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Volume 6, Number 39 25 September 1989
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Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello
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Editors Emeritii: Dale Lovell
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Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
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Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
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submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
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standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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node 1:1/1. 1:1/1 is a Continuous Mail system, available for
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network mail 24 hours a day.
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Copyright 1989 by the International FidoNet Association. All
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rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
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noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
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at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
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Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
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Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and
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are used with permission.
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We don't necessarily agree with the contents of every article
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published here. Most of these materials are unsolicited. No
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article submitted by a FidoNet SysOp will be rejected if it is
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properly attributed and legally acceptable. We will publish
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every responsible submission received.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Article submission guidelines ............................ 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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Let's give Mike Ratledge a hand .......................... 2
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NCLM Sweepstakes 2 ....................................... 4
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Farewell to a Network and State .......................... 5
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Minutes of IFNA Board of Directors meeting ............... 6
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3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 17
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4. LATEST VERSIONS .......................................... 18
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 18
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5. NOTICES .................................................. 21
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And more!
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FidoNews 6-39 Page 1 25 Sep 1989
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EDITORIAL
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I'm trying to sort of stand to the side and let things just
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happen, but I'm afraid that I need to make a point of order.
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I'm really pleased with the way submissions to FidoNews have
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picked up this year. However, in the past several weeks, I have
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gotten articles which are really huge (over 60K in length),
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formatted so far out of spec that I couldn't do anything with
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them, and with all kinds of really strange file names. My guess
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is that not too many people have ARTSPEC.DOC or aren't reading
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it, so I'll give you some guidelines here. Please pay attention,
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I don't promise I'll fix ANY broken article!
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Please, give me flat ASCII text, no more than 65 characters on a
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line, no tabs and no control characters. Also, try to keep the
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length down. 4,000 characters is a pretty good length. I will
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print longer stuff, but once you get past 16,000 characters, you
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invite being overlooked, as MAKENEWS won't automatically insert
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the story and I don't like having to override its limits. Use
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any file name you want, but use .ART as the extension (if you
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send me archives I may not find them for weeks!), and if you are
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a prolific writer, please use a different file name every time.
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This last thing recently caused Phil Buonomo some embarrassment.
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His articles have tended to have the file name AAA.ART. Recently
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I went looking for stuff I hadn't caught for publication and
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found files AAA.AR0 and AAA.AR1 (BinkleyTerm keeps dupes by
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changing the extension). I published them. Because of the way
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things had progressed since they first had arrived here, those
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articles no longer made complete sense.
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I'm sorry that this happened. Please help me keep this from
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happening again. Stick to these simple guidelines and it will
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make life easier for both me and you.
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FidoNews 6-39 Page 2 25 Sep 1989
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ARTICLES
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I captured this from the SYSOP echo this morning. I think it's
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worth publishing, so here it is:
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[Copied from the SYSOP echo]
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From: Amnon Nissan
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To: All
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Subj: Mike Ratledge
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Guys, how about taking a break a second, and and attending to
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this:
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This is a message I posted in R18 sysop echo, I thought it would
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be a good idea to post it here, so more can help.
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From: Amnon Nissan
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To: All
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Subj: Mike Ratledge
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I just spoke with Mike guys, and the situation is real sad.
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Mike's both houses are completely gone, foundation and all.
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Their cloths, personal belongings, computers, EVERYTHING. Those
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of us who were fortunate to visit him at his house on the water
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front, the forest is all gone, everything is completely flat he
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says.
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I would like to suggest that we start some kind of a fund to help
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him. Do we have someone who can head this effort ?
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Mike is not sure if his insurance will pay for anything, he will
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know tommorow.
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This is real sad, but at least they are alive he said. They
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spent the nite at his dad's house, 50 miles away.
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I forgot to get his address, or a phone number where he can be
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found (got sort of emotional there, and didn't think). But he
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did say he is going to call other sysops in the region. If you
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get this befor he calls, or if you have the number or address,
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get/post them.
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Mike sounded real hurt when he called. So a word of support is
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the least we can do, but hopefully more.
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Amnon
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FidoNews 6-39 Page 3 25 Sep 1989
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OK, if you don't know what I was talking about, Mike Ratledge
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lives in Charlston SC, and I am sure he will not name his first
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born Hugo.
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Ed Melone, 360/0 - 360/1 volonteered to take care of the
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specifics, and open a bank account for the fund.
