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Volume 6, Number 31 31 July 1989
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Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello
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Editors Emeritii: Dale Lovell
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Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
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Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
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submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
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standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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node 1:1/1. 1:1/1 is a Continuous Mail system, available for
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network mail 24 hours a day.
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Copyright 1989 by the International FidoNet Association. All
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rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
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noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
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at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
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Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
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Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and
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are used with permission.
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We don't necessarily agree with the contents of every article
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published here. Most of these materials are unsolicited. No
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article will be rejected which is properly attributed and legally
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acceptable. We will publish every responsible submission
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received.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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I Quit, effective sometime soon .......................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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More Tales of Horror from the FidoNet *C's ............... 4
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Net 134 and Policy 4 ..................................... 8
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3. LATEST VERSIONS .......................................... 13
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 13
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 15
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The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 15
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 1 31 Jul 1989
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EDITORIAL
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Hi there.
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Still reading this thing? Thanks. I appreciate it.
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Is there anyone who'd like to be the Editor? It's burning up a
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lot of my time. More than I can afford at this point. And it's
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getting to be harder and harder to psyche myself into doing the
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work anyway.
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If you're interested, send me netmail. Try to include
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qualifications, etc. I'll forward them along to the people
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who'll have to decide on my successor.
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I won't leave the position until a replacement is ready. But I'd
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like to start the ball rolling. (Ooooops, I just remembered
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something. I never told PubComm. Rick, Irene -- I quit,
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effective as soon as you have a replacement)
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On another note: I have received a couple of nice articles that
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were published in "real" publications already. I'd love to
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publish them, but I can't unless I have permission from the owner
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of the articles. Please don't send me any of that stuff unless
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permission has been granted, or you can arrange for me to easily
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get it.
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Hey, thanks again.
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 2 31 Jul 1989
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ARTICLES
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Les Kooyman, 1:204/501
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FidoCon Committee Co-Chairperson
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JOHN DVORAK TO BE KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT FIDOCON '89
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The dates for FidoCon '89 are fast approaching (August 24th
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through the 27th)! If you haven't yet made your hotel or confer-
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ence reservations, you should do so as soon as possible to avoid
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increased charges. Although the official deadline for hotel
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registration has passed, I have it on good authority that follow-
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ing the registration procedure for hotel registrations (which
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includes calling the hotel directly rather than calling the
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national reservation number) will likely still get you the hotel
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discount.
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Now, here's the rest of the conference news:
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Friday night, August 25th, will be the Banquet and Keynote Ad-
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dress. This year's Keynote Speaker is Mr. John Dvorak, columnist
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for PC magazine and well-known observer of the computer industry.
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Tickets to the banquet will be available separately from Confer-
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ence Registration to allow people to attend only the Banquet if
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they wish.
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Registration night is Thursday, August 24. Friday and Saturday
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offer two full days of seminars and workshops, including:
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o Tim Pozar chairing a panel describing UFGATE, an interface
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between the FidoNet network and the Usenet network.
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o Vince Perriello and Bob Hartman discussing BinkleyTerm,
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their freely-available mailer program .
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o Bob Hartman on FidoNet mail processing by the BIX (BYTE
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magazine) online service.
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o Phil Becker, the author of TBBS BBS software, on the
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unique structure and organization of that system.
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o Tom Jennings, the author of Fido (the original network-
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capable BBS) on Fido, routing of mail, and other matters of
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interest.
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o Chuck Forsberg, noted author of ZMODEM, YMODEM, and other
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file-transfer protocols, on the subject of error-free file trans-
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fer protocols.
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o Mort Sternheim chairing a panel on the future of FidoNet
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and the International FidoNet Association (IFNA).
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o Chris Irwin discussing D'Bridge and Joaquim Homrighausen
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discussing Front Door, two other fine mailer front-end programs.
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o Rick Heming talking about Wildcat BBS software, and the
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interface from Wildcat to FidoNet.
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o A representative from US Robotics, a maker of modems, on
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high speed modem technology.
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 3 31 Jul 1989
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o A panel discussion chaired by Randy Bush and Christian
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Stalberg on International FidoNetting (FidoNet spans many nations
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and continents).
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o A panel discussion concerning Democracy in FidoNet, sure
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to be a "hot" topic.
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Dates and times of these sessions will be announced shortly in a
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future edition of FidoNews. Stay tuned.
