50*
|
|||
|
|
LHARC 1.13c XST 2.3e
|
|||
|
|
PAK 2.51 ZmailH 1.16a*
|
|||
|
|
PKPak 3.61
|
|||
|
|
PKZip 1.10
|
|||
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|
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|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 31 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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OS/2 Systems
|
|||
|
|
------------
|
|||
|
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|
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|
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BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
|||
|
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
|||
|
|
Maximus-CBCS 1.02 BinkleyTerm 2.40 ARC2 6.00
|
|||
|
|
ConfMail 4.00
|
|||
|
|
EchoStat 6.0
|
|||
|
|
LH2 0.50
|
|||
|
|
MsgEd 2.06
|
|||
|
|
MsgLink 1.0c
|
|||
|
|
MsgNum 4.14
|
|||
|
|
oMMM 1.52
|
|||
|
|
Omail 3.1
|
|||
|
|
Parselst 1.32
|
|||
|
|
PKZip 1.02
|
|||
|
|
PolyXarc 2.1a*
|
|||
|
|
QSort 2.1
|
|||
|
|
Raid 1.0
|
|||
|
|
Remapper 1.2
|
|||
|
|
Tick 2.0
|
|||
|
|
VPurge 2.07
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
Xenix/Unix 386
|
|||
|
|
--------------
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
|
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
|||
|
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
|||
|
|
BinkleyTerm 2.32b ARC 5.21
|
|||
|
|
C-LHARC 1.00
|
|||
|
|
MsgEd 2.06
|
|||
|
|
|Contact: Jon Hogan-Duran 3:711/909,| MSGLNK 1.01
|
|||
|
|
|Willy Paine 1:343/12 or Eddy van Loo| oMMM 1.42
|
|||
|
|
|2:285/406 | Omail 1.00
|
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|
|
Parselst 1.32
|
|||
|
|
Unzip 3.10
|
|||
|
|
Vpurge 4.08
|
|||
|
|
Zoo 2.01
|
|||
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|
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|
|||
|
|
Apple II
|
|||
|
|
--------
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
|||
|
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
|||
|
|
DDBBS + 7.4* Fruity Dog 2.0* deARC2e 2.1
|
|||
|
|
GBBS Pro 2.1 ProSel 8.69*
|
|||
|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 32 5 Aug 1991
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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ShrinkIt 3.23
|
|||
|
|
ShrinkIt GS 1.04
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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|
|
Apple CP/M
|
|||
|
|
----------
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
|||
|
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
|||
|
|
Daisy 2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Filer 2-D
|
|||
|
|
MsgUtil 2.5
|
|||
|
|
Nodecomp 0.37
|
|||
|
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PackUser 4
|
|||
|
|
UNARC.COM 1.20
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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Macintosh
|
|||
|
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---------
|
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|
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BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software
|
|||
|
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Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
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|
|||
|
|
FBBS 0.91 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3
|
|||
|
|
Hermes 1.5 Tabby 2.2 AreaFix 1.6
|
|||
|
|
Mansion 7.15 Compact Pro 1.30
|
|||
|
|
Precision Sys. 0.95b* Eventmeister 1.0
|
|||
|
|
Red Ryder Host 2.1 Export 3.21
|
|||
|
|
TeleFinder Import 3.2
|
|||
|
|
Host 2.12T10 LHARC 0.41
|
|||
|
|
MacArc 0.04
|
|||
|
|
Mantissa 3.21
|
|||
|
|
Point System Mehitable 2.0
|
|||
|
|
Software OriginatorII 2.0
|
|||
|
|
Name Version PreStamp 3.2
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- StuffIt Classic 1.6
|
|||
|
|
Copernicus 1.0 SunDial 3.2
|
|||
|
|
CounterPoint 1.09 TExport 1.92
|
|||
|
|
Timestamp 1.6
|
|||
|
|
TImport 1.92
|
|||
|
|
Tset 1.3
|
|||
|
|
TSort 1.0
|
|||
|
|
UNZIP 1.02c
|
|||
|
|
Zenith 1.5
|
|||
|
|
Zip Extract 0.10
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
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|
|||
|
|
Amiga
|
|||
|
|
-----
|
|||
|
|
|
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|
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software
|
|||
|
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
|||
|
|
Falcon CBBS 0.45 BinkleyTerm 1.00 AmigArc 0.23
|
|||
|
|
Paragon 2.082+ TrapDoor 1.50 AReceipt 1.5
|
|||
|
|
TransAmiga 1.07 WelMat 0.44 booz 1.01
|
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|
|
FidoNews 8-31 Page 33 5 Aug 1991
|
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ChameleonEdit 0.10
|
|||
|
|
ConfMail 1.12
|
|||
|
|
ElectricHerald 1.66
|
|||
|
|
LHARC 1.30
|
|||
|
|
Login 0.18
|
|||
|
|
MessageFilter 1.52
|
|||
|
|
oMMM 1.49b
|
|||
|
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ParseLst 1.64
|
|||
|
|
PkAX 1.00
|
|||
|
|
PolyxAmy 2.02
|
|||
|
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RMB 1.30
|
|||
|
|
Roof 44.03
|
|||
|
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RoboWriter 1.02
|
|||
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Rsh 4.06
|
|||
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Skyparse 2.30
|
|||
|
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Tick 0.75
|
|||
|
|
TrapList 1.12
|
|||
|
|
UNZIP 1.31
|
|||
|
|
Yuck! 1.61
|
|||
|
|
Zippy (Unzip) 1.25
|
|||
|
|
Zoo 2.01
|
|||
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