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If there is ANYTHING that you can do, please do it. This is --
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unfortunatly -- one way we can show we do care about each other,
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and put all of our differences aside.
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I will keep you posted as to any developements, but at the
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meantime, you can get in touch with Ed, at 360/0.
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Shalom Y'all
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Amnon Nissan, REC18
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FidoNews 6-39 Page 4 25 Sep 1989
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Butch Witherspoon
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Fido 1:288/525
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National Computer Learning Month
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Computer Benefits Sweepstakes
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1 Grand Pize: One individual, drawn at random from the qualifying
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entries, will win a computer.
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10 Second Prizes: Ten individuals, drawn at random from the
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qualifying entries, will win software programs.
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Description: Computers and software are valuable tools for
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assisting us in our lives. This sweepstakes is designed to
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encourage people to think about the ways computers and software
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can be used as tools to assist in other activities, rather than
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as ends in themselves.
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Rules: To qualify to enter the sweepstakes, you must submit the
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following. On n 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of paper, list the following
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doen the left side of the paper: research tool, productivity
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tool, learning tool, entertainment tool. Next to each one of
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these, briefly describe one way that computers and software can
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assist you as this type of tool in activities in your life.
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Attach this paper tpo the contest entry form.
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Limit: One entry per individual.
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For more information contact Butch Witherspoon, Fido 1:288/525 or
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write to NCLM Echo, P.O. Box 8045, Granite City, IL 62040-8045.
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FidoNews 6-39 Page 5 25 Sep 1989
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North Dakota says good-bye.
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Well I learned about a week ago that my friend and partner
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in crime is getting reassigned from Minot AFB ND to the
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warmer climes of March AFB in California. And with his
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departure the only network and ONLY nodes in the state will
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disappear from our nodelist. Tom Manship went to the Dakotas
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with an idea to setup and operate a friendly and interesting
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BBS called the Buddist BBS. He succeeded so well that his
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BBS was named twice as one of the Top 10 in the country by
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PC Mag. Along the way he introduced a lot of people,
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including a me, to this neat little network called Fidonet.
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Why he persisted in the face of the great apathy and sparse
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population(600,000) of the state.....amazes even me. But he
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did and he was influential behind the scenes, even though he
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will strongly object to the idea, of changing the way some
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people look at this hobby. Maybe it has to do with his
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Buddist beliefs?
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I guess the reason I am lauding such praise upon the past
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net coordinator of 281 is that after a little experience and
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exposure to the network.....I am beginning to see the wisdom
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of his laid-back easy going style and "don't get mad"
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approach. If we could only just see that same spirit
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throughout the rest of the net. Wow!! You would attract a
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greater following and net expansion. We might even become a
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collective force to be dealt with when it comes to
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organizations that legislate/regulate/manufacture items
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vital to our hobby.
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In closing I hope that Tom Manship returns to us when he
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gets setup in California and keeps our feet on the ground
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and gently reminds us that sometimes there is "no answer"
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.....just questions......and friends with which to discuss
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them with.
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Minutes of IFNA Board of Directors meeting
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August 25-27 1989, FidoCon, San Jose, CA
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*** Friday, August 25 ***
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Convened at 17:25
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Roll Call
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Divisional
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10 Bill Bird (alternate for Courtney Harris)
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12 Matt Whelen (alternate for Bill Bolten)
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13 Thom Henderson (alternate for Irene)
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15 Jim Cannell
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17 Steve Barnes
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At large
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Don Daniels
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Mort Sternheim
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Tony Davis for Ste
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Steve Jordon
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Phil Buonomo for Dave Melnick
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Matt Whelan
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Discussion on whether to allow one person to cast more than one
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vote, because Matt Whelan is a director and is also representing
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Bill Bolton.
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Motion by Mort Sternheim to accept minutes from Feb meeting -
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approved unanimously Accepted minutes from February Board meeting
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but the board was not impressed with the time it took to get them
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published.
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Statement of new business agenda items (just stating the agenda)
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- Appoint committe to look at BIX question
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- OPCN nodelist
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- Funding IC
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- FidoNews Editor resignation
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- Bill Bolton - the name of IFNA
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- Don Daniels - IFNA FidoNet policy statment
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Don Daniels to have open forum for questions from membership
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at the general BOD meeting on Sunday.