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Conference registrations are $60 prior to August 1st (extended
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from July 15th), $75 thereafter. Banquet tickets are $30 each.
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Both may be ordered from:
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Silicon Valley FidoCon '89
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PO Box 390770
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Mountain View, CA 94039
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You may also netmail your conference and/or banquet reservations
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to 1:1/89, although you need to follow up an email reservation
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with hardcopy through the US Mail within three days, including
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payment in full. Remember we are accepting VISA and MASTERCARD
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this year.
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Rooms at the Holiday Inn may be reserved by calling the Hotel at
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408-998-0400, and mentioning that you are with FidoCon. Rooms
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are $60.00 per night double occupancy. Additional rollaways are
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available for $10.00 per night. The official FidoCon '89
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airline is American Airlines. You can receive either a 5%
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reduction in supersaver fares or a 40% reduction in the regu-
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lar day coach fare. San Jose is an American Airlines hub with
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direct flights to most major cities. When making reserva-
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tions, you must call American's reservation number, 800-433-1790,
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and reference Star number S0289VM. The official FidoCon '89
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automobile rental agency is Alamo Rent a Car. Rates are as
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described below. All rates include automatic transmission, air
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conditioning, radio, and unlimited mileage. Economy car (exam-
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ple: Geo Metro) $32 day/$109 week. Compact car (example: Chevy
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Cavalier) $34 day/$120 week. Midsize car (example: Pontiac Grand
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Am) $36 day/$135 week. Standard car (example: Buick Regal) $38
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day/$165 week. Luxury car (example: Buick LeSabre) $40 day/$239
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week. To take advantage of this rate, call Alamo at 1-800-732-
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3232 and request group ID number 13594 and rate code G8.
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 4 31 Jul 1989
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More Tales of Horror from the FidoNet *C's
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by Phil Buonomo 1:107/583, 7:520/583, 9:807/1
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(Whew! Made it another week! Guess the RC's don't read
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FidoNews, else I'd have been tossed out long ago!)
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I recently received a file, containing messages I thought the
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sysops of FidoNet should see. Read on, Macduff!
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--- File Begins
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Mike Lester, As a result of your message to me on April 11, 1989
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stating that you have put a "file on hold for me" to discourage
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my calling your system, you have been deemed to be in violation
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of FidoNet Policy3.Doc, to wit: Excessively Annoying Behavior.
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Distributing, or threatening to distribute a 'Mail Bomb', is a
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very serious offense.
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As a result, you are being ex-communicated from FidoNet. Your
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name, your BBS name, and your node numbers are being removed from
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the Nodelist.
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You have the right to appeal my decision. If you decide to do so,
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your first course of appeal would be to our Region Coordinator,
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Justin Marquez, at 1:106/100. If you find no relief there, you
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may contact our Zone Coordinator, David Dodell, at 1:114/15.
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Bruce Bodger
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Net Coordinator, Net 170
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======================== end of msg from NC ====================
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> As a result of your message to me on April 11, 1989
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> stating that you have put
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> a "file on hold for me" to discourage my calling your
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> system, you have been
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> deemed to be in violation of FidoNet Policy3.Doc, to
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> wit: Excessively
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> Annoying Behavior. Distributing, or threatening to
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> distribute a 'Mail Bomb',
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> is a very serious offense.
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I never said it was a "MAIL BOMB" you are overreacting. I simply
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said, if you wanted to "FORCE FEED" me an echo I did NOT want,
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that I was going to put my rather LARGE file list on hold for you
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to pick up. fair is fair. Since you decided to change your
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position on the "FORCE FEEDING" of an echo I did not want, I did
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not put any files on hold for you.
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> You have the right to appeal my decision. If you decide
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> to do so, your first
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> course of appeal would be to our Region Coordinator,
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> Justin Marquez, at
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> 1:106/100. If you find no relief there, you may contact
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> our Zone Coordinator,
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> David Dodell, at 1:114/15.
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believe me, I am contesting this action...
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Mike
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==================== end of my responce =======================
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cc: Bruce Bodger
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Justin Marquez
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Mike, I'm sorry to inform you that I have reviewed materials sent
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to me by your NC, Bruce and the RC, Justin concerning your
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excommunication. I have not seen that they have done anything
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outside of their jurisdiction under POLICY3 and therefore, have
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no reason to overturn their decision.