Atari ST/TT
|
|||
|
|
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|
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|
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|
|||
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|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
|
FIDOdoor/ST 2.4.0* BinkleyTerm 2.40l BINK2TB 1.00
|
|||
|
|
GS Point 0.61 The BOX 1.20 ComScan 1.02
|
|||
|
|
LED ST 1.00 ConfMail 4.03
|
|||
|
|
MSGED 1.96s EchoFix 1.20
|
|||
|
|
FastPack 1.20
|
|||
|
|
FDrenum 2.4.0*
|
|||
|
|
Compression FiFo 2.1n*
|
|||
|
|
Utilities Import 1.14
|
|||
|
|
Name Version oMMM 1.40
|
|||
|
|
-------------------- Pack 1.00
|
|||
|
|
ARC 6.02 Parselst 1.30
|
|||
|
|
LHARC 1.32* sTICK/Hatch 5.50
|
|||
|
|
PKZip 1.10 TB2BINK 1.00
|
|||
|
|
STZIP 0.80* Trenum 0.10
|
|||
|
|
Xlist 1.12
|
|||
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|
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|
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Archimedes
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ARCbbs 1.44 BinkleyTerm 2.03 ARC 1.03
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 34 5 Aug 1991
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BatchPacker 1.00
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Parselst 1.30
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Key: + - Netmail Capable (Does Not require Additional Mailer Software)
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* - Recently Updated Version
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Utility Authors: Please help keep this list up to date by reporting all
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new versions to 1:103/950.
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Note: It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which
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verge on necessity. If you want it updated in the next FidoNews,
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get it to me by Thursday evening.
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--David French, 1:103/950
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FidoNews 8-31 Page 35 5 Aug 1991
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
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Editors: Tom Jennings, Tim Pozar
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Periello
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Special thanks to Ken Kaplan, 1:100/22, aka Fido #22
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"FidoNews" BBS
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FidoNet 1:1/1
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Internet fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org
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BBS (415)-863-2739 (9600 HST/V32)
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(Postal Service mailing address)
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FidoNews
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Box 77731
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San Francisco
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CA 94107 USA
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Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international
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amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual
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articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The
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contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
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rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
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of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews.
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FidoNews is copyright 1991 Fido Software. All rights reserved.
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Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes
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only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews (we're
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easy).
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OBTAINING COPIES: FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from
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the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from
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various sites in the FidoNet and via uucp. PRINTED COPIES mailed
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may be obtained from Fido Software for $5.00US each PostPaid First
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Class within North America, or $7.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail.
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(US funds drawn upon a US bank only.)
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Periodic subscriptions are not available at this time; if enough
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people request it I will implement it.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
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from 1:1/1 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco
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CA 94107, USA and are used with permission.
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