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Motion of thanks to FidoCon 89 organizers by Don Daniels
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passed unanimously
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Motion to express appreciation to Fidonews editor by Don Daniels
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passed unanimously
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Don Daniels read Report of Nominations by Dave Melnick
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Don Daniels read election results for new board of directors
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- 63 total ballots
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- discussed how to break tie for Division 19
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.discussed how many real vacancies in board
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.let one fill a vacancy?
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.flip a coin?
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Motion by Thom Henderson to flip coin to solve tie for r19
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director discussion - how to solve tie (Bod decides?)
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-amended to accept report not as written and modify that we
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resolve the tie
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-Don D. told us one of the two got many at large votes that
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might influence our decision
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amend report with amendment that r19 tie be resolved by using
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total number of votes as director and other at large
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amend report by using total votes (region and atlarge) to
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determine tie in division 19. passed all except Don Daniels
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who abstained
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Motion by Thom Henderson to accept report as amended - passed
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unanimously except Don Daniels, who abstained.
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Kris Vietch won by amendment of report.
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Discussed how to get new board together Saturday.
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- Thom Henderson suggested getting them together tonite after
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banquet
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Recessed at 18:30 until after banquet
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*** Saturday, August 26 ***
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Convened at 22:10
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Argument about proxies - should we allow them or not?
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- we have nothing in bylaws to disallow them
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- State laws don't disallow it
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Thom Henderson made motion to allow proxies in board meetings
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without limitation on how many they can actually do.
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- 10 yah, 1 nay, 1 abstain.
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Phil Buonomo made motion to thank Mort Sternheim.
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- unanimously approved
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Don Daniels explains duties of the officers
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- chairmain chairs the meetings, names the heads of committees,
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can't make motions, can't make vote unless there is a tie,
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recommends removals
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- president runs the organization, breaks ties in exec committee
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- VP - acts for president, responsible for anuual meeting
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- VPTC
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- secretary/treasurer - self explanitory
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- 5 people will be on executive committee - 4 will be elected
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Phil Buonomo made motion to start nominations for new officers
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- unanimous
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Nominations
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Chairman - Phil Buonomo nominated Thom Henderson
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Tony Davis nominated John Knox
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Mort Sternheim made motion to close nominations for Chairmain
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- passed
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Bill Bird asked nominees how they intend to get bod members to
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do their jobs.
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Tony Davis observed that Thom Henderson might cause flak
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amongst FidoNet - however John Knox is a temporary alternate
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that is not a real member of the board
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Thom Henderson was elected chairman.
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10:55 - recessed for 5 minute break
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11:05 - resumed session
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Opened nominations for President
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- no nominations were received
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- The decision was made that the position needed more thought
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Motion to table President nominations.
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- seconded
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- open for discussion.
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- Got off track and discussed when to actually vote for
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president and where to have public meeting and when
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- Passed motion to table nominations for President.
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Opened nominations for Vice President
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- no nominations were received
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- Same reason as for president
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- Passed motion to table nominations for VP
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VPTC
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Don D. Nominated Bill Bolton - seconded
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Phil B. Nominated Ben Baker - seconded
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Motion to close VPTC nominations - passed
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Discussion of qualifications of 2 nominees
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Fabian made motion to contact Bill Bolton and Ben Baker and table
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election until tomorrow
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- passed
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Tony Davis nominated Kris Veitch for secretary
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- no other nominations
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- Motion to table nominations - passed
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- Kris wins by acclimation
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Tony Davis nominated Kris Veitch for treasurer
|
|||
|
- no other nominations
|
|||
|
- Motion to table nominations - passed
|
|||
|
- Kris wins by acclimation
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Discussion of new business to put on agenda
|
|||
|
- discussion was tabled and attendees were told to give WRITTEN
|
|||
|
motions to the secretary.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Tony Davis suggested a new committee to look into internet
|
|||
|
communications and recommended John Roberts as chairman.
|
|||
|
Discussion was tabled and motion will be added to the agenda for
|
|||
|
Sunday.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Discussion to approach Tom Jennings to discuss the matter with
|
|||
|
his removal of the license to FidoNet. Thom made the suggestion.