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David
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==================== end of the ZC's responce ==================
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This is the end of the line, no more appeal.... now after
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thinking about it a bit, I decided to make a rebuttle: I know it
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would do no good, but i sent it to a few key people.
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quote from national sysop:
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> RG: Tell me, just how many nodes do you know of that have been
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> RG: excommunicated on the basis of a single offense? Indeed,
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> RG: how many nodes do you know of that have been excommuni-
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> RG: cated, period?
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end quote
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I was the NC for Tulsa, Ok fidonet 170 for more than 2 years,
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I got out the nodelist/diffs on Fridays, and the fidonews
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EVERY week on time. (read this with "tongue in cheek") Here
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is the procedure to get a longtime fidonet NC out in 12 steps:
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1) First get the NC(me) to route ALL messages for the local net
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through your node as NEC.
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2) Then, using a message editor that dont leave footprints (FD
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editor), make changes to the messages the NC posts locally, and
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make sure some if not most are a degrading nature in responce to
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simple questions.
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3) Quietly, forward "copys" to the RC, explaining that you (the
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NEC) think the NC is "over the edge" and politlely ask what he
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can do about it. A voice phone call helps here, if your GOOD at
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manipulating people. A few of your friends making complaints also
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helps, no matter how bogus they may be. also, if a node wont file
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an "official" complaint make one up in his name and send it in. (
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eg. Joe Savard. )
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4) The RC removes the NC for "cause" and appoints the NEC the NEW
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NC.
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5) Now your in "CONTROL". Next, start having "secret" monthly
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meetings where not even wifes are allowed in the room where
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fidonet business is conducted. ( You should have heard some of
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the wives outside when this happened.)
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6) When the old NC(me) finds out about what happened and the
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reason why, he just shrugs it off and says ok, "you leave me
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alone, and I will leave you alone", Now just wait about 2 weeks
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and be silent.
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7) Un-rest rules the net, because of the changes that have
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happened. "Un-rest" is an understatement, it almost instantly
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polarized the net. Now its time for some "heavy handed rules".
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ie: You MUST attend the local fidonet meetings. (only heresay)
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You MUST get all your echos from the NC/NEC. You can only have 40
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echos MAX. If you post in the local sysop echo, it must be a
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message that pertains to ALL. Messages of a one to one nature are
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NOT allowed. ect... The penaltys are "you WILL be removed from
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the nodelist" A threat of having NET 170 removed by the RC also
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comes in, if the nodes do not "Cooperate".
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8) Now, dump on the old NC (me) an echo NOT wanted/requested
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without warning or even asking to have the area set up. (100+
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messages) ( I had to manually delete them from my netmail area.
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) ( as in k23<cr> k24<cr> ect... I run an OPUS BBS )
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9) Now comes the part that got ME ex-communicated. When I
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complain saying to discontinue sending the echo, simply send a
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message to the sysop (me) stateing "I'M THE NC, and IF YOU WISH
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TO REMAIN IN FIDONET, YOU WILL RECIEVE THIS ECHO.
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10) When the ex-NC(me) says "ok, fine, you SEND to ME an echo
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that I dont wish to have, I will place a file on HOLD for you to
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pick up every time you call. (note: the FILE was my files
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listing, the one you would get if you requested FILES from my
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system. Not a mail bomb, or virused program. also, I intended on
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recieving the echomail to a passthrough area to no one,
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effectivly deleting the messages.)
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11) The new NC then quietly removes the ex-NC(me) from the
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nodelist for that week because he is "annoyed". no warning, no
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nothing was ever sent to me about this.
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12) When I complain again, pass it along to the RC, who then
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passes it along to David Dodell, who ultimatly, finds that "No
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one has done anything outside of policy."
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It happened to me, and when final, 15 sysops, left fidonet 170
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Now its time for a NEW RULE for the local net. Rule: You can't be
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in fidonet 170 if you allow Mike Lester ex-NC of Fidonet 170 on
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your system as a user. (Just ask the sysop of 7:771/208.0 if this
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is true or not.) The bottom line is this, I was ex-communicated
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from fidonet simply for saying I was going to "put a FILE on
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hold". The FILE was NEVER sent, since the new NC removed me from
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the nodelist. He never called back either, after I sent him the
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message I was going to put the file on hold for him. So, I never
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actually DID anything wrong, but i was ex-communicated for it
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anyway. I even ASKED the RC for a REGION number, and it was
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refused, by saying that there was already an existing net in
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Tulsa, and I HAD to be in it or not at all.