|
|||
|
The decision was made to approach him during Saturday's sessions.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Motion to recess - passed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Meeting recessed at 12:05 until Saturday at 19:30.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
*** Saturday, August 26 ***
|
|||
|
Convened at 20:55
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Roll call
|
|||
|
Bill Bird for Courtney Harris
|
|||
|
John Lamb for John Rafuse
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan for Bill Bolton
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon
|
|||
|
Peter Stern for Ivan Schaeffel
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 10 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Steve Barnes for Kathi Krockett
|
|||
|
Rob Lerman for Kris Vietch
|
|||
|
Don Daniels
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Mark Hawthorne
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson for Irene Henderson
|
|||
|
Steve Jordon
|
|||
|
Joe Keenan for Bob Rudolph
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Dave Melnick
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson for Jim Hruby
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Burt Juda
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon for Karl Schinke
|
|||
|
Tony Davis for John Roberts
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell for Scott Miller
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell for Andrew Adler
|
|||
|
Mort Sternheim for Ken Kaplan
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan elected to divison 3 vacancy
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings elected for at large vacancy
|
|||
|
Henk Wevers absent
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Meeting opened to IFNA members
|
|||
|
ground rules - observers cannot interfere
|
|||
|
directors have 1st priv on chairs, bathroom
|
|||
|
may limit number of peple
|
|||
|
reserve right to convert to closed meeting
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
motion to fill vacancies - div 3 and at large
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan nominated for division 3
|
|||
|
motion to close nominations
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan by acclimation
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan appoints Randy Bush as alternate
|
|||
|
- accepted at-large membership application from Randy Bush
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
At-large director nominations
|
|||
|
Tony Davis nominated
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings nominated
|
|||
|
- accepted at-large membership application from Tom Jennings
|
|||
|
- Tom Jennings elected
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nominations for President
|
|||
|
- Les Kooyman
|
|||
|
- Fabian Gordon
|
|||
|
nominations closed, open for discussion
|
|||
|
Don Daniels asked for qualifications from candidates
|
|||
|
- listen to qualifications
|
|||
|
move to close discussion, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
Les Kooyman elected President
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Nominations for Vice President
|
|||
|
- Steve Jordan nominated Fabian Gordon, Don Daniels seconded
|
|||
|
move to close nominations, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 11 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
motion to elect by acclamation, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
21:50 - 5 minute recess
|
|||
|
22:00 - meeting reconvened
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Discussion of nominations for VPTC from yesterday's nominations
|
|||
|
listened to Jim Cannell about Bill Bolton
|
|||
|
heard question from Bob Hartman about Bill's accomplishments
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon move to close discussion, seconded, closed
|
|||
|
Bill Bolton elected as VPTC
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
move to appoint Matt Whelan to tell Bill Bolton that he is the
|
|||
|
VPTC, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Reports from officers
|
|||
|
---------------------
|
|||
|
President - no report
|
|||
|
VP - no report
|
|||
|
VPTC - report is not here - table report until after next break
|
|||
|
Secretary - report not here - table report until break
|
|||
|
Treasurer - report not here - table report until break
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Committee reports
|
|||
|
-----------------
|
|||
|
exec commitee - no report
|
|||
|
a&f - no report now - tabled until report gets here
|
|||
|
nominations/elections - already accepted by outgoing board
|
|||
|
bylaws - report tabled until break
|
|||
|
tech standards
|
|||
|
publications - (Thom for Irene) FidoNews editor has indicated he
|
|||
|
desires to resign
|
|||
|
Randy Bush move to note that no report from pub committee,
|
|||
|
seconded, passed
|
|||
|
intl affairs - table report until after next break
|
|||
|
membership services - no report
|
|||
|
membership database - Randy Bush move that there is no report
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
motion to untable bylaws report, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
Don Daniels presented bylaws committee report
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
divisional director reports
|
|||
|
---------------------------
|
|||
|
10 bill bird - no report
|
|||
|
11 no report
|
|||
|
12 table report because not here
|
|||
|
13 no report
|
|||
|
14 no report
|
|||
|
15 no report
|
|||
|
16 no report
|
|||
|
17 no report
|
|||
|
18 no report
|
|||
|
19 no report
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 12 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2 no report
|
|||
|
3 no report
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
other committee reports
|
|||
|
-----------------------
|
|||
|
ethics - has been document submitted but no report
|
|||
|
public affairs - no report
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
OLD BUSINESS
|
|||
|
------------
|
|||
|
Processing of the trademark and associated legal bill
|
|||
|
- discussion of validity of the bill
|
|||
|
- motion as amended to refer to exec comm
|
|||
|
- second-passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
22:40 recessed
|
|||
|
23:05 - reconvened
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Secretary reported Peter Stern representing Ivan Schaeffel has to
|
|||
|
leave the meeting. Ivan Schaeffel has appointed Vince Perriello
|
|||
|
as proxy.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Retable report from VPTC becaues it still cannot be found
|
|||
|
no retable on secretary report - no report
|
|||
|
motion to table treasurers report, second, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Randy Bush moved board passed to exec comm that we have no
|
|||
|
balance sheet or income statement and is extremely high priority
|
|||
|
item, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Randy Bush moves to table international affairs report, seconded,
|
|||
|
passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
NEW BUSINESS
|
|||
|
------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Call for written additions
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Executive committeee appointments
|
|||
|
4 members to be appointed, everyone casts 4 votes
|
|||
|
nominations:
|
|||
|
- Don Daniels
|
|||
|
- Karl Schenke
|
|||
|
- Matt Whelan
|
|||
|
- Kris Veitch
|
|||
|
Joe Keenan move to close nominations.
|
|||
|
Four nominees elected by acclaimation
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 13 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Randy Bush - move to have treasurer deal with local FidoCon 89
|
|||
|
chair to pay to have meeting room tomorrow for board meeting
|
|||
|
second by Vince Perriello, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon - move to revise the IFNA nodelist copyright notice
|
|||
|
to read, "Copyright (year), International FidoNet Association,
|
|||
|
Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED"
|
|||
|
Randy Bush - Amend to executive committe is empowered to
|
|||
|
consult legal advice to modify copyright notice on
|
|||
|
nodelist, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - Amend to require that it be done by October 1,
|
|||
|
seconded, passed
|
|||
|
Motion passed as amended
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - motion to entertain proposals/decide on site of
|
|||
|
FidoCon 90 Seconded, rejected.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
00:00 - Mort Sternheim had to leave meeting, appointed Bob
|
|||
|
Hartman as proxy
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - motions to amend IFNA bylaws
|
|||
|
major frigging discussion
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson - question is can we consider that question?
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo read bylaws to clarify if we can do this or not
|
|||
|
Point of order - can the board consider this motion?
|
|||
|
Chairman calls for a vote on the point of order.
|
|||
|
"Disagree with the point of order that we do not
|
|||
|
have the right to consider amendments which have not
|
|||
|
been submitted to the board by bylaws comittee."
|
|||
|
nay 11 yay 6 abstain 6
|
|||
|
I.e. yes the board may consider this question
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
00:40 - recessed for 5 minutes
|
|||
|
00:50 - reconvened
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Motion to amend bylaws, seconded, discussion
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell moved to recess until 07:00am Sunday, seconded,
|
|||
|
passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
02:15 - recess until 7:00 Sunday in romm 922
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
*** Sunday, August 27 ***
|
|||
|
Convened at 08:00
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Roll call
|
|||
|
Bill Bird for Courtney Harris
|
|||
|
John Lamb for John Rafuse
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 14 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan for Bill Bolton
|
|||
|
Randy Bush for Matt Whelan
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon
|
|||
|
Peeter Stern for Ivan Schaeffel
|
|||
|
Steve Barnes for Kathi Krockett
|
|||
|
Rob Lerman for Kris Veitch
|
|||
|
Don Daniels
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Mark Hawthorne
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson for Irene Henderson
|
|||
|
Steve Jordon
|
|||
|
Joe Keenan for Bob Rudolph
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Dave Melnick
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson for Jim Hruby
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Burt Juda
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon for Karl Schinke
|
|||
|
Tony Davis for John Roberts
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell for Scott Miller
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell for Andrew Adler
|
|||
|
Bob Hartman for Ken Kaplan
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings
|
|||
|
Henk Wevers absent
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Don Daniels - motion to request immmediate discontinuance of
|
|||
|
violation of nodelist copyright, seconded, passed.