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Mike Lester
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Galaxy Computer HST
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Multiline Opus 1.10
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7:771/0 (alternet) 1-918-835-8933 (9600 hst)
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7:771/1 (alternet)
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7:771/2 (alternet) 1-918-836-6336 (1200 hayes)
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11:771/0 (OPCN) 1-918-835-8933 (9600 hst)
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11:771/1 (OPCN)
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11:771/2 (OPCN) 1-918-835-8933 (1200 hayes)
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So this guy, Mike Lester, gets excommunicated from FidoNet. His
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network gets so upset they 'vote out' the NC appointed by RC19,
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who then declares the vote 'illegal' and throws it out. Most of
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the network then quits FidoNet.
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So we have another case where an RC 'kills' a network for the
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'good' of FidoNet.
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Are you starting to see the danger of living under Policy4 now?
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This story would be bad enough, but now we learn that after these
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guys join AlterNet, the FidoNet NC and RC start trying to take
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over the echomail conferences the 'excommunicated' nodes are
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contributing to! Funny thing is, I thought that FidoNet echomail
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policy stated that conferences belonged to the MODERATORS!
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Well, as a moderator of a number of conferences, I give a warning
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to any *C that might feel bound to keep ANYONE following MY rules
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in ANY of MY conferences from posting:
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KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS OFF MY CONFERENCES, OR YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF
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THE SUBJECT OF A POLICY COMPLAINT SO FAST IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD
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SWIM!
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Clear enough? Good.
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 8 31 Jul 1989
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Net 134 and Policy 4
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I was asked to submit the following for the beginning of July
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but was unable to do so at that time. With my apologies here it
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is now.
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The first section is a resolution we voted on. The second is a
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sober look at P4 and its implementation which it was suggested I
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submit with the resolution. For the record, there was not one
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person in net 134 who expressed any reservations about including
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the second part.
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Charles Ford (134/19)
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Net 134 Resolution Re. P4
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A. Net 134 likes FidoNet and wishes to remain in it.
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B. The majority of Net 134 does not accept Policy4 on the basis
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of its implementation.
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C. Net 134 is willing to work on a committee to formulate a
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democratic policy.
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STATEMENT OF POSITION REGARDING POLICY 4
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"It's done. It's finished. Now let's fix it." is the
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rallying cry I hear from above these days. I wish I could accept
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things that easily. "What is the problem? P4 is a lot better
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than Policy 3, isn't it?" some say.
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The truth of the matter is that Policy 4 simply does not exist
|
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in Fidonet. This is not a statement of position or opinion, it is
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really the way it is.
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Right off I will say that there are major problems with Policy
|
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4 both in its content and the way it was declared to be in force.
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This is no longer a choice between P3 and P4. It goes deeper
|
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|
than that. Fidonet has grown extraordinarily since 1984. The
|
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|
original policy documents were probably fine for a small group
|
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|
that largely knew each other. If memory serves me correctly,
|
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|
there were about 1700 nodes when I first started to get involved
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with Fidonet. At the time I joined, it was after agreeing to
|
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abide by P3. P3 had its problems but its terms were those I
|
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accepted coming into Fidonet. That is true for the vast majority
|
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|
of the rest of Fidonet sysops as well.
|
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|
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|
An agreement is an agreement. You don't complain about it
|
|||
|
after the fact. Now along comes P4. What's the problem? It
|
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|
unilaterally breaks the agreement between the front-line sysop
|
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|
and the Fidonet administration. None of us agreed to that coming
|
|||
|
in. The agreement has been broken and those who broke it want to
|
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|
force on a new one. If an agreement has been broken by one party
|
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|
the other party is no longer bound by it. Hence the authority
|
|||
|
fomerly entrusted to the other party no longer holds. I didn't
|
|||
|
break the agreement. The vast majority of Fidonet sysops did not
|
|||
|
break the agreement. The *Cs broke it. That is statement of
|
|||
|
fact. THE ISSUE IS NO LONGER P3 vs P4. IT IS RATHER THAT THERE
|
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|
FidoNews 6-31 Page 9 31 Jul 1989
|
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|
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|
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|
IS NO LONGER A BINDING POLICY ON NODE SYSOPS AT ALL.