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush moves we make it unanimous, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Don Daniels - motion to allow OPCN nodelist
|
|||
|
- Failed for lack of a second
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
8:15 - Joe Keenan arrives
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Kris Veitch - motion to fund the IC
|
|||
|
- Vince Perriello seconds
|
|||
|
- Jim Cannell moves to table, seconded, tabled
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Reopen discusssion on motion to entertain ammendments to bylaws
|
|||
|
- restated and clarified motion
|
|||
|
- discussion again
|
|||
|
- author of motion has asked for comments on rewording
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush asked for straw poll
|
|||
|
- reworded, if in nodelist, at time of election, sysop gets
|
|||
|
vote for at-large
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
08:50 - recessed
|
|||
|
09:00 - reconvened
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Motion to amend the bylaws
|
|||
|
yay 16 nay 5 abstain 2
|
|||
|
The bylaws are amended
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 15 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - motion to call for a referendum
|
|||
|
Seconded, discussion
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush, nodes should respond to this vote to prove this
|
|||
|
node works
|
|||
|
- the intent of the yellow sheet was agreed upon
|
|||
|
motion to recess until 10:00 downstairs, seconded, recessed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
9:50 - recess
|
|||
|
10:20 - General meeting
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Roll call
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Bill Bird for Courtney Harris
|
|||
|
John Lamb for John Rafuse
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan for Bill Bolton
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon
|
|||
|
Peter Stern for Ivan Schaeffel
|
|||
|
Steve Barnes for Kathi Krockett
|
|||
|
Rob Lerman for Kris Veitch
|
|||
|
Don Daniels
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Mark Hawthorne
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson for Irene Henderson
|
|||
|
Steve Jordon
|
|||
|
Joe Keenan for Bob Rudolph
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Dave Melnick
|
|||
|
Thom Henderson for Jim Hruby
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo for Burt Juda
|
|||
|
Fabian Gordon for Karl Schinke
|
|||
|
John Knox for John Roberts
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell for Scott Miller
|
|||
|
Jim Cannell for Andrew Adler
|
|||
|
Bob Hartman for Ken Kaplan
|
|||
|
Randy Bush for Matt Whelan
|
|||
|
Tom Jennings
|
|||
|
Henk Wevers absent
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - move to table motion under consideration and
|
|||
|
appoint special committee, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
Chairman appoints Phil Buonomo and Don Daniels to special
|
|||
|
committee
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Randy Bush - move that board ask current FidoNews editor to
|
|||
|
remain in office, seconded, passed. Vince Perriello accepts.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - move to accept policy 4
|
|||
|
Failed for lack of a second
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Bill Bolton - motion to rename IFNA
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 16 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
- Matt Whelan seconds
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush moves to table, seconded, tabled
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Bill Bolton - motion on affirmation of interests of IFNA
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush seconds
|
|||
|
- Don Daniels moves to pass on to committee, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Don Daniels - motion regarding Bix and echomail, seconded,
|
|||
|
rejected. Noted for record, Bob Hartman and Fabian Gordon
|
|||
|
abstained.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Phil Buonomo - final motion for bylaws
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush seconded
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush moved to remove item about VPTC/IC, Jim Cannell
|
|||
|
seconds, amendment accepted by author.
|
|||
|
- Don Daniels moved to remove "at no charge", Randy Bush
|
|||
|
seconds, passed.
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush moved to amend dates on voting to Dec 1 for
|
|||
|
original referendum, Feb 1 for policy/bylaws referendum.
|
|||
|
Seconded, passed
|
|||
|
- Motion accepted as amended.
|
|||
|
- Randy Bush moves to make it unanimouse, seconded, passed.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Motion to adjourn, seconded, passed
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Metting adjourned at 11:45.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 17 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: David Pyke of 120/148.0
|
|||
|
To: Everyone of 1/1.0
|
|||
|
Subj: the finding of a source
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I am unable to get ahold of the source for the game Omega due to
|
|||
|
the lack of easynet access. WOuld any one having the latest
|
|||
|
version of the source please send me where i can get it. I wish
|
|||
|
to install it on the VAX i have use of.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: Scott Johnson of 260/332.0
|
|||
|
To: Sysop of 1/1.0
|
|||
|
Subj: Showpartner, and Hyperpad
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
I'm not sure just how many people are out there that own a
|
|||
|
product called Showpartner, and Hyperpad. They are both products
|
|||
|
of a company out of Syracuse, NY called Brightbill/Roberts. Their
|
|||
|
customer support BBS has been a whole lot less than anticipated,
|
|||
|
and expected. In response to this, I am setting up areas in my
|
|||
|
BBS to handle this situation. I am not an employee of
|
|||
|
Brightbill/Roberts, nor am I a user of these particular products.