|
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|
|
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|
"But there was no mechanism for policy change," is the
|
|||
|
argument foisted on us. True, but then the honorable and proper
|
|||
|
thing to do is to work out a mutually agreeable solution to the
|
|||
|
problem or at least some sort of consensus. This was not done.
|
|||
|
P4 was pushed through with the trench-sysop having no say.
|
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|
|
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|
What was the rush? Why is it that ammendents to give the
|
|||
|
nodes a say were verboten before P4 was pushed through but now
|
|||
|
are to be given serious consideration for some future policy
|
|||
|
document? I do not personally know any *C above my own NC -- as
|
|||
|
is the case for most of us. We are not really in a position to
|
|||
|
judge their character or motivations but we can judge their
|
|||
|
behavior. When the salesman says, "Trust me. This is a great
|
|||
|
product," and it turns out to be made of junk, I don't buy from
|
|||
|
him again. The policy that the *Cs have proclaimed is just like
|
|||
|
that. How can there be trust after such a betrayal?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
"Charles, you're such an extremist," some of you might be
|
|||
|
thinking. Am I really? Let's get down to specifics.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1. The voting procedure.
|
|||
|
- The IC did the collecting counting and announcing of the
|
|||
|
vote results. To date he has not allowed independent
|
|||
|
verification. Fidonet policy affects his life and future
|
|||
|
plans directly. Now he might be the most upright and
|
|||
|
honest man in the world but IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT WE
|
|||
|
SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO BELIEVE THAT THE VOTE WAS COLLECTED,
|
|||
|
THE BALLOTS COUNTED, AND THE RESULTS ANNOUNCED ALL BY THE
|
|||
|
SAME PERSON, A PERSON WITH A BIG STAKE IN THE OUTCOME, AND
|
|||
|
THIS WAS DONE WITH NO FIDDLING WHATSOEVER WHEN THERE IS NO
|
|||
|
WAY TO CONFIRM OR DISPROVE HIS ANNOUNCEMENT. If votes are
|
|||
|
to have any credibility at all, the ballots must be
|
|||
|
collected and counted by someone without an immediate
|
|||
|
stake in the process and there must be more than one
|
|||
|
person involved to ensure that the process is honest. Were
|
|||
|
we given true and honest results for the vote on P4, such
|
|||
|
as it was? Does anyone but the IC know for sure? How? I
|
|||
|
don't see how any of us can know.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2. P4 itself - The reason it had to be passed in such a hurry
|
|||
|
was that it brought a new measure of democracy
|
|||
|
and accountability to Fidonet. But does it?
|
|||
|
Let's have a closer look.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a) IC selection and accountability.
|
|||
|
- Only the Zone Coordinators (four people right now) can
|
|||
|
select or replace the IC. The IC can only come from
|
|||
|
their ranks. Only the IC can extend or interpret
|
|||
|
policy on specific issues. The ZCs can overrule him
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-31 Page 10 31 Jul 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
on a specific interpretation or extension, however.
|
|||
|
The IC collects and counts the ballots in any case.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1.2.7
|
|||
|
6.1
|
|||
|
7.2
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
This is largely just formalizes how things are. The
|
|||
|
IC could not function without the support of the ZCs.
|
|||
|
The position is still basically a life position
|
|||
|
without review and those at the very top still appoint
|
|||
|
him. In one respect it strengthens the IC position in
|
|||
|
that criticism of the IC now must go through the ZCs.
|
|||
|
Before that it must go through the RCs. The fact that
|
|||
|
the complete voting process is controlled in all
|
|||
|
aspects by the IC and only the IC means that there can
|
|||
|
be no confidence in the announced results.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
b) ZC and RC selection and accountability.
|
|||
|
- This is a circular, cosy relationship where the 49
|
|||
|
people involved are accountable only to each other
|
|||
|
while controlling the communication activities of over
|
|||
|
6000 others, based on the current node list.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
1.2.4
|
|||
|
1.2.5
|
|||
|
1.2.8
|
|||
|
8.7.1
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
c) NC selection and accountability
|
|||
|
- Selection and removal is completely at the disgression
|
|||
|
of the RC
|
|||
|
- Accountability is only to the RC
|
|||
|
- NC activities affect the nodes almost exclusively
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
4.1
|
|||
|
5.7
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
d) Nodes
|
|||
|
- Entry is basically for the asking. After that all
|
|||
|
activities are subject to the *Cs dictates.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
e) Policy changes
|
|||
|
- These can only be instituted by a majority of the RCs
|
|||
|
asking for a vote by the NCs on a new policy drafted
|
|||
|
exclusively by the RCs. The voting block represents
|
|||
|
about 5% of those in Fidonet since the NCs do not have
|
|||
|
to vote in accordance with the wishes of their net.
|
|||
|
In light of the fact that an NC can be removed at the
|
|||
|
discretion of his RC there is a strong pressure to
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-31 Page 11 31 Jul 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
vote in accordance with the policy. Reduced to simple
|
|||
|
terms, that means that 24 people develop a policy that
|
|||
|
about 5% of the people affected get to vote on and of
|
|||
|
that 5% any number could be subject to coercion.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
The problems with having a representative result
|
|||
|
announced are further compounded because the voting
|
|||
|
process is designed in such a way that the integrity
|
|||
|
of the process cannot be relied on. Indeed it is so
|
|||
|
deficient that it is obvious it has been given no
|
|||
|
serious consideration at all. To put it more bluntly,
|
|||
|
the figures and results could be made up out of the
|
|||
|
ICs head and nobody could question them.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
8.1
|
|||
|
8.3
|
|||
|
8.4
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Summary:
|
|||
|
1) The current Fidonet node sysops made an agreement to
|
|||
|
abide by Policy 3 when they joined Fidonet. This
|
|||
|
agreement has been repudiated by the *C structure with
|
|||
|
NO NODE LEVEL SAY IN THE PROCESS.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
a) Since the agreement has been broken by the one
|
|||
|
party, the other is no longer bound by it.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
b) If one agreement is broken, what guarantee is
|
|||
|
there that any others will be honored?
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2) P4, if it were valid, REMOVES the right of the nodes
|
|||
|
to a say in a process that primarily affects them.
|
|||
|
This IS a loss of rights based on the agreement
|
|||
|
outlined above.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
3) P4 actually consolidates power over what may soon be
|
|||
|
the world's largest personal computer communication
|
|||
|
network into the hands of a very few under a pretense
|
|||
|
of some democratic process and accountability. The
|
|||
|
reality is that there is nothing to ensure the
|
|||
|
integrity of either the voting process or the
|
|||
|
accountability. This consolidation has no basis under
|
|||
|
it other than that 49 people have said that this is
|
|||
|
how the thousands in Fidonet shall function.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Final Comments
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
P4 has no moral and, most likely, no legal force. Acceptance
|
|||
|
by the nodes means that they are giving up the rights they
|
|||
|
once had to some effective say in the process.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-31 Page 12 31 Jul 1989
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Policy 4 is not only zero improvement, it involves grave
|
|||
|
losses in rights to the owners of Fidonet -- the sysops.
|
|||
|
Policy 4 takes ownership of the network from you. And you
|
|||
|
just might let it happen.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
|||
|
FidoNews 6-31 Page 13 31 Jul 1989
|
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|
|
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|
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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Latest Software Versions
|
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|
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|
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|
|||
|
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|
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|
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Fido 12n+* Phoenix 1.3 TBBS 2.1
|
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|
Lynx 1.30 QuickBBS 2.03 TComm/TCommNet 3.4
|
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|
Opus 1.03b+ RBBS 17.2A TPBoard 5.2
|
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|
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|
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Network Node List Other
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Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
|
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|
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BinkleyTerm 2.20 EditNL 4.00 ARC 6.02
|
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D'Bridge 1.21* MakeNL 2.12 ARCmail 2.0
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Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ConfMail 4.00
|
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FrontDoor 2.0 Prune 1.40 EMM 2.02
|
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PRENM 1.47 XlatList 2.90 GROUP 2.10
|
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SEAdog 4.51A* XlaxDiff 2.32 LHARC 1.13*
|
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XlaxNode 2.32 MSG 3.3
|
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MSGED 1.99
|
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PK[UN]ZIP 0.92*
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QM 1.0*
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TCOMMail 2.2
|
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TMail 1.11
|
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TPBNetEd 3.2
|
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UFGATE 1.03
|
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XRS 2.3*
|
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ZmailQ 1.09*
|
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|
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Apple Macintosh
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
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|
|
|||
|
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
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|
|
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Red Ryder Host v2.1b3 Tabby 2.0* MacArc 0.03
|
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Mansion 7.0 ArcMac 1.3
|
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StuffIt 1.51
|
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TImport 1.0
|
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TExport 1.0
|
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Timestamp 1.6
|
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Tset 1.0.2
|
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 14 31 Jul 1989
|
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|
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|
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Timestart 1.1
|
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Tally 1.1
|
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Mehitabel 1.2
|
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Archie 1.60
|
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Numberizer 1.5c
|
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MessageEdit 1.0
|
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|
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|
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Commodore Amiga
|
|||
|
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|