|
|||
|
I am a supporter of any new company, and a supporter of Customer
|
|||
|
SUPPORT. In this respect, I feel that this BBS should, and will
|
|||
|
support Showpartner, and Hyperpad if only to handle the influx of
|
|||
|
questions and ideas, as well as files, and programs. My BBS is
|
|||
|
called "The Last Word!!!" at 1200 baud, 8/n/1, and the phone
|
|||
|
number is (315) 476-3604. All hyperpad and Showpartner users
|
|||
|
will receive instant validation if they fill out the
|
|||
|
Showpartner/Hyperpad questionnaire.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Scott Johnson
|
|||
|
Syracuse, NY 13203
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
From: Adam Plotkin 269/101.0
|
|||
|
To: EVERYONE of 1/1.0
|
|||
|
Subj: Fido Mailers
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
do you know of any fido mailers or BBS programs for the Apple
|
|||
|
IIGS or II Series? Your help is appreciated. Also, if someone
|
|||
|
is writing one and you could put me in touch with him, I'd love
|
|||
|
it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-39 Page 18 25 Sep 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
LATEST VERSIONS
|
|||
|
=================================================================
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Latest Software Versions
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
MS-DOS Systems
|
|||
|
--------------
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Bulletin Board Software
|
|||
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Fido 12n+ Phoenix 1.3 TBBS 2.1
|
|||
|
Lynx 1.30 QuickBBS 2.04 TComm/TCommNet 3.4
|
|||
|
Kitten 2.15* RBBS 17.2A TPBoard 5.2
|
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BinkleyTerm 2.30* EditNL 4.00 ARC 6.02
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D'Bridge 1.21 MakeNL 2.12 ARCmail 2.0
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Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ConfMail 4.00
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FrontDoor 2.0 Prune 1.40 EMM 2.02
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PRENM 1.47 XlatList 2.90 GROUP 2.15*
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SEAdog 4.51A XlaxDiff 2.32 LHARC 1.13
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XlaxNode 2.32 MSG 3.3
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MSGED 1.99
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PK[UN]ZIP 1.01*
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QSORT 4.03*
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TCOMMail 2.2
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TMail 1.11
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TPBNetEd 3.2
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XRS 3.0*
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Red Ryder Host v2.1b3 Tabby 2.1 MacArc 0.04
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Mansion 7.12 ArcMac 1.3
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WWIV (Mac) 3.0 StuffIt 1.51
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TImport 1.331
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TExport 1.32
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Timestamp 1.6
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Timestart 1.1
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Tally 1.1
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Mehitabel 1.2
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Archie 1.60
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Jennifer 0.25b2g
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Numberizer 1.5c
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MessageEdit 1.0
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Mantissa 1.0
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PreStamp 2.01
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R.PreStamp 2.01
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Saphire 2.1t
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Epistle II 1.01
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Import 2.52
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Export 2.54
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Sundial 2.1
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AreaFix 1.1
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Probe 0.052
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Terminator 1.1
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Amiga
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Name Version Name Version Name Version
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Paragon 1.00+* BinkleyTerm 1.50 ConfMail 1.10*
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ChameleonEdit 0.10
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RMB 1.30
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Atari ST
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Star-Net 2.00 BinkleyTerm 1.03g ConfMail 1.00
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EchoDoor 0.11 ParseList 1.30
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GS Point 0.61 ARC 5.21
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FoReM Door 1.00 TurboArc 1.1
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LHARC 0.40
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PKUNZIP 1.00
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MSGED 1.96S
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SRENUM 6.2
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OMMM 1.30
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Timestop 1.00
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+ Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
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* Recently changed
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Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
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reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
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all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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5 Oct 1989
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20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
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11 Oct 1989
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First International Modula-2 Conference at Bled, Yugoslavia
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hosting Niklaus Wirth and the British Standards Institution.
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Contact 1:106/8422 for more information.
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11 Nov 1989
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A new area code forms in northern Illinois at 12:01 am.
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Chicago proper will remain area code 312; suburban areas
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formerly served with that code will become area code 708.
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23 Nov 1989
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26th Anniversary of "Dr. Who" - and still going strong
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30 Dec 1989
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Telephone area codes (5, 3 and 0) are abolished in Hong Kong
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If you have something which you would like to see on this
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calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
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REPORTS
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Don Daniels
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1:107/210
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Report from Bylaws and Rules Committee
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89/09/21
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During the recent Board of Directors meeting held August 25-27
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in San Jose during FidoCon, the Board of Directors enacted
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changes to the bylaws of IFNA as follows:
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1f) is changed to read:
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"At-Large Member. Anyone listed in the FidoNet nodelist who
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is a system operator in good standing of a PUBLIC ACCESS
|
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NODE at the date of publication of the ballot, is
|
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automatically entitled to one vote in the election. Dues
|
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for At-Large Members are set at $0."
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[The intent of this amendment is to insure that all public
|
|||
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access sysops in the FidoNet nodelist in good standing are
|
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automatically granted a vote in an election, without having
|
|||
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to apply for membership or pay a 'processing fee'.]
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2. is changed to read:
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"Applications for regular, associate, commercial, or life
|
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membership shall be submitted to the..."
|
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9. is changed from "written report" to "report".
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10. is changed from "Elections Committee shall solicit such
|
|||
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petitions" to "Elections Committee should solicit such
|
|||
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petitions".
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Add "Failure to meet the deadline will not invalidate an
|
|||
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election."
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11. Strike "Annual Membership Meeting", change to "the
|
|||
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election". Strike "send to every voting member, and..."
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|
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election."
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12. Remove the last sentence, "Said time must be at least
|
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forty (40) days from the date the ballots were sent to the
|
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membership."
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13. Change to read, "The Nominations and Elections Committee
|
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|
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shall be responsible for the receipt, tabulation and
|
|||
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verification of all BALLOTS cast before the close of
|
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voting."
|
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|
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18. Change the word "mailed" to be "sent".
|
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|
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The complete, up-to-date set of the IFNA Articles of Association
|
|||
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and Bylaws may be obtained from 1:107/210 or 1:107/211 by file
|
|||
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requesting BYLAWS.ARC (which is dated 89/09/21).
|
|||
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|
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Thanks to Phil Buonomo for preparing most of this report!
|
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OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
|
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|
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Thom Henderson 1:107/1015 Chairman of the Board
|
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Les Kooyman 1:204/501 President
|
|||
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Fabian Gordon 1:107/323 Vice President
|
|||
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Bill Bolton 3:3/0 Vice President-Technical Coordinator
|
|||
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Kris Veitch 1:147/30 Secretary
|
|||
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Kris Veitch 1:147/30 Treasurer
|
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|
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|
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IFNA COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRS
|
|||
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|
|||
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Administration and Finance *
|
|||
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Board of Directors (CoB) Thom Henderson 1:107/1015
|
|||
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By-laws and Rules *
|
|||
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Executive Committee (Pres) Les Kooyman 1:204/501
|
|||
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International Affairs *
|
|||
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Membership Services *
|
|||
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Nominations and Elections *
|
|||
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Public Affairs *
|
|||
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Publications Irene Henderson 1:107/9
|
|||
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Technical Standards Rick Moore 1:115/333
|
|||
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Ethics *
|
|||
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Security & Individual Rights *
|
|||
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Grievance Committee *
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
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* Position waiting to be appointed/confirmed by IFNA Chairman
|
|||
|
of the Board of Directors, Thom Henderson.
|
|||
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|
|||
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|
|||
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IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS
|
|||
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|||
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DIVISION AT-LARGE
|
|||
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10 Courtney Harris 1:102/732 Don Daniels 1:107/210
|
|||
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11 John Rafuse 1:12/700 Phil Buonomo 1:107/583
|
|||
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12 Bill Bolton 3:711/403 Mark Hawthorne 1:107/238
|
|||
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13 Fabian Gordon 1:107/323 Tom Jennings 1:125/111
|
|||
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14 Ken Kaplan 1:100/22 Irene Henderson 1:107/509
|
|||
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15 Scott Miller 1:128/12 Steve Jordan 1:206/2871
|
|||
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16 Ivan Schaffel 1:141/390 Robert Rudolph 1:261/628
|
|||
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17 Kathi Crockett 1:134/30 Dave Melnik 1:107/233
|
|||
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18 Andrew Adler 1:135/47 Jim Hruby 1:107/536
|
|||
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19 Kris Veitch 1:147/30 Burt Juda 1:107/528
|
|||
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2 Henk Wevers 2:500/1 Karl Schinke 1:107/516
|
|||
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3 Matt Whelan 3:54/99 John Roberts 1:147/14
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Membership for the International FidoNet Association
|
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|
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Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
|
|||
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pays a specified annual membership fee. IFNA serves the
|
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international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to
|
|||
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increase worldwide communications.
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|
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Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
|
|||
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US Funds to:
|
|||
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|
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|
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|
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USA
|
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|
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Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to
|
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insure the future of FidoNet.
|
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|
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Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
|
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and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
|
|||
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membership in January 1987. The second elected Board of Directors
|
|||
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was filled in August 1988. The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
|
|||
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established on FidoNet to assist the Board. We welcome your
|
|||
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input to this Conference.
|
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