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|
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Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
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|
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Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
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|
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Paragon 1.00+* BinkleyTerm 1.50 ConfMail 1.00
|
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ChameleonEdit 0.10
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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+ Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
|
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* Recently changed
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|
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Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
|
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reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
|
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all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 15 31 Jul 1989
|
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|
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=================================================================
|
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|
NOTICES
|
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=================================================================
|
|||
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|
|||
|
The Interrupt Stack
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
2 Aug 1989
|
|||
|
Start of Galactic Hacker Party in Amsterdam, Holland. Contact
|
|||
|
Rop Gonggrijp at 2:280/1 for details.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
24 Aug 1989
|
|||
|
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
24 Aug 1989
|
|||
|
FidoCon '89 starts at the Holiday Inn in San Jose,
|
|||
|
California. Trade show, seminars, etc. Contact 1:1/89
|
|||
|
for info.
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
5 Oct 1989
|
|||
|
20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
11 Oct 1989
|
|||
|
First International Modula-2 Conference at Bled, Yugoslavia
|
|||
|
hosting Niklaus Wirth and the British Standards Institution.
|
|||
|
Contact 1:106/8422 for more information.
|
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|
|
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|
11 Nov 1989
|
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|
A new area code forms in northern Illinois at 12:01 am.
|
|||
|
Chicago proper will remain area code 312; suburban areas
|
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|
formerly served with that code will become area code 708.
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FidoNews 6-31 Page 16 31 Jul 1989
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|
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OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Mort Sternheim 1:321/109 Chairman of the Board
|
|||
|
Bob Rudolph 1:261/628 President
|
|||
|
Matt Whelan 3:3/1 Vice President
|
|||
|
Bill Bolton 3:711/403 Vice President-Technical Coordinator
|
|||
|
Linda Grennan 1:147/1 Secretary
|
|||
|
Kris Veitch 1:147/30 Treasurer
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
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|
IFNA COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRS
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Administration and Finance Mark Grennan 1:147/1
|
|||
|
Board of Directors Mort Sternheim 1:321/109
|
|||
|
Bylaws Don Daniels 1:107/210
|
|||
|
Ethics Vic Hill 1:147/4
|
|||
|
Executive Committee Bob Rudolph 1:261/628
|
|||
|
International Affairs Rob Gonsalves 2:500/1
|
|||
|
Membership Services David Drexler 1:147/47
|
|||
|
Nominations & Elections David Melnick 1:107/233
|
|||
|
Public Affairs David Drexler 1:147/47
|
|||
|
Publications Rick Siegel 1:107/27
|
|||
|
Security & Individual Rights Jim Cannell 1:143/21
|
|||
|
Technical Standards Rick Moore 1:115/333
|
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|
|||
|
|
|||
|
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|
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|
|||
|
DIVISION AT-LARGE
|
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10 Courtney Harris 1:102/732 Don Daniels 1:107/210
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11 Bill Allbritten 1:11/301 Mort Sternheim 1:321/109
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12 Bill Bolton 3:711/403 Mark Grennan 1:147/1
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13 Irene Henderson 1:107/9 (vacant)
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14 Ken Kaplan 1:100/22 Ted Polczyinski 1:154/5
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15 Scott Miller 1:128/12 Matt Whelan 3:3/1
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The World's First / \
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BBS Network /|oo \
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* FidoNet * (_| /_)
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FidoCon '89 in San Jose, California _`@/_ \ _
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at The Holiday Inn Park Plaza | | \ \\
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August 24-27, 1989 | (*) | \ ))
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R E G I S T R A T I O N F O R M
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Name: _______________________________________________________
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Phone Numbers:
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Day: ________________________________________________________
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Evening: ____________________________________________________
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Data: _______________________________________________________
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Zone:Net/
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Node.Point: ___________________________________________________
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Your BBS Name: ________________________________________________
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BBS Software: _____________________ Mailer: ___________________
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Modem Brand: _____________________ Speed: ____________________
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At what hotel will you be staying: ____________________________
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Do you want an in room point? (Holiday Inn only) ______________
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Are you a Sysop? _____________
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Are you an IFNA Member? ______
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Additional Guests: __________
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(not attending conferences)
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Do you have any special requirements? (Sign Language translation,
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handicapped, etc.)
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______________________________________________________
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Comments: ______________________________________________________
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______________________________________________________
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Costs How Many? Cost
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Conference fee $60 .................... ________ _______
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($75.00 after July 15)
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Friday Banquet $30.00 ................ ________ _______
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Totals ................................ ________ _______
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You may pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card. Please send
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no cash. All monies must be in U.S. Funds. Checks should be
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made out to: "FidoCon '89"
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This form should be completed and mailed to:
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Silicon Valley FidoCon '89
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PO Box 390770
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Mountain View, CA 94039
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You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/89 for
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processing. Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
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number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number. US Mail
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confirmation is required within 72 hours to confirm your
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registration.
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If you are paying by credit card, please include the following
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information. For your own security, do not route any message
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with your credit card number on it. Crash it directly to 1:1/89.
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Master Card _______ Visa ________
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Credit Card Number _____________________________________________
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Expiration Date ________________________________________________
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Signature ______________________________________________________
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No credit card registrations will be accepted without a valid
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signature.
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Rooms at the Holiday Inn may be reserved by calling the Hotel at
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408-998-0400, and mentioning that you are with FidoCon. Rooms
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are $60.00 per night double occupancy. Additional rollaways are
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available for $10.00 per night. To obtain these rates you must
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register before July 15.
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The official FidoCon '89 airline is American Airlines. You can
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receive either a 5% reduction in supersaver fares or a 40%
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reduction in the regular day coach fare. San Jose is an American
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Airlines hub with direct flights to most major cities. When
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making reservations, you must call American's reservation number,
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800-433-1790, and reference Star number S0289VM.
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The official FidoCon '89 automobile rental agency is Alamo Rent a
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Car. Rates are as described below. All rates include automatic
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transmission, air conditioning, radio, and unlimited mileage.
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Economy car (example: Geo Metro) $32 day/$109 week.
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Compact car (example: Chevy Cavalier) $34 day/$120 week.
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Midsize car (example: Pontiac Grand Am) $36 day/$135 week.
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Standard car (example: Buick Regal) $38 day/$165 week.
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Luxury car (example: Buick LeSabre) $40 day/$239 week.
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To take advantage of this rate, call Alamo at 1-800-327-9633 and
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request the convention rate. Mention FidoCon '89, the location
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and dates.
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The World's First / \
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BBS Network /|oo \
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* FidoNet * (_| /_)
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_`@/_ \ _
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Membership for the International FidoNet Association
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Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
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pays a specified annual membership fee. IFNA serves the
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international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to
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increase worldwide communications.
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Member Name _______________________________ Date _______________
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Address _________________________________________________________
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City ____________________________________________________________
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State ________________________________ Zip _____________________
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Country _________________________________________________________
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Home Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
|
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Work Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
|
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Zone:Net/Node Number ____________________________________________
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BBS Name ________________________________________________________
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BBS Phone Number ________________________________________________
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Baud Rates Supported ____________________________________________
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Board Restrictions ______________________________________________
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Your Special Interests __________________________________________
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_________________________________________________________________
|
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_________________________________________________________________
|
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In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________
|
|||
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_________________________________________________________________
|
|||
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_________________________________________________________________
|
|||
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Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
|
|||
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US Funds to:
|
|||
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International FidoNet Association
|
|||
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PO Box 41143
|
|||
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St Louis, Missouri 63141
|
|||
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USA
|
|||
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|
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Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to
|
|||
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insure the future of FidoNet.
|
|||
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|
|||
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Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
|
|||
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and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
|
|||
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membership in January 1987. The second elected Board of Directors
|
|||
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was filled in August 1988. The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
|
|||
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established on FidoNet to assist the Board. We welcome your
|
|||
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input to this Conference.
|